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Hetman
05-05-2004, 08:40
It is almost unknown but during the battle at Vienna 1683 not only christian but also muslim were fighting each other.

Some cavalry units in the Polish army consisted of Lithuanian Tatars
who fought agains their Crimean 'cousins'.

Have You ever read about it - I mean Austrian, Hungarian or Turkish sources.

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meravelha
05-05-2004, 23:09
Well, it wouldn't surprise me.

Did you know that the siege gave rise to TWO forms of pastry?
Yes the croissant
AND also the bagel which was originally stirrup-shaped in honour of the arrival of the Polish cavalry.
Mouzafphaerre
05-06-2004, 00:12
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Not to forget Cappucino. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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Hetman
05-07-2004, 09:40
Quote[/b] (meravelha @ May 05 2004,17:09)]Well, it wouldn't surprise me.

Did you know that the siege gave rise to TWO forms of pastry?
Yes the croissant
AND also the bagel which was originally stirrup-shaped in honour of the arrival of the Polish cavalry.
No I didn't .

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Cebei
05-07-2004, 13:58
Yeah Crimeans caused the doom of the Ottomans in the siege. They abandoned a strategically important bridge on the Don river (I guess) which they were supposed to protect and thus the whole Polish army went to relieve Vienna.
Hetman
05-09-2004, 11:48
Cebei

I like Your post describing several Ottoman unit types ( and not only)
in the MTW timeframe.

I'm going to make XVI-XVII century mod ( Alchemist Lab) and still need units and more info.
Can You help when it comes to the Ottomans ?

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Cebei
05-10-2004, 05:38
Quote[/b] ]Cebei

I like Your post describing several Ottoman unit types ( and not only)
in the MTW timeframe.

I'm going to make XVI-XVII century mod ( Alchemist Lab) and still need units and more info.
Can You help when it comes to the Ottomans ?


SURE Link please?
Hetman
05-10-2004, 09:20
Quote[/b] (Cebei @ May 09 2004,23:38)]
Quote[/b] ]Cebei

I like Your post describing several Ottoman unit types ( and not only)
in the MTW timeframe.

I'm going to make XVI-XVII century mod ( Alchemist Lab) and still need units and more info.
Can You help when it comes to the Ottomans ?


SURE Link please?

Here is the link - http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....t=17867 (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=17867)

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Mouzafphaerre
05-10-2004, 10:03
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Hey guys, PM me your emails. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif

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Komutan
05-14-2004, 16:40
Actually there are many examples of muslims fighting by christians against muslims and christians fighting by muslims against christians.
In 1453 during the siege of Constantinople, there were a turkish prince and his men among the defenders.
And the ottomans used many times the armies of their christian vassals.
Mouzafphaerre
05-14-2004, 17:31
Quote[/b] (Komutan @ May 14 2004,18:40)]In 1453 during the siege of Constantinople, there were a turkish prince and his men among the defenders.
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Orhan and his men were baptised before the siege. They were Orthodox; Turk but no more Muslim. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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