XVI -XVII mod

[Inal_the_Great]

Hey I am still searching for more titles posted some posibilities in Circassians section but anyway I actually wanted to ask how many you want?

Try to give me a number (yea I like working with numbers :dizzy2: :laugh4: )

1-2, 3-5, 10+, as much as I can? :inquisitive:

[beauchamp]

Awsome Screens!
Anyway.
In the early eras, the Persian armies were more cavalry then infantry, and used mainly horse archers and Kizilbash, Late/High eras, mostly Pikemen (trained western fashion, without shields, medium armored) and Musketeers, I think I sent a picture...
Cavalry still important, but not the mainstay, Abbas used his Ghulams to push back most of his enemies, and aparently were equipped and trained in western fashion. So more superior firepower then ottomans basically.

[beauchamp]

Im not finding any names besides Ghulam or Tofangchi (musketeer).
You might just want to use terms like Ghulam Tofangchi or Ghulam Pikemen, Ghulam Archers etc.

[cegorach]

Hey I am still searching for more titles posted some posibilities in Circassians section but anyway I actually wanted to ask how many you want?

Try to give me a number (yea I like working with numbers :dizzy2: :laugh4: )

1-2, 3-5, 10+, as much as I can? :inquisitive:

9 or 10 will be enough - the latest proposals are very good.

BTW this Prince of Princes - was that the title of the Circassian leader ???

Regards Cegorach :book:

[cegorach]

@Beauchamp

It is good enough.

So these Gulams were armed with maces, sabres and bows. They were still armoured, didn't they ?

I am coming back to Poland tomorrow and for some time I won't be able to post much or finish the mod itself, I need around one week to make everything look well...

Regards Cegorach :book:

[beauchamp]

Ghulams, maces sabers and bows
Kizilbash, Lances sabers and bows

[Inal_the_Great]

9 or 10 will be enough - the latest proposals are very good.

BTW this Prince of Princes - was that the title of the Circassian leader ???

Regards Cegorach :book:

Ok this will be probably a bit confusing for you since you have studied Polish history during this period.

Circassia is a united nation (mostly) but still chaotic compared to for example Ottomans or you guys:





There were times when a single prince (no kings in Circassian history except really really old times...) just ruled the entire Circassia and most of Caucasus but this titles story is basicly this:

People riding around: :charge:
Dueling: :duel:
arguing: :argue:
dancing: link at the bottom


:focus:

The strongest Prince has alot of power but his power is still chalanged by other powerful princes and Circassia because of this somewhat divided. In the end though, in time of Crisis (War) Circassians choose one prince and give him emergency powers; he suddenly becomes alot more powerful than anything you can find in the West (well not really) and he alone rules the country, leads the armies.

After the crisis is over sometimes this prince continues to rule for sometime (if he was really succesful) or immediatly loses all his power and becomes just like any other prince before.


http://www.upload2.com/?cmd=_viewer&file=482df57eb72322c8eae652ce0c2c9885.wmv&s=f4743

[Inal_the_Great]

In short:

The prince of princes title is usually gien in time of crisis to give a single prince absolute power.

Sorry lost focus up there...

Dont worry:
I will post (try) around 5 more titles so you pick the bests. :2thumbsup:

[beauchamp]

Breakthrough!
This info might be a bit late but I finally found a persian military title and more about Safavid military.

Abbas named his new Ghulam troops the Shah Savan or friends of the Shah. Also, aparently that the majority of the original persian army was composed of Kizilbash cavalry. They aparantly all fought as cavalry archers and were highly fanatical as shown during the battle of chaldiran when the Shah charged with his cavalry and killed thousands of turks before being blown away by artillery.

Also, ive been reading the Shahnemeh (so long) and have a book with Safavid prints depicting soldiery. Ill see if i can scan the pictures but one of them features a battle between two characters of the Shahnemeh in safavid fashion, the enemies are dressed like turks and the Iranians dressed in Kizilbash fashion.

Also, about the name of the faction. The term usually used is "Iran" which was the Islamic name given to Persia, but the Safavids were the decendents of the 7th Imam, and a Christian King of Trebizond (don't ask me how... :dizzy2: ) . So I don't know which is more proper to call them.

As to how I got my info Cegorach1? Moslty walking around St. Paul public libraries and doing a sh**load of reasearch online.

[cegorach]

- Inal the Great - according to what you are writing about the Prince of princes is still a good title for the faction leader, I can simply make ordinary princes more difficult to controll - small loyalty should help, this way it will be more possible to have some sort of a civil war, but will recreate the situation pretty well.

- Beauchamp

I thought so with this research - don't ask me how much I have spent for the books I was/am using...

Good information as usual.

I am thinking to add Abbas as an ordinary hero for Persia, but with small loyalty so possible to rebell - this way you will able to grasp the power with him in charge after a failed war, or a jihad ( I reintroduced Jihad for Persia and Egypt), especially if I give them one jihad to start with.

Yan traken already finished the persian Kizilbash cavalry - I even have screens, but no access to a computer I could use to post them - I will try on saturday - Poland here I come !!! :balloon2:

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[beauchamp]

Sweet!
I just went to the huge library downtown and found more books on persia and with them the military names I so coveted.

Qullar (cavalry)
Qurchis (Turkmen soldiers recruited from the Kizilbash tribes, royal guard)

so "Kizilbash Qullar" would be a Kizilbash Cavalryman,
but Qurchis stand alone, also just a plain "Qullar" would be a purley Ghulam cavalryman.

"Amir" would be either a governor or a commander, but also the suffix "...Bashi" works only for commanders

Mulla Bashi, the chief Mulla (sorta like the head of the Sufi/Shi'a order)

I think that we could add another hero, Shah Ismail the 1st shah was a terrible attacker but a psychotic warrior. As I explained before about chaldiran, he just charged the enemy, flaying as many turks as possible before fleeing. Also super Pios.

:2thumbsup:

[Inal_the_Great]

- Inal the Great - according to what you are writing about the Prince of princes is still a good title for the faction leader, I can simply make ordinary princes more difficult to controll - small loyalty should help, this way it will be more possible to have some sort of a civil war, but will recreate the situation pretty well.


Ok! Sounds good! :2thumbsup:
Just dont make the loyalty too low and it will work perfectly I think.

[YanTraken]

Becouse Cegorach for few days will not be able to show any screenshots I decided to make one:).Please remember that this is only a project and it must be reconsidered and approved by Cegorach!:book:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7282/sample6sh.th.jpg (https://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sample6sh.jpg)

[SkyElf]

Cegorach, Very Impressive pictures and senario's for the MOD!!! My Hat is off to you and the other members of the MOD!

[YanTraken]

Got a small problem.I modyfied one file without backup and my MTVI (Pike and Musket)is "dead":oops: .Could someone send me this damned file :help:
...MTW\Battle\Flags\FN_POLISH -it`s TGA file(3,95 kb)

Her`s my e-mail: yankees0@op.pl
Thanks:sweatdrop:

[YanTraken]

Never mind!!!Thanks to kindness of Chris Kelson ~:cheers: i have the file and the work starts again:book:

[YanTraken]

OK,that`s it!:wall: Could Someone please tell me where is that :furious3: campaign map from MTW VI?I looked everywhere-whole game folder and nothing:book: .I need some kind of (bmp.,jpg,TGA-whatever)of this map.Maby I manage to add some cool stuff there.~D

[cegorach]

I am back in the home and my country ! :balloon2:
No offc\ense, but only here you can see so many beautiful girls every day :laugh4: :inquisitive: :dizzy2:

I will add the screens when I finish few things - I am quite busy for now... :2thumbsup:

@Beauchamp

And the Turkic cavalry what name would be good for them, and the Afghans ??? Any suggestions ? :book:

@Inal the Great

Of course, very good new titles BTW.

[beauchamp]

Turki Qullar for the turkic

Afghans are tough to find, and werent used mostly for the army, if you just want to simplyfy it it would be something like Afghani Infantry.
Ill keep looking for the farsi word for it.

[Radier]

Very nice screens! The graphics are very detailed... Those wagons must have been hard to make.

And I am glad to hear 1.5 release is getting close. :2thumbsup:

Yantraken your campaign-trooper looks good. Is it for Poland only or for western Europe?

[YanTraken]

I suppose it will be a piece of "army"for whole Europe.There is also made a piece of"Army Leader"(King/Tzar).Muslims will have different pieces-janczar as"army"and some cavalry man for "Army leader"^_^
Here`s a project that must be still reconsidered and approved by Cegorach.
https://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4609/sample106ay.th.jpg (https://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sample106ay.jpg)

[YanTraken]

My name is King.................Lion King:laugh4:
It`s only a project but I think it looks better than the previous one:)
https://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1066/behold3yf.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

[Radier]

I think they look good. :2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

King is very good you can proceed with the rest

Some older screens I finally managed to add

Fanatical persian Kizilbash cavalry - 'red hats' as you can see on the screens

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/KIZIL.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/KIZIL1.jpg

Circassian cavalry - these particular ones are called Werq Dzhigit - noble cavalry armed with carbines more often than with bows.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/CIRCASSIANS1.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/CIRCASSIANS2.jpg

Finished Husaria

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/HUSARIA2.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/HUSARIA3.jpg

If you possess PMTW 1.0 on your HDD you might want to try them, so I decided to place this mini-install ready to use here

http://rapidshare.de/files/14335064/HUSARIA_demo.exe.html

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[Radier]

Beautiful screens as usual! And I like the new husaria (just slaughtered 400 preussians with one unit of husaria...). :2thumbsup:

Keep this up!

[cegorach]

Another file you can install even in PMTW 1.0 - will be useful for the incoming release as well, don't worry, but you can download it right now if you like.

Here is the first of the two music themes for the game - very simple to install and user friendly.

link

http://rapidshare.de/files/14341032/PMTW_music_theme_1.exe.html

regards Cegorach :book:

[YanTraken]

OHH,I will proceed :bow:
and after that I`ll kill myself because of that rapid:furious3: it says that I have to wait 46 minutes to download that Husaria file:gah2::furious3:
I`m finishing "the one,the only" Town FORTRESS ,where all enemy invaders who try to get it will be doomed.:skull: Screnshots soon :book:

[cegorach]

Well... this means that quite many people are downloading it :2thumbsup:

edit - it says only 18 seconds of waiting to me...

[YanTraken]

I wonder abaut Husaria -what attack parameters do they have fighting with lances(kopia)and with sabres?As we know in battle they used one(sometimes few)lance that was giving them that powerfull momentum.But when crushed they used sabres/koncerz/nadziak etc.So how it looks in the game?

[Inal_the_Great]

Nice update! :2thumbsup:

I can edit!!! I have the power to edit ! Yeay!! Freeedooom!!! :charge:

[Radier]

I can edit!!! I have the power to edit ! Yeay!! Freeedooom!!! :charge:

When big men finally can edit, even they weep... :bow:

[YanTraken]

Uffff,it`s not finished yet :scastle:but soon it`ll be ready and everything will match-I hope!:laugh4:
Appropriate residence for our kings:knight:.
https://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1756/sample156wm.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

[cegorach]

Very impressive, even if not ready yet ! :2thumbsup:

Answering your question - it is quite complicated, because Husaria uses 3 ranks in combat ( so starts with this bloody close formation in the beginning of every battle - you have to switch it off obviously) and should use loose formation when moving or even whrn fighting someone not too dangerous.

They have the most powerful charge in the game, but it is still perfectly realistic, so why not.
BTW there could be up to 5 types of Husaria in the game, although some very limited in use and hard to access.

More screens - your recent work

muslim army figures

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/armiainvmuslim.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/armiamusmarsz.jpg

european army invades

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/szwedziinv.jpg

I am staying in the web for almost 1 hour so ask if you have questions all of you :book:

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

Second music theme to choose from :book:

http://rapidshare.de/files/14374386/PMTW_music_theme_2.exe.html

[Radier]

Wonderful screens!! :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

Very detailed graphics as usual.

[Inal_the_Great]

Can you have two flags for a country?

One for Battlefield and one for Campaign?

:inquisitive:

[Yggdrasill]

To Cegorach -sorry for not posting sooner (about Hungary units). You have made a very complete unit list, everything is there. Two things - Hungarian hussars didn't look so similar to late 17th century husaria like they do in the mod. Perhaps changing the colour of the cape to something other than red would be better.

The other is one regional unit in Croatia province you can add -Uskoci. They were very similar to Cossacks actually. Consisting of various renegades from the teritorry conquered by the Turks, and local population, they set up two bases. One in the Adriatic sea, where they became corsairs, fighting Turks and Venice, using small ships very similar to the ones used by the Cossacks (15-20 meters long, sails and rows, could be towed accross ground, occassionaly they burnt their ships after a peace treaty had been signed only to build more in a couple of months): They caused a lot of problems for Venice, and wars were fought to subdue them.
The other group was inland, close to were Zagreb is today, they were basically mercenary infantry.
Weapons for both groups - arquebus and sword or sabre, maybe a pistol instead of an arquebus. They existed in the 1550-1620 period. The polish dragoon looks similar to what they looked like. They were basically light skirmishers, skilfull in ambushes, hidding etc.


By the way, Osprey has just announced a Polish Winged Hussar 1576-1775 book (Warrior series), to be published in June, author is Richard Brzezinski, artist is Velimir Vuksic (one of the best there is but unjustly neglected and relatively unknown - much better than even Angus McBride - I think YanTraken has a part of his illustration in his sig). I know OSprey books are kind of short and too vague somethimes (but combined with more serious history books they are a much needed visual companion).
I think this will be a treat for all of us! :2thumbsup:

It's amazing how much you've managed to squeeze out of the old MTW engine, it really makes one wonder what the hell were CA doing. Original MTW could have looked like this. :furious3:

[YanTraken]

Original MTW could have looked like this. :furious3:
No it couldn`t,because We werent in their team:bow::laugh4:

[cegorach]

To Cegorach -sorry for not posting sooner (about Hungary units). You have made a very complete unit list, everything is there. Two things - Hungarian hussars didn't look so similar to late 17th century husaria like they do in the mod. Perhaps changing the colour of the cape to something other than red would be better.

The other is one regional unit in Croatia province you can add -Uskoci. They were very similar to Cossacks actually. Consisting of various renegades from the teritorry conquered by the Turks, and local population, they set up two bases. One in the Adriatic sea, where they became corsairs, fighting Turks and Venice, using small ships very similar to the ones used by the Cossacks (15-20 meters long, sails and rows, could be towed accross ground, occassionaly they burnt their ships after a peace treaty had been signed only to build more in a couple of months): They caused a lot of problems for Venice, and wars were fought to subdue them.
The other group was inland, close to were Zagreb is today, they were basically mercenary infantry.
Weapons for both groups - arquebus and sword or sabre, maybe a pistol instead of an arquebus. They existed in the 1550-1620 period. The polish dragoon looks similar to what they looked like. They were basically light skirmishers, skilfull in ambushes, hidding etc.


-----------> I know about them, there are in the mod from release 1.0 actually

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/uskoks.jpg

Still the name makes me wonder - is it the proper spelling in Croatian ( or Slavonian) - if yes what is it in singular Uskoc :inquisitive: ??

The hungarian hussars will get different animations - the ones shown long time ago were my primitive attempt to make them look better, fortunatelly there is YanTraken to correct it now.


By the way, Osprey has just announced a Polish Winged Hussar 1576-1775 book (Warrior series), to be published in June, author is Richard Brzezinski, artist is Velimir Vuksic (one of the best there is but unjustly neglected and relatively unknown - much better than even Angus McBride - I think YanTraken has a part of his illustration in his sig). I know OSprey books are kind of short and too vague somethimes (but combined with more serious history books they are a much needed visual companion).
I think this will be a treat for all of us! :2thumbsup:

----------> I have ordered 4 Husaria books from Osprey, I hope that they will be as good as many other Osprey books I bought, the author Richard Brzezinski is very good and made only few mistakes in the books I have. Vuksic - I agree he seems to be a brilliant artist so I am waiting for this book impatiently...


It's amazing how much you've managed to squeeze out of the old MTW engine, it really makes one wonder what the hell were CA doing. Original MTW could have looked like this. :furious3:

---------> True, I think they used only 30% or so of many possibilities in the game itself.
I am trying to use as much as possible, but some, like short movies before historical battles and/or campaigns will be added later in later release - probably the last one for MTW VI.

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

Link with the introduction of the Husaria book :book:

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_detail.php/title=S650X

[Radier]

Short movies before historical battles sound awesome. Hell you can certainly change every aspect of the game!

~:cheers:

[Yggdrasill]

Still the name makes me wonder - is it the proper spelling in Croatian ( or Slavonian) - if yes what is it in singular Uskoc ??

That's the correct spelling no question about it, I speak the language. Singular is Uskok, plural is Uskoci. K into C in front of an I is a common change in Croatian spelling.

About Brzezinski - one thing he wrote and seems to support and I can't agree with is the origin of the name hussar from Serbian gussar. As a speaker of Croatian (Serbian is almost identical, a foreigner couldn't tell it apart) it doesn't seem likely to me and I favour the other theory, Hungarian word husz meaning twenty and ar meaning man. Vuksic supported the same theory in one of his earlier books, and I am very curious what the two of them will agree upon in their collaboration for this book.

Why 4 books?

[YanTraken]

Off Topic:Here`s a small (2 MB) mpeg showing whole army:laugh4: of Pancerni and Hussars attacking Swedes-I think.
Who knows,mabe it looked like this:)
http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/AudioVisual/PancerCharge.mpg

[cegorach]

That's the correct spelling no question about it, I speak the language. Singular is Uskok, plural is Uskoci. K into C in front of an I is a common change in Croatian spelling.


---------> Great, so I will correct their name immediatelly. :book:

About Brzezinski - one thing he wrote and seems to support and I can't agree with is the origin of the name hussar from Serbian gussar. As a speaker of Croatian (Serbian is almost identical, a foreigner couldn't tell it apart) it doesn't seem likely to me and I favour the other theory, Hungarian word husz meaning twenty and ar meaning man. Vuksic supported the same theory in one of his earlier books, and I am very curious what the two of them will agree upon in their collaboration for this book.

-------> So do I.

Why 4 books?

-------> I have 20 % discount and some friends who wanted the book...

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[robert306gti]

Ok... hope noone else have said anything about this.... tried to read all the posts. I bought a book about swedish battles because of this mod... I realized i didnt know that much about them and found a good and quite objective book that was cheap.

1. The swedish army during the time of Gustav Wasa was peasants. They offered their services to their king and was not supposed to be used fa away. Because of this ''Swedes'' fought ''Swedes'' when fighting Denmark because the Danish king from one point of view was the legitimate king.

2. The army under Gusta II Adolf was the same but now they could be used outside the country. sweden had been organized so that a village (not sure about the size) should give the army a certain number of soldiers. Because of swedens small population most of swedens forces was mercanaries.

3. Under Karl XI the swedish Indelningsverk where a couple of farms should support and equip a soldier was used. These soldiers trained a couple of times a year and was quite professional. They were a part of the society and had their own little farm (where I grew up a street was called grenadjärsvägen... grenadier road... because of this). They were the Karolin army. But once again swedens population was the limit.

anything wrong? tell me. Any questions I should check for in the book? ask me.

the polish husars with wings kicked the swedish cavalrys butt (and the rest of the army too)... in Kirkenäs i think, in the beginning. the swedes used a system where they rode against the enemy, fired their pistol and turned around ande the next did the same thing... the polish husars used the knight tactic and slaughtered them. later the swedish cavalry rode against the enemy together, on their small horses, waited until the last moment and fired their pistol, drew their sword and attacked... very effecient.

[Radier]

Cheers my fellow countryman!

I find your information correct. But you know Gustav Vasa used german merceneries to.
This mod add reforms, like Indelningsverket, so that your army evolves like it did on real. Very cool!

Cegorach, any news about an estimated releasedate? (Sorry for asking, is just so damn curious). :2thumbsup:

[Inal_the_Great]

Let it be late but good, friend from the North :2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

OK some screens

The game allows you to choose

this

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/hadziacz.jpg



or this

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/pereyasl.jpg

hard to pronounce ???

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/CZERK.jpg

don't worry there are more difficult names...

Later I will add some screens with latest animations...


Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

Ok... hope noone else have said anything about this.... tried to read all the posts. I bought a book about swedish battles because of this mod... I realized i didnt know that much about them and found a good and quite objective book that was cheap.

the polish husars with wings kicked the swedish cavalrys butt (and the rest of the army too)... in Kirkenäs i think, in the beginning. the swedes used a system where they rode against the enemy, fired their pistol and turned around ande the next did the same thing... the polish husars used the knight tactic and slaughtered them. later the swedish cavalry rode against the enemy together, on their small horses, waited until the last moment and fired their pistol, drew their sword and attacked... very effecient.



First welcome to the forum !

It is good that you are intersted in the period of history and that the mod made you looking for more, it is one of its purposes :inquisitive: :book:

Be careful when it comes to the descriptions of Polish-Swedish wars I have discovered that they can be very biased, swedish are more far from the truth, unfortunatelly for example the battle at Walhoff between 1500 suprised Poles and some 4000+ Swedes is described in a completely wrong way.

I can't resist to correct one thing, forgive me all of you.

Winged Hussars didn't have much in common with knights except 3 things
- that they were cavalry,
- that they were wearing armour,
- and that they were using long lances, but those of the Husaria were hollow, which is often forgotten...

Their charge was one of more difficult ones to learn and to stop.

First they usually dyployed in 3 lines with infantry units and artillery between their formations

like here

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/pologne.jpg

Next they were charging in waves

One line of units at a time - so they started charge in loose formation accelerating minute after minute. Next around 100 m from target they tightened formation accelerating even more starting with those soldiers from behind so their formation kept perfect shape even when it was necessary to replace losses from enemy firepower.
Next they hit the target which could be enemy pikemen ( they were the only cavalry able to break enemy pikemen formations charging in front of their lines) - their first two ranks were using 5.5 meter lances which unhorsed enemy raiders, hit enemy pikemen throwing them like broken dolls creating massive holes in enemy formation ( like elephants in the RTW) ready to explore by rank 3, 4th and so on which were using pistols to create more havoc.
If the charge was not enough they were able to retreat quickly to replace broken lances, reorganise and give more time to their infantry to cause more mess.

The enemy had a huge problem now, because if they survived the first charge at the very moment when the first one stopped and the first wave of Hussars retreated another line ( from those 3) started charging, so enemy could face several ones, one per few minutes...

If the first charge was successfull ( they were targeted usually into enemy flanks to envelope the entire battleline and kill them all) lighter cavalry called Kozacy was used to support Hussars ( like armoured carriers with infantry support tanks) to enlarge the holes and rout the enemy.

Generally you had to be very brave, experienced, fortified or lucky to survive and to win.

The Swedes became a kind of experts at this, but after 20+ years of carnages ( lost all battles before Walhoff in 1626 if I am correct about the date) against forces several times smaller than their.
Contrary to the popular beliefs their cavalry stopped caracoling quite early - because it was seen as horrible tactic against Polish rapid moving armies, but you had to do much more.

Gustav Adolf learnt to use massive short range volleys together with numerous artillery, field fortifications, use of terrain unsuitable to cavalry and his own reformed cavalry to counterassault, but still it was hard to stop Husaria like at Warsaw when around 1000 Hussars broke through their line - unfortunatelly it was terribly coordinated without any support which was supposed to attack at the same time, well... John Casimir was a bad offensive commander.

So please be careful, because I have learnt to my cost that many Swedes ( including historians and writers) see Husaria as a kind of 'outdated knights' which is not true at all. :wall:

You can give anyone the link to this post. I will be delighted to explain them any details thay need.

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

Cegorach,don`t write them abaut our tactics:charge:,because they gonna use it against us in the game ~:joker:
And you`re right.In many western countries Polish history is described with many mistakes(attacking tanks with cavalry for example)Huh,who`s a bigger knothead-We or those who write :book: such a stupidity?!.

[cegorach]

@YanTraken

I personally 'converted' several unbelivers to our couse:2thumbsup: Soon we will rule the world ! :idea2:

@Radier

Release... I lost almost 2 weeks because of the return to Poland and things connected to this...

I hope I will be ready in the last week of March. :2thumbsup:

[Radier]

A nice spring gift to us all Ceg. :2thumbsup:

And Yantraken guess now which country that will be my primary target, hehe (well at least if there are few husaria in it). ~;)

p.s I like the circassian name on it's infantry. I'm sure some circassian general confused two words when he shouted an order and what came from his mouth was: "Lhxwqwel Zeva...!!? :inquisitive: ". Poor generals... :no:

[YanTraken]

URAAAAAA..za pierestrojku!!!
https://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6060/sample214qm.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
and as always,this is only a project etc.

@Radier
I think that the worst enemy for the Winged Hussars was/is .....................the bird flu.They had so many feathers that this damned virus could took them for some kind of gigantic eagle or hawk.The same concern Turkish Dehli,Russian eehmm Tzar Bodyguard and even rich guys who worn feathers on their hats:stupido:

[Radier]

Oh awesome graphics Yantraken! So now we have for western Europe, muslims and Russia, right? :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

I think so,but first Cegorach has to authorize them:)If He do so the only animations left will be Piechota Wybraniecka and Swedish skiers.They are infantry so they require a HUGE amount of normal move and acting animations....ughhhh....:sweatdrop:

[robert306gti]

didnt mean to describe them as knights. the book is clear on that. but they were more knight like... almost all other husars got less armour and used pistols as sec weapon and sword as primary whilst the polish husars got heavier and used brute force to break enemy forces... only a professional army can stand such an shock attack... but the book describes most things very shortly. the book also states that many battles in which sweden (and often the enemy too) declared themself winners was more or less draws. poland was for a long time swedens prime enemy after denmark. even during the war against russia Karl XII prioritized fighting the poles under some sachsan ruler before advancing into russia and catastrophy. karl XII broke swedens back fighting russia.

gustav II adolf was a great commander. dont think any other swedish king is close to him. after the war sweden relied more upon their own population... to small to be able to cover all long borders against enemys who allied against sweden. if sweden hadnt seized the oppurtunity to take part in the german war sweden would have no chance seizing the areas they did.

i will probably never play this game unless its released for a 3d engine... unfortunatly. i wont buy medieval total war 1.... too old game engine... but i have wondered why there isnt a game about th 30 year german war.

an interesting and scary thing is that from 15 years old you could be used in the army in the peasent army. the younger the easier to teach how to fight was the general idea. its a scary thought to see school boys fighting cannong, husars (just think how you as a 15 year old school boy would react to polish husars with thick armour, long lances and wings charging you), cannons, getting plague and dying in a country far away from home. no wonder the quality of swedens army was low before Gustav II Adolf.

[cegorach]

In fact Polish Hussars were using pistols when the lances were broken or when they were not required e.g. against swift Tatars...

The 3d version will be prepared from MTW 2, so it will take a while to make it - at least one year after the release of MTW 2...

Regards cegorach :book:

[cegorach]

@YanTraken

Opróżnij proszę skrzynkę e-mailową, bo nic nie mogę przesłać !! :inquisitive: :wall:

[cegorach]

Another thing to download.

It is the new set of event pictures, it is almost ready, but I need your help to check which ones are not changed yet - it is quite complicated to put them in the right place if you don't have much time to play the mod...

So please try them

http://rapidshare.de/files/14981658/NEW_EVENTS_PICTURES.exe.html

If you have PMTW 1.0 of course...

Regards Cegorach :book:

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Great work as usual guys. I see you've created new map pieces - if you can, please let me know how you did it so the bar wasn't always full despite the fact that there is only one unit in the stack, I'm having the same problem at the minute.

[YanTraken]

All done Cegorach.Just so many girls writes to me love letters uffff :sweatdrop:

Mabe You could add some icon "building in progress"that appears on province territory near town for expel.Some kind of hammer mabe just to show for player that something there is building.:inquisitive:

[Radier]

All done Cegorach.Just so many girls writes to me love letters uffff :sweatdrop:

Haha yeah right! :laugh4: Worst appology ever... ~;)

[cegorach]

@BKB

I wish I knew it... at least it will conceal the sizes of their armies for now... I removed general's stars to make it harder and cause some paranoia - 'so many huge armies around me, what should I do ???:laugh4: '.

@YanTraken

Right... :inquisitive:

The hammer, good idea, but rather impossible to add.

Cegorach

P.S. Busy today in this forum :dizzy2:

[YanTraken]

That`s True,I`m telling You!!!:laugh4:

@Cegorach
No general`s stars?Really?So how do we recognize the most experienced chief?
Stupid question:How to sign an alliance playing Poland with Turkey?Send them emissary or what?

[axel]

hi all cane somme one give me the links to download this nice mod and wot to put on first or should i waith first till the nice Update of this mod is done????

[axel]

hi all cane somme one give me the links to download this nice mod for MTW and wot to put on first or should i waith first till the nice Update of this mod is done????

[YanTraken]

Greetings!Here is the link for P&M v1.0
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=49031
it`s not far away(in download section on this forum:)
You can also get the new husaria animations and music themes for v.1.5 there.
A full new P&M v 1.5 is about to be released in the end of March:)

[axel]

so its better to waith till the end of march or cane you just put the new one over the 1.0 version??? or must i delete the 1.0 version and then put the 1.5 version on again?

[YanTraken]

@Axel
Do as You want Axel,but I think that the most sensible way would be to wait that few days for 1.5:)

@Cegorach
-I postulate to add such a campaign called "No time limit".It`s pity when You cant` build all the things You are able to,just because the time has ended:)
-I know it`s difficult but:clicking twice on province could open building or recruitment bar.
-is their`s some way to rebuild units that had taken losses in previous battles?

[axel]

ok will do mate may i ask one question if the 1.5 is out do i only have to download the 1.5 version and install this on my MTW to have to complete version mate????? i love the screenshots

[Ironside]

Winged Hussars didn't have much in common with knights except 3 things
- that they were cavalry,
- that they were wearing armour,
- and that they were using long lances, but those of the Husaria were hollow, which is often forgotten...


Unless I'm mistaken you forgot probably one of the main reasons why they are popularly refered to as knights.

They were nobility weren't they? ~;)

Although Polish nobility differs a bit from western Europeian nobility.

[YanTraken]

Although Polish nobility differs a bit from western Europeian nobility.

Yeap-they drunk much more and most of them didn`t worn those hairpieces with ribbons:dizzy2:

@Axel
Honestly I don`t know.Cegorach is a technical expert here so He will anwser You.According to me it`ll be self-sufficient patch.
Please remember that You need MTW Viking Invasion!.....i think:sweatdrop:
Cheers!

[axel]

ok thx mate ill waith till Cegorach tels me how to do it :2thumbsup:

[robert306gti]

I think Sweden should be seriously hampered by low population. The only way sweden should be able to have any success is to use the tactic Gustav II Adolf used: use mercanaries and fincance the war with plunder and sacking towns and payment from other governments (france paid sweden in many wars). I guess Denmark should have the same problem.

[cegorach]

Unless I'm mistaken you forgot probably one of the main reasons why they are popularly refered to as knights.

They were nobility weren't they? ~;)

Although Polish nobility differs a bit from western Europeian nobility.


First good to see you here Ironside !

Next - they were nobility, but cavalrymen at that time ( in the whole Europe) were mainly from nobility... Besides Husaria consisted from Nobles, but not always and in fact quite many people in Poland were nobles - around 1 500 000 at that time - now around 30 000 000, but noone cares anymore :laugh4:

That is why I didn't mention it at all.

Regards Cegorach :book:

[cegorach]

@Axel

For now play PMTW 1.0 + add the new upgrades - in this thread and download thread.

PMTW 1.5 will be a complete new install much bigger than 1.0 and it won't be possible to add this as a patch so you will need a fresh install of MTW VI

Generally it will give you:

4 campaigns including English Civil Wars on the map from Viking campaign,

- about 30 factions per campaign ( 4 in ECW),

- around 600 new units,

- new techtrees - about 80 new buildings,

- lots of new office titles - up to 20 per faction ( 20 for France),

- new historical battles and one historical campaign,

- lots of new animations including war wagons and ski troops,

- new music - not much for now,

- about 200 historical heroes,

- new portrait sets, icons etc,

- 3 new controll panels to choose from,

- a new map ( for now from MTW XL - thanks to VikingHorde),

- recreated crusades and jihads,

- many unique possibilities including vassal states, unions, religious tolerance/intolerance, military reforms, units using two missile weapons to choose from and much more,



LATER in the patch

- more unit animations,

- more than 10 new historical battles ( I am gathering data for some),

- most likely a completely new map,

- hopefully new battlefield maps including new castles,

- some short movies added before historical battles,

- much more new music,


Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[axel]

hi mate thx for reply

[axel]

verry nice cant waith to play this nice mod mate

[YanTraken]

Question to Cegorach or scandinavians ~:)
How the ski troops were skiing with only one stick?Were they changing the side of belching from right to the left and so on,or did they use only one side for this action?:dizzy2:

[Radier]

Wow the feature-list for 1.5 is unbelievable!! 600 new units wtf!! :dizzy2:

Yantraken I don't know anything about our skitroops but it seems very illogical to use only one stick. Maybee Ironside or Robert will know.

[YanTraken]

Illogical-maybe,but I`m sure it is a fact.Osprey presents ski trooper with one stick in one hand and with bow and arrows in other.Plus they had muskets in the later time.But I think it depended from some fashion of skiing(they were using legs more often than today.Stick was used sporadically).I`m not sure,but I need those information to finish animation of ski unit.

[Lambere]

Greetings all,

Returning to serious gaming after too many years in academia, I come upon Total War, and esp. Hellenic TW. Very damn nice. There was a comment above re other versions of the 30 Years War - there was (is) one; it's a "mod" by one Drummaker (sorry about the spelling!) some 10 years ago from the Warlords II series (Deluxe). Available at Warlords Encyclopedia (Bob Heeter).

I will wait, impatiently, for the spring version. Thanks for working on this!

Cheers,

Lambere

[cegorach]

Illogical-maybe,but I`m sure it is a fact.Osprey presents ski trooper with one stick in one hand and with bow and arrows in other.Plus they had muskets in the later time.But I think it depended from some fashion of skiing(they were using legs more often than today.Stick was used sporadically).I`m not sure,but I need those information to finish animation of ski unit.

I am sure that they indeed used only one stick to move. About their pose - it was similar to the present skiiers, so watch some sport channels or so :book:

No need to worry about the fact that they will use only one side to push themselves, that is pretty enough as well. :book:

Regards Cegorach :book:

[SwordsMaster]

Hey,

I have a few questions on these skiing units:

Namely, how will the AI handle them in arid and desertic climates? I don't think it should be possible for them to fight in those climates at all except as maybe rank-and-file light infantry.

[cegorach]

I will try to make them very hard to build for the AI, but if someone chooses them to use in the desert intentionally I can't do anything against it - it is player's choice after all even if completely unrealistic :book:

[Inal_the_Great]

Well Desert skiers... Dont sound that bad at least! :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

Yeap,we should also add them some towing lug for Camel sled and oasis detector.~:)

[beauchamp]

Speaking of camel sleds and sand skiing, are the tuaregs included in Pike and Musket?

[Inal_the_Great]

Okay perhaps this is more for Pike and Musket 2 (Medieval Total war 2) but the capital of Circassia should be Chantchir not Chantgir I just realized my mistake sorry about that!

BTW here is something you can use to show how the mod Is progressing...


For example lets just say that right now, we are at 94% overally.

Overall

-------------------------------------------------I
///////////////////////////////////////////////////
%10 %20 %30 %40 %50 %60 %70 %80 %90 %100
-------------------------------------------------I

Graphics & Animations

-------------------------------------------------I
////////////////////////////////////////
%10 %20 %30 %40 %50 %60 %70 %80 %90 %100
-------------------------------------------------I

Sounds

-------------------------------------------------I
////////////////////////////////////////////////
%10 %20 %30 %40 %50 %60 %70 %80 %90 %100
-------------------------------------------------I

and so on....

How is this idea?

[YanTraken]

It looks nice but I would feel like talking with robot or reading print out from computer.I prefer to read what Cegorach says about progress:book: .Personally I`m to lazy for making such a advancement bar:sweatdrop:
Still it`s worth a try-putting Your idea at the end of Cegorach news presentation~:)

[Inal_the_Great]

Its just me probably I love numbers! :laugh4:

[Radier]

Its just me probably I love numbers! :laugh4:

Yes me too! Especially statistical numbers. :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

Off Topic(if there is any:)
What address should I give for image file that I want to add to my website that I`m making?I know that it can`t be an address from my hard disc.So " /uniform.jpg "and that`s it??
Sorry for posting here but I don`t want to create a new thread for only one question:)

[Radier]

Off Topic(if there is any:)
What address should I give for image file that I want to add to my website that I`m making?I know that it can`t be an address from my hard disc.So " /uniform.jpg "and that`s it??
Sorry for posting here but I don`t want to create a new thread for only one question:)

Hmm I just go with "img search".

Example: "<img src="pictures/picture1.png" and picture1 comes up. But it was a long time ago a worked with html so I don't know... :juggle2:

[YanTraken]

Thank You mighty Viking:)I`ll see what I can do:)

[Radier]

Just pm me if it doesn't work. ~:)

[cegorach]

One of new screens

French Royal Musketeers

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/MUSZKIETERZY.jpg



Regards Cegorach :book:

[Radier]

They look good. :2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

Today I have received the most complicated and sophisticated animations for the mod, screenshots soon + I have several older to show as well :book: :dizzy2:

[Radier]

Might that be our skeetroopers?? ~:)

What happens if you invade, let's say Estonia, with them and it is summer? Will they skii on the grass? :book:

[cegorach]

Nope there is something more complicated...

The skii units will always have the option to 'dismount' before the battle into light sniper infantry called Marksmen, but during the winter BEWARE ! :2thumbsup:

[Radier]

Ah genious! :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: Shall use them alot against russians!

[YanTraken]

I`m almost sure they are not skeetropers:)
Radier-please stay in Your beautiful country and do not plan any other Europe conquests.One Gustavus in history is enough~;) :viking:JOKE:laugh4:
and Tacka du for hjalpa oss.Jag forsok forlara sig Swedish vid internet.
Hm,I hope I`m not declaring war:sweatdrop:

[Radier]

Hmm can you give us a clue what they are?

Hehe Gustavus would have been proud if he could play PMTW 1.5! ;)
I shall not let him down...

"Hm,I hope I`m not declaring war"
I can say Poland just climbed my 'attack-list'. :laugh4:

And how come you can write in swedish Pan Yan?? :bow:

[YanTraken]

About the clue->Cegorach knows when it will be the proper time for it.I can only give You a tip that Swedish were also had a tough fight with them.

"I can say Poland just climbed my 'attack-list"
-In that case I need to build some landing craft medium and visit mabe Goeteborg with my winged friends-heh~:)

"and how come you can write in swedish Pan Yan??"
Pan Yan?!?Whoa,nice first steps in polish Radier!
I have no idea how I`m writing Swedish.It`s just happening....with a small help of swedish-english dictionary:D

[Radier]

Dziękuję Pan Yan! :2thumbsup:

Rozmawiać Twój Język is Łatwy! ~:pimp:

But I think I will stick to english. :laugh4:

Oh and I will of course wait for Ceg to post it. :)

[YanTraken]

Radier My noble Friend!now You speak human!But right-English does`nt have so many dots,commas and other squiggles as our languages:)
I hope You gonna like those two last units We made.

[cegorach]

Everybody will, besides I haven't shown some earlier screens...

I am uploading something that is why I have so much 'free' time... :wall:

[beauchamp]

Toll

[Ironside]

Tacka du for hjalpa oss.Jag forsok forlara sig Swedish vid internet.

That would be: Tack för att du hjälper oss. Jag försöker att lära mig svenska med internet.
In English: Thank you for helping us. I'm trying to learn Swedish with the Internet.
I think that's it, some parts of the second sentence needed guesswork.

[YanTraken]

Heh,thanks Ironside,just imagine that in English-Swedish internet dictionary I couldn`t find how is Swedish in.....Swedish ~:)

[cegorach]

New screens

The unit and its soldiers in action - there are only 3 ski units in the game...

One of them

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/skiinfinland.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/skiidle.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/skimarch.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/skionskiis.jpg

Regards Cegorach :book:

[YanTraken]

Wow,Cegorach-You work FAST!Impressive:)
Now we can start our Winter Olympiad hehe.Firs competition is biathlon,then ski jumps;)

[Radier]

Impressive work indeed! :bow:

How do you choose between skiing and walking btw?

[YanTraken]

hmm,let me guess...mouse right click on unit and chose dismount/remount?

[Radier]

Ah ok, thanks. ~:)

I never dismounted units in MTW so that's the reason I didn't know.

[YanTraken]

Radier I do not know this.I only guessing!:)
And I have a question-I dont know anything about scandinavian history and I ask:does Finland was always in alliance with Sweden?
P.S.Radier- could You please loose a hokey match just once in a time playing against Finland ;)

[Radier]

Heh, infact we loose the majority of the times when we meet them in hockey. :no: They are better than us...

Simplyfied version of finnish history: Well Finland was never an 'ally'. They were the eastern part of Sweden. We sent crusades to Finland in medieval times with the slogan "Baptise or die". Soon the finns became catholic christians and swedish troops pressed eastward and soon Finland was ours and would be that in more than 500 years.

There are like 0.5 million people in Finland who talks swedish; they are descendants from swedish settlers. Many towns and so has swedish names too...

We pressed many many finns in to our lines. They were reliable soldiers. Many must have died for my country wich is pretty awful because when the russians attacked Finland in the second world war we did not help them with troops (only 10 000) so today many finns see negativly on us swedes. Well that is pretty much it. ~:)

My musician teacher in the other school wanted to take Finland back and raise the swedish flag in Helsingfors... :sweatdrop:

[YanTraken]

Heh,I see You werent good neighbours not only for Pol/Lit Republic:)
My history teacher wanted to make Lw&#243;w again Polish city-but in that form which it was in the past(before that stupid german war)-that is multicultural,where poles,ukrainians,turks,tatars,jews,and others lived together.
In my opinion that kind of people(as our teachers) are dangerous because they can use some international situation (aggressive politics for example)to influence somehow society and because of that also government actions making things worse.

[Kepuli]

Well, you can come try, Radier...:laugh4:
Question for Cegorach, are you doing new animations for line infantry and grenadiers and could you show some screens?

[YanTraken]

grenadiers?line infantry?
This Mod is from XVI to XVII century,so I dont think that any european country had them in that time.Grenadier formations came up mabe after 1710 and line infantry was used during Napoleons era.
I`m not a historian so mabe I`m wrong.:)

[Kepuli]

in PTW 1.0 there was line infanty formation recruitable and for some factions grenadiers..If I remember correct, it French and swedish who could recruit grenadiers.. Those formation came available after building highest fortress and some other advanced buildings..

[Kepuli]

And yes.. Your work is very very beautiful and mod looks very promising. I hope release will be soon.

[YanTraken]

perhaps You`re right:)I never played Western countries in P&M..:D

[Kepuli]

You can check the issue from custom battle.. I hope the tricorn hat line is still included in 1.5, because they provide some flavour from 18th century.. and that would be nice because there is no 18th century mod for mtw or rtw..atleast any with the campaign..

[cegorach]

Well, you can come try, Radier...:laugh4:
Question for Cegorach, are you doing new animations for line infantry and grenadiers and could you show some screens?

It is not the priority, but someone is working on it. It most likely will be prepared for the patch after 1.5. Still the old line infantry/grenadiers animations will remain in 1.5. as itwas in 1.0.

Cheers !:book:

[Kepuli]

okey, but is it possible to change units hats without having to do whole new animations.. Just changing those two corn hats to mitres and tricorns could make them look more better, Then I could wait patch in peace. Or could you ask NTW guys to borrow their grenadier model and maybe the line model from ATW, would look much better than the militia style units...

[cegorach]

I can say, that the idea is to use ATW line infantry with slightly diferent uniforms e.g. it will be recolourable, the one in ATW is set to one colour only. Grenadiers won't get new animations - no space, I need to keep some for Landsknechts, musketeers in morions and others... Sorry, unfortunatelly not every graphic file can be fully usefull, besides it is more late XvIth-early XVIIth century mod.
You can't have everything, I guess.


Regards Cegorach :no:

[Kepuli]

I will be satisfied with those.. Yes, can´t get everything. I have to wait Early modern war mod then :). Are going to use american line infantrys animations?

[cegorach]

Back to the topic

Haiduk infantry used in Hungary, Poland and many other countries - same uniforms different tactics.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/hunshoot.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/hunrun.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/huncharge.jpg

Regards Cegorach :book:

[YanTraken]

I think I`ll start to cry......It`s so good to see them;)!

[Radier]

Yes they look very good! :2thumbsup:

[Inal_the_Great]

Counting down the days... :bow:

[YanTraken]

I can hear It steps already:D

[YanTraken]

Cegorach,You wrote:
"- many unique possibilities including vassal states, unions, religious tolerance/intolerance"
That means we can make some country our vassal?How it`ll happen?Do we have to win a war first or will it be a vassal country from the beginning of the campaign?
Describe unions please.How can we make them,are they lasting?

[cegorach]

They are like buildings, but with some additional options...

More:

Hungarian Huszarok

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/hunhuss.jpg

Avoid dating by internet - those Barbary State Algerian Lancers hoped to meet some causasian women ( like Katie Melua...ehhh ) but instead they have to answer some urgent questions aked by their brothers and cousins - Circassian Adiga Dzhigit...

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/internetdates.jpg

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

Circassian "kaukans"are looking awesome-hope pancerni will have the same:)!
-and who is that guy on the red flag?!?

[cegorach]

I have no idea who he is, but I am sure I wouldn't like to meet him... :laugh4:

[Radier]

Looking good as usual! :book: And the release is coming closer...

[cegorach]

I menaged to make this devil on wallachian shield much bigger and easier to see, no you don't need so much imagination to notice them, but nothing better can be done - at least by me...

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/devilsskeleton.jpg

Lancers from early XVIth century. Contrary to many similar units German cavalry used diamond shaped formations so please free to use them in battle.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/hapsburglancers.jpg

Now I can say it - release in 13-14 days.

There shouldn't be any more delays, bt I won't sleep for too long in the coming days...

Regards Cegorach :book:

[YanTraken]

same as me...zzzzzzzzz

[Radier]

Both the shields and the lancers look excellent. Good work! :2thumbsup:

[Kepuli]

Those screenies look so good... How can I wait for another 14 days, Is there more finnish units than ski troopers and hakkapeliitat?..And off the topic again, Radier, My opinion is that we don´t really hate you swedish, it is closer to "love and hate" relationship, I think that the winterwar thing is forgotten and forgived, possible "hate" is more related to hockey and mandatory swedish in our schools..:)

[Radier]

Haha those swedishlessions bring up a lot of hate don't they? :laugh4: Well you are at least richer then us and has less crime and so on... You can be happy about that.

Finnish and Lapp skitroopers are in I think, and also Hakkapeiitat. Maybe some closecombat infantry too Cegorach?

~:cheers:

[Inal_the_Great]

14...

13...

12...


...AAAAAHH!!! ~:eek:






Awesome screens! sorry I am not posting much University is taking time again, plus I have a movie project going on! :2thumbsup:

Seriously getting excited here seeing all the screenshots :dizzy2: keep up the great work. :sweatdrop:

[cegorach]

Haha those swedishlessions bring up a lot of hate don't they? :laugh4: Well you are at least richer then us and has less crime and so on... You can be happy about that.

Finnish and Lapp skitroopers are in I think, and also Hakkapeiitat. Maybe some closecombat infantry too Cegorach?

~:cheers:

For now there are only those three Finnish units, pretty good I believe e.g. there are 2 Norwegian, 5 or so Danish and 12+ Swedish so Scandinavia gets a nice number of unique units.

True I am thinking about the 5th campaign called 'Lion of the North' with even more Finnish, Swedish and other units, but it is reserved for the patch - in June/early July.

Regards Cegorach :book:

[YanTraken]

Playing P&M 1.0 I was getting angry because of repetitive infos about death of my generals,Even when no war was in progress.I was scared giving titles as everyone who got it had been killed in the next turn-it was like handing out death sentences~:)
So Cegorach,How such an events will look like in 1.5v?

[Radier]

Yes 20+ unique units for Scandinavia is very good.

'Lion of the North' would be so so awesome! Hell 5 campaigns... This is/will be definetly the largest mod ever made for MTW. I even think I will play it 2020! :laugh4:

One thing: The METW guys discovered how you get the AI to assault your cities more often. Will that kind of things be incorporated later?

And Yantraken try build borderforts. They protect a bit from assasins... Otherwise I don't know how to get rid of stupid assasins. :sweatdrop:

[YanTraken]

thanks Radier,will try:)

[Kepuli]

Mahtavaa! as we finns say.. 20 skandinavian units are more than we could ever hope for:2thumbsup: .. Campaign idea sounds great! uh, so many days still to go...:(

[beauchamp]

Finnish is supposed to be the most complicated language on earth. With like 16 cases or something!

[YanTraken]

it`s totally off topic .....but You rigth beauchamp^_^
The most complicated languages in my opinion are:Chinese,Finnish and Polish(including regional dialects:)

[cegorach]

I have heard that Polish is the 7th most difficult language in the world, the first 6 ones - I have no idea.


About the assassins - many factions have no access to border forts, that is why spies and assassins should be more useful ( to protect and to attack).

In PMTW 1.5. they will be even more useful since general stars will not appear on campaign map ( you will need to click on the enemy army to get the info) and watch towers will be harder to build - border forts ( renamed centralised administration) will be even more difficult, whereas assassins and spies will be easier to get ( though without valour upgrades from buildings - upgrades for Brothels and taverns were eliminated).

So beware those bastards - they will be quite numerous since the AI likes to use them ( in basic MTW they were easily killed because of the border forts) - but this was the age of assassins and spies after all !

I would like to find any historically famous ones - especially from Italy - it is a shame I still have none...:shame: :shame: but it is hard to find any :wall:


Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

First 6 are:Normal Chinese,Kantonian Chinese,Finnish,G&#243;ralski-Highlander(Poland),Śląski-Silesian(Poland),Kujawski(Poland),and Normal Polish,hehe^_^
About the assassins.I agree they have to be(it`s the only way AI can beat me;).But they were acting mostly in medieval ages,also in XVI-XVII but far more less(I guess).That is why I propose to decrease their appearance in the game as much as it can be done.We are warriors-not silent killers.If AI dont know any other ways to achieve victory that he`s/it`s problem;)
Seriously-mabe there`s a chance to make AI use bribery more often instead of assassins.It was more common in that days:)
Salve to You all!

[YanTraken]

2nd.When trying to make my own battle map I noticed that camera there can move up more far than in normal battle when playing.If increasing camera move up during battle can be done that would be nice.Making some button responsible for it would be even more better.Such a button could bring camera view on the highest level.Some thing like pressing "h"or"u"in ACFB-don`t remember.

[SkyElf]

Still more great units being produced!
:2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

YanTraken

I tried to make the AI to use less bribes, because it is losing too much money this way damaging its own economy very often.

The unrestricted camera - it is eaither among the options in the MTW settings or possible to achieve by cheat codes, I am not sure - do not comapare ti to the possibilities you have when creating the map because you can even dive underground when doing these ( useful when creating water features).

More screens - almost everything is ready - today I am adding the last animation and the rest of the time will be used to make some other changes, correct mistakes and doing other stuff.

Here they are.

Florentian Bande Nere shooting at Milanese pikemen

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/bandenero.jpg

The final version of Persian cavalry - see the new flag

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/persfinal.jpg

Reiters charging - notice they way they are holding their pistols - it was useful to make the lock working better.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/riterscharge.jpg

Albanian Stradiotti in venetian service - notice the double bladed throwing spear called assagaye

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/STRADIOTTI-arzagayeorassagaye.jpg

Ottoman Timarli Sipahi

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/SIPAHI.jpg


Circassian Tiley - in other words Kensai is back !

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/tiley.jpg

Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:

[Radier]

Awesome!! The graphics is way better than MTW. Can't wait to test all the factions! :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

Yeap.Ceg did a splendid work!~:cheers:

[cegorach]

The final piece

Eastern light cavalry with carbines - not so impressive, but one of my favourite.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/pollight2.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/polishlight2.jpg

This ends the screenshots of the new animations, maybe I will thow some action screens later, but for now it is all - release in 10-11 days. :2thumbsup:

[Inal_the_Great]

Hey Cegorach!

Nice work as usualy, my favorites are 1. German Heavy Cavalry, they look scarry in that armor. ~:cool:
Lets see how will tileys do! :2thumbsup:

got a question btw:
So did you said you know the camera cheat? Can you tell me the cheat? I generally always disliked the total war camera dont understand why they dont put a tower or bird-eye view while most other games does. :no:

[beauchamp]

AAAAA! my qizilbash! Blessings upon you Cegorach!

[Kepuli]

Beautiful, beautiful... 10 days to go, they will be looooooooooong ones.. :wall:

[Stormy]

Beautiful work indeed. I will reinstall MTW1 just for this. ~;)

[Radier]

Question: Why does the Albanian Stradiotti have double-edged <============> throwing spear? For what use was that?
I mean, they throw the spear and one edge burries in an enemy. For what use was the other edge? :sweatdrop:

[YanTraken]

Radier,I don`t know anything about Albanian Stradiotti but In my opinion their weapon could been used in two ways.First -throwing,second-fighting in a close combat.Double edged was used to improve that simple weapon.With lance like this You could make various attack maneuvers for example-from Your own back,You didnt have to turn whole lance in 180 degrees.
And by the way-lance with double blade makes it more demanding from user to avoid hurting Your own horse or comrade with a weapon like this.
To show how good this weapon was I just write that Polish Lancers were using something similar during napoleonic era and even mighty Cossacks had fears fighting them.:)
P.S.You look different.Have You changed Your Avatar?or Is it just a hair cut?;)
Here is exaple
http://www.poniatowski.org.pl/galeria/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=13

Here we fight with russians in my home city:)
http://www.poniatowski.org.pl/galeria/displayimage.php?album=19&pos=10

[Radier]

The links are dead, but what you say make sense! I think I got it now.

~:cheers:

And I got tired of my old avatar... :sweatdrop: This one looks better.

[YanTraken]

Here`s is one jpg.
http://napoleon.gery.pl/taktyka/il6a.jpg
Look what I found.Someone called it"Polish Light Horseman w/Lance “Pancerny” - XVII c.":furious3: The performance is great but I had never seen pancerny with hussars pike(kopia):inquisitive:
http://www.maitlandtoysoldiershoppe.com/products/images/grenadastudios/g278-1.jpg
I postulate to make a thread abaut such a mistakes in drawings,paintings etc.!:book:
P.S.Just look at this artist.He`s amazing!
http://www.litvinov.com.ua/ua_ukrainian_theme_paintings.html

[cegorach]

Some screens from my Brandenburgian campaign

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/thebeginningofthecampaign.jpg

Very hard battle against rebels in saxony, all my soldiers with the exception of TWO pikemen were fighting there and losing meant annihilation of my faction, retreating meant 3000 debts and no possibility to recover from them. I won in my 5th attempt...

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/hardbattle.jpg
Special type of titles - originally used by Landsknechts - this one was executioner.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/mercenarytitle.jpg :book:

[YanTraken]

How many days left to release?I`m so excited and nervous so my doctor want me to stop counting,because my hart will not stand it anymore ..hehe

[Radier]

Only a couple of days left Yantraken. ~:cheers:

Ceg: How large will the file be?

[cegorach]

I still don't know Radier :juggle2: :juggle2: :juggle2:

[YanTraken]

That sounds Bad!:)We dont know do we have to throw out one game or clean whole hard disk including windows..heh

[cegorach]

No it won't.

More screens - I am working harder and harder - it won't take much time, because I will starve to death otherwise :dizzy2: :

Covenant Scots replaced Cavaliers in late ( Cavaliers still are available in ECW campaign)

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/covenantarmy.jpg


Pre-battle screen

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/bitwacromwell.jpg

The unit is solely created for MP games - it allows to cheat your opponent by some rubbish infantry pretending to be Husaria - as it was done in reality several times.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/mysteryfakehusaria.jpg

Regards Cegorach :laugh4:

[YanTraken]

Hmm,now You`re talking!
Ceg.You are the best.Using such a simply methods You manadged to present historical true facts such as complicated tactical options!
...and at last normal unit icons.

[Radier]

Wow! Extra armour, extra rank, vs cavallery and shield are seen before battle!

Awesome new feautures! :2thumbsup:

[beauchamp]

Awsome! Counting the days...

[YanTraken]

Wow,what a silence we have.I presume everybody are waiting to see that final Cegorach`s post with link;)
While waiting I try to find an extra abilities of super complicated,extra high level graphic program MS paint.I found that if windows will crash in a proper way(some it`s functions are off,but paint works fine)we can work in paint with layers!:)

[Kepuli]

How many days to go??????:sweatdrop: I hope this weekend..

[Radier]

Give me this god damn mod now, it's holiday dammit!! :2thumbsup: Just kidding...

But it would be nice though. So which country are you going to play first guys?
My choice: Sweden, early era. :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

Ah a release now with this spring waether up here would make my heart warm.

[YanTraken]

" So which country are you going to play first guys?"
I supose I dont have to anwser..hehe

[Radier]

Yantraken: Oh, so you too shall play Sweden? ~;) hehe.

Cegorach: I know you have much to do, but I'm curious. Have you considered adding mission objectives (glorious achivements) for each country in later patch(es)? Or is that impossible? :book:

[YanTraken]

Cetrainly I will try to play Sweden .What achievements do you propose for Your country Radier?

[Radier]

Conquer Denmark, Norway, Scania, Estonia, Finland, Preussia, Pommerania and so on. Maybe build certain buildings in certain provinces, tace certain goals in an limited time, hold Finland... But I don't know what is hard-coded and what isn't...

I am getting tired of drawing maps in Photoshop. I want the mod now. :sweatdrop:
But like Boromir would have said: "One does not simply walk into mordor!"
Guess I just have to be patient... ~:cheers:

[Kepuli]

My first choice will be roundheads, I have a little fixation for english, then I would try Swedish and some middle european faction.. Eras early and late.. It is so sad, that there isn´t Finland as a faction, it would be so nice to conquer swedish, slain the men and keep those Blond hotties as a slaves..:2thumbsup: just joking..

"Keeping Finland" achievent, that is very hard for Swedish, if look at history books:laugh4: .. Sorry, I´m very nasty mood for swedish:), must be those mandatory swedish lessons..

[Radier]

Kepuli we could have held Finland if we only wanted to... I promise.
But the king was like: "Ahh let the russians have this giant, lousy forest, we are outa here!" :laugh4:

Oh, and I have to try the knights on Malta. :2thumbsup:

[Kepuli]

well,maybe you are right Radier, but You lost usf ew times before you lost us finally in 1809 and always in those times You wanted us and our vast forests back when peace treating time came:laugh4: ...

[beauchamp]

Safavids and poles for me!

[beauchamp]

Safavids and poles for me!

[Radier]

Ok today is the day when PMTW is supposed to be released guys. :horn:

:2thumbsup:

Heh, no pressure on you Cegorach, you do a wonderful job!

[YanTraken]

So it`s time?I stoped counting...
I`m so nervous...hope Cegorach will not add something new/big that will change the release date.We have`nt seen him lastly.Mabe he started campaign(for testing) and he can`t stop playing it-because it`s so good!:D

[gugul]

[QUOTE=Radier]
But it would be nice though. So which country are you going to play first guys?
QUOTE]
Moldavia and then Poland and the Ottoman Empire:laugh4:

...can't believe the release is so near:)

[Inal_the_Great]

---HEART ATTACK--- :skull:

[YanTraken]

It wasn`t saturday,so mabe today or monday....tuesday.......alternatively in wednesday;)

[Radier]

Cegorach maybee you can enlighten us so we won't have to check this thread every hour. ~;)

[YanTraken]

Radier,where did You first time heard about husaria?....
Let`s start talking about something for killing time;)

[Radier]

Ok off-topic race for the goal/release. :sweatdrop:
I first thought they were like russians/nomadic people who rode the plains in eastern Europe.
I mixed them up with Cossacks. But my knowledge increased and now I know who they really are. ~:cheers:

:charge: :charge: :charge:

You had any relatives in Husaria Yantraken? I had relatives who fought as merceneries in german and swedish armies. My surname comes from those merceneries. :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

Relatrives with husaria-no(unfortunately:)but my ancestor came from scotland and he fought as a mercenary for the polish king.Here he met his wife,and just like many others foreign mercenaries(german,scotish,wolhynian,serbian etc.) he found his second home on the polish land.
Firs infos.about how You Swedes overused polish hospitablity ;)came from polish film "Potop" about 1655 year.Since then I knew how good Your infantry was,thanks to Gustavus!

[beauchamp]

Great Movie! Im a big fan of the Henri Synkewitz trilogy. There are abunch of half scot-pole immagrants in Minneapolis, and alot of ukraineians, so they always fight with the overwhleming population of swedes.

[SwordsMaster]

Relatrives with husaria-no(unfortunately:)but my ancestor came from scotland and he fought as a mercenary for the polish king.Here he met his wife,and just like many others foreign mercenaries(german,scotish,wolhynian,serbian etc.) he found his second home on the polish land.
Firs infos.about how You Swedes overused polish hospitablity ;)came from polish film "Potop" about 1655 year.Since then I knew how good Your infantry was,thanks to Gustavus!


You already had movies in Poland in 1655? And then someone reinvented it and stole the idea! Damn, life is unfair!

Just joking, btw:2thumbsup:

[Inal_the_Great]

---HEART ATTACK--- :skull:

No sign of Cegorach! :inquisitive: I am starting to get worried... :no:

JK! :laugh4:

[YanTraken]

You already had movies in Poland in 1655? And then someone reinvented it and stole the idea! Damn, life is unfair!

Just joking, btw:2thumbsup:
heh,sorry,my mistake :laugh4:

[cegorach]

THE RELEASED IS DELAYED TO WEDNESDAY !

The reason for it is some serious bug in ECW campaign making it impossible to play in Custom Battles and Multi Player modes. I am giving myself 48 hours to correct.
If I won't be able to correct the error I will release the mod anyway - 3 other campaigns work well together with SP mode in ECW.

The release will be followed ( on Thursday) with very detailed faction and unit descriptions. For now I am slightly updating the online guide so check it please.

Regards Cegorach :book:

[Kepuli]

Eagerly waiting....Three HURRAYS for Cegorach!:2thumbsup: I hope you can fix the bug..

[Radier]

Wednesday it is! I guess I will have to go back to my work then... ~;)

Cool abilities in the online guide btw...

Now get out there and slay the stupid bug. :2thumbsup:

[YanTraken]

Ceg,I propose to use "Raid" spray on this stupid bug."It`ll kill it to the death"~;)

[beauchamp]

Wunderbar!

[Radier]

Cegorach, I was thinking that you maybee could tell us what bug it is if you know. Someone might know the problem, maybee even me (I have modded campaigns before).

Anyway good luck, and maybee I shall stop spamming. :hide:

[YanTraken]

Off Topic!
Help me guys.I need maps of Novogrod and Pskov Republic in XIV century(borders,trade routs etc.).If You have any please let me know!!

[Radier]

Sorry but most of the maps I find is on the city Novgorod or the site is in stupid russian. :furious3:

What do you need the maps for anyway?

Oh and tomorrow is the release! :2thumbsup: Can't wait!

[YanTraken]

release should be Today;)
I need it for my boss who is writing book for nobilitation.
Abaut russian ,I had to learn that language for 2 years and thanks to that I recognise latin letters wrote in cirylica:)
Thank You Radier that You were looking those maps,take care and have a nice play!!!

[Radier]

Ok now I have reinstalled MTW... Just waiting for the release! :2thumbsup:

I hope the bug is solved because the english campaign will be very intersting... :bow:

[cegorach]

All right, I have some strange problems with uploading the file - I have seen it before, but 0.5 kbs is something really amazing.

I will upload it tomorrow, in the morning from an internet cafe so it will be ready to download at 12.00 (middle european time zone).

I also decided to lock the ECW campaign - almost all the files will be included in the install file, but you will not see them. Still in two 14 days time I am releasing a small patch correcting the mistakes you will notice and improving some things ( text files) and finally allowing to play in ECW - I am really interested in fighting in the MP mode this time amd ECW is ideal for it.

So for now have a long sleep, take a bath and something to eat and drink because later you might not want to.

Regards Cegorach :book:

[cegorach]

BTW you might want to download this file today -

http://rapidshare.de/files/17323374/PMTW_MUSIC_PACK_01.exe.html

it is the first music pack, the only one REQUIRED to play the campaign it included the mucic for Tatar and Circassian factions + the 4th european battle music file.

Later music additions will be only optional.

Regards Cegorach

BTW do you recognise this guy ?

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/Inal.jpg :laugh4:

[Radier]

Ok thanks for letting us know Ceg. ~:cheers:

Will try the musicpack now.

I have no idea who that guy is. I would have guessed Inal the Great
but I thought he was carcassian?

[Inal_the_Great]

Well there is no official drawing or photo of Inal Teghen but I found these portraits in a Historical Circassian website.

[cegorach]

So it has begun. Exactly at 10.03 I have started uploading the mod. :balloon2:

[YanTraken]

:sweatdrop: hope it will be all fine.

[Radier]

Finally! :2thumbsup:

Great work!

:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:

[cegorach]

THE DOWNLOAD LINK - STILL I NEED MORE HOSTS FOR BOTH FILES..

http://rapidshare.de/files/17882249/PMTW_1.5_INSTALL.zip.html

:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :juggle2: :laugh4: :dizzy2:

[the tokai]

THE DOWNLOAD LINK - STILL I NEED MORE HOSTS FOR BOTH FILES..

http://rapidshare.de/files/17882249/PMTW_1.5_INSTALL.zip.html

:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :juggle2: :laugh4: :dizzy2:Is that the same link as the one in the downloads thread? Because that one doesn't work for me and this one does.

[cegorach]

YES, the link is the same :2thumbsup:

[cegorach]

Not bad 14 downloads in about 1 hour :2thumbsup:

[the tokai]

YES, the link is the same :2thumbsup:Weird, because if I click the link in the download thread it says "file not found" yet the one you posted here works perfectly fine. It's not really a problem for me but if people only look in the downloads thread and the link doesn't work for them it could be a problem.

[cegorach]

You were right :embarassed: I have just edited the link in the downloads, now it works fine :book:

[Radier]

Ok first impressions comes here. Will play more later. :2thumbsup:

Best mod for MTW. Just my personal opinion; Everyone has different taste.

Awesome units.
The buildingicons really are much better then the first ones.
So many factions to play and every one of them are so different!!

I would also like to point out certain things which you probably allready know.

The orthodox factions have problems with the new cool campaign-pieces (the shield on the left side).
The PMTW maintheme ought to have been included in the musicpack. Now I only hear MTW music and it doesn't fit. Am downloading the maintheme now. :2thumbsup:

But overall a very improved version of PMTW 1.0 which I will play for a long time. Thank you. Will report if I find any bugs.

EDIT: And may I ask where YanTrakens graphics for forts and villages are? They where really good. ~:)

[YanTraken]

They aren`t any of them in the Mod??
I havent downloaded it yet so i dont know:)

I have to wait 60 minutes !!!Are they do not know who I am?:laugh4:

[Radier]

No, not according to what I can see.
I hope Ceg include them in next patch. :2thumbsup:

[beauchamp]

Congrats from me to Cegorach and the entire PMTW team...
I will be playin it for the whole weekend and lookforward to this historical reactment coma...

[axel]

:bow: :bow: Hi first i want to thank you all for this wonderfull mod i have a fue questions becose i am new in this mod sry for that! first one is i see a self destractor is it a dubble click and it will install it self?? second is i see also a map with new panels are they new campains??? or custom battle s and most i intall them aswell to play the mod cane you please explane to me wot to do with them :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: and again to all mod makers you are wonderfull people my compliments to you all :bow: :bow: :bow: :jumping:

[cegorach]

They aren`t any of them in the Mod??
I havent downloaded it yet so i dont know:)

I have to wait 60 minutes !!!Are they do not know who I am?:laugh4:



Yep, I will add the buildings in the small patch, but later we will need redesigned with more modern fortifications and so on.


@Axel

Double click on self installer and a fresh install of MTW VI should do everything - how to install the panels - you have it in the readme.

Finally tou will need the music file as well.




I am updating the guide with the huge list of factions and units in the game.

It will be growing later, but for now I need some holiday without computer or internet.

Happy Eastern !

[cegorach]

92 downloads ! :2thumbsup:

Better than I thought. :dizzy2:

[Radier]

I'm glad to hear that. ~:cheers:

Nice unitguide btw.

[YanTraken]

Ceg.mabe You could create here a Bug Report Topic?:)
Right,that guide is awesome!Now I know why I am always beaten,hehe.
@Radier,check Your PM:).

[hlawrenc]

Take a well earned rest!!!! I have been reading, watching and anticipating since the fall when you first thought it might be out by Christmas This is amazing!

Thank you to all of the folks that were involved in this Mod and especially to you Cegorach1. I am a very very happy camper right now. I know what I will be doing all weekend.

Again thank you all!!!

[YanTraken]

Does anybody know how to stop being excomuniced?^_^

[hlawrenc]

Do what the Pope sez!!! If he sends you warning, back out. Best way has always been if you plan to attach a fellow Catholic, attack a different Catholic faction first, let the Pope send you the warning, back out and be a good boy. You then have 10 years to beat up any OTHER Catholic factions you want and he will not bother you.

[YanTraken]

well,the thing is I defeated the country from which one whole thing started!But the Pope still does not like me;).I get messages that He asks for support.If I help do I return to Catholics again??If so,then how can I support him?Start a war against Turks for exaple?

Bugs founded:
-Rebels were besieging my city.In that province I had troops only in besieged castle.Suddenly The Danes came up ,they beaten rebels and that`s it..fine I think.But in the next round They became my enemies.I managed to repel their assault,but after that battle I get message that THEY won and captured the castle!?!
-Regimental Canons have the same shooting sound like musketeers.But the explosions they make are wonderful!
-and finally the worst thing in previous MTW,and here also.The last man standing from any formation fights alone too long!Even when he`s"running out"he can kill my 2 or more soldiers.Cegorach mabe You could make it to work like in ROME?->When formation runs away it cant kill any enemies,and it dies Very quickly.
That`s all for now.Good Work Cegorach!

[Inal_the_Great]

Since I could not find my Total war CD I will buy it again in a few days and re-install the mod properly.

but so far it works although abit weird with my 1.0 pike and musket mod installed. :dizzy2:

(It is still fun to play!) :2thumbsup:

[hlawrenc]

well,the thing is I defeated the country from which one whole thing started!But the Pope still does not like me;).I get messages that He asks for support.If I help do I return to Catholics again??If so,then how can I support him?Start a war against Turks for exaple?



Van Traken, what faction are you playing and what faction did you defeat? In other MTW games the Pope has favorites even among the Catholics.

On another note, been playing PM now since yesterday (can't stop) but has anyone noticed the assassinations are insane? I built watch towers right off the bat but every strategic agent I build gets knocked off almost before I can put them to use. And if an emmisary goes onto foreign soil he is killed off the next turn. It is a nuisence more than anything else but now it is working on my generals. I am building my own taverns to get spys and assassins of my own just to do counter-spying hoping that will slow it down.

These assassins are almost 100% I haven't had anybody escape yet!

Other than that really interesting mod.

[YanTraken]

I played Poland against that Crusaders in Livonia/Estonia provinces.I`m aware that they were catholics under Pope`s protection but since defeating them I have in all turns unrest in Livonia and Estonia coused by my excomunication.And I wonder how to change this situation?!?

[Radier]

YanTraken maybee if you assasinate the pope who is angry at you helps. :sweatdrop: Or just wait till they elect a new pope.

I have found some small textmistakes which I report later.
Also when you click at an european king's army and hold it to move, it's shield is very weird and you can se a danish shield behind (I played as Sweden).

Other than that I really enjoy this mod! :2thumbsup:

[axel]

Hi good good mod i love it i found a other bug my friend its in the campain NOT in the battle but the campain the russian faction the shields of the russian its not on the pion but it moves a bit from the pion its like you have a pion and a little O next to it i hope it will help you mate

[Radier]

Yes, the bug axel is pointing at is probably the worst right now in the European campaigns.

OT: (If you see this Inal the Great, check your pm).

Edit: Cegorach maybe you want to spread the words of 1.5 release beyond the ORG...
Just a suggestion so people don't miss this wonderful mod.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

[Torin XII]

Hi! This is a great mod, I have only played for a day but I love it. But I have noticed a bug that is really annoying.
In my Babarian states campain i can't move my ships from barbary coast, western miditerrainean or gulf of valencia to Straits of Gibraltar. And when I build a ship in Marocco I couldn't move it to the east. It's like there is a uncrossable border in the Straits of gibraltar to the east.
Apart from this and the other small bugs its really fun to have a new mod to play. Thanks!:shakehands:

[Radier]

Tjena Torin!

The reason for that uncrossable border at Gibraltar is that otherwise
the player and the computer get way to much money due to trade.
Another reason I think is that this makes unrealistical conquests much
harder, i.e. when turks send troops to England.

Cegorach: I formed a national levy as the Austrians in the province
of Austria but I couldnt move it to it's target in Africa. You know what was wrong?
I could just have it standing there and defend when turks attacked...

~:cheers:

[gugul]

Great Job with the mod! finally got a chance to play it and all i can say is that it is a great mod! The long wait was worth it after all.:)

[axel]

Yes mate i got the same bug i am playing the Religious Turmoil campian i got my ships in the straits of gibraltar and i cant move them any more to the east i am playing the dutch:viking:

[streety]

Hi all!

Well, I stopped by again with a few days on my hands and loaded 1.5. I think it looks great. Well done Cegorach! Thanks for crediting my three core unit types but its all the others and your surrounding game that really makes this by far the best MTW mod. And not just in looks - but in content too. And how you constructed all that and involved Yantraken's and many other people's bits and pieces is a massive feat! I'm very impressed.

I had just a little play as the early English. Apart from a unit commander called "!!Stephen!!! could not translate", and noticing the English king's shield twisted 45 degrees when I picked up his map counter, came across no other bugs myself.

Look forward to seeing the new buildings, ECW campaign and mini-patch.
Fabulous work guys!
:2thumbsup:

[beauchamp]

Saalam Aleikum

Again Ceg, amazing work. Im playing as the persians (of course :2thumbsup: ) and ive noticed a few problems and suggestians for the next patch... i can email u like a beta report or whatever...

also, I would like to start plannin for a new PMTW mod for MTW2, even though it hasnt come out yet