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[DnC]
05-06-2004, 15:03
After having beaten the Scots out of Scotland and the English destroying the remainder scottish force in Northumbria, I invaded Wales to help out the English even more. I hit end turn and get the "Civil War has broken out..bladiebladiebla" message and choose to stay loyal to the rightfull heir to the throne. I backed out of Wales, seeing as two thirds of my army there backed the rebellious prince, and retreated those forces to Scotland. Finished off the few rebellious Irish in Scotland the next turn.

Then I started to look at my King's new V&V's and to my surprise see my newly risen to the throne Irish King has gotten a funny bug. Before becoming King he had the "Pride" vice and now after becoming the King of the Irish he also gotten the "Secret Pride" vice.

I have a screenshot... or twenty of this particular bug.
Just pressed the F2 button several times just to be sure I got it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
I don't have a space to upload it too though.

I have read about these weird kinda bugs, but never encountered one like this myself.

katank
05-06-2004, 18:37
well, it's a known bug that pride becomes secret pride instead of vice versa.

[DnC]
05-06-2004, 18:42
No, my King (he died just a couple of minutes ago btw) had "Pride" and "Secret Pride" at the same time ;)

Hadn't used him in battle though. The valour would have been pretty nice http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Xiphias
05-06-2004, 19:00
Yeah, I've had great builder and magnificant builder at the same time.

Al Qasim Hussein
05-06-2004, 20:01
As to the multiple builder Virtues, what happens there is simple. If your heir to the throne develops any of the 'Builder' catagories before assuming the Kingship, he maintains those while King, but can get them AGAIN and this time they affect the whole Kingdom and not just the province he's in.

As to the pride thing...weird.

Bhruic
05-06-2004, 20:34
That'd be a nice situation, if it weren't the King. The -3 to command rating is a bit of a killer, considering the King is always the general.

Well, actually, you can get around that with VI. What I do (assuming I have 17+ units) is make my King the first reinforcement, then I can have a really good general lead the attack, but still have my King in the fight. Especially good when you've got +6 valour, I imagine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Bh

katank
05-06-2004, 22:33
yep, that's what VI is good for.

the king's unit is also a nicely auto replenished one. Add to that the power of the heavy cav and jedi status, you have one heck of an overpowered monster to abuse http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

son of spam
05-06-2004, 23:45
Yeah, you don't even have to make your king a reinforcement. I find that taking your king out of the initial units and putting him back in works too. That's how I whupped the Italians http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif mmmm....head soup

[DnC]
05-07-2004, 07:27
Citaat[/b] (Bhruic @ Mei 06 2004,15:34)]That'd be a nice situation, if it weren't the King. The -3 to command rating is a bit of a killer, considering the King is always the general.

Well, actually, you can get around that with VI. What I do (assuming I have 17+ units) is make my King the first reinforcement, then I can have a really good general lead the attack, but still have my King in the fight. Especially good when you've got +6 valour, I imagine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Bh
I should have started a battle with him to see his valour and then reload to undo what I did with the testing.

I didn't attack because I was in a weakened state back then. I, by the way, had two Civil Wars close after eachother, which is a pain in the butt

Maybe I'll get another King like him in this campaign http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif