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Knight_Yellow
05-11-2004, 08:50
Trailer #4 (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/rometotalwar/media.html?gcst=rometw_tr59.asx)

That should bring up another window with gamespots site and a streaming version of the new video.

You can see horses jumping and guys getting floored....

i swear half way through i was clapping http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

EDIT: 38 views and not 1 comment?

its a new video people im not thinking of the ones posted last week.

it got released today.

Jochi Khan
05-11-2004, 19:24
Hehe...I've seen it too Knight_Yellow.

Fantastic.

....Jochi

The_Emperor
05-11-2004, 20:04
One word... Awesome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Oh man this summer is gonna be long waiting for RTW. I want that game

Oh how CA torture us with yet another vid http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif

King Azzole
05-12-2004, 05:49
im not signing up for that crappy website just to watch that trailer isnt there another way to see it?

PSYCHO
05-12-2004, 15:29
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif Bloody beautiful This is really going to be a masterpiece

Love the eerie Gladiator style music at the beginning

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-13-2004, 19:16
Any other place to download it?

I don't want to register to see just a streem video...

Knight_Yellow
05-13-2004, 19:28
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 13 2004,19:16)]Any other place to download it?

I don't want to register to see just a streem video...
you dont have to register to stream it.

DemonArchangel
05-13-2004, 19:50
Jeeeeeeeeeeeesus Christ http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-13-2004, 19:55
Quote[/b] (Knight_Yellow @ May 13 2004,13:28)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 13 2004,19:16)]Any other place to download it?

I don't want to register to see just a streem video...
you dont have to register to stream it.
Funny Every time I try to view it a registering page appears... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

MiniKiller
05-16-2004, 23:22
same here i want to see it but dont want to sign up for the site, which u have to to view it. ive tried clicking on everything lol

Cebei
05-16-2004, 23:33
I have a feeling that the music is not as good as it is in MTW. Another negative thing is that, like in MTW, when two units charge each other the front line pauses for a second and then starts to push the other unit. I look for more realistic dynamics, like squeezing front lines etc.

Leet Eriksson
05-16-2004, 23:44
I was impressed by how the cavalry preformed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Lazul
05-17-2004, 00:12
Quote[/b] (DemonArchangel @ May 13 2004,13:50)]Jeeeeeeeeeeeesus Christ http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
what ever that dude as to do with it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif


but yeah, luuuuucifeeer that was a nice vid. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-17-2004, 00:26
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 16 2004,17:44)]I was impressed by how the cavalry preformed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Me too. Too impressed. They are OP just like Elephants. Maybe that is just for the sake of cinematics... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

Leet Eriksson
05-17-2004, 06:01
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 16 2004,18:26)]
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 16 2004,17:44)]I was impressed by how the cavalry preformed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Me too. Too impressed. They are OP just like Elephants. Maybe that is just for the sake of cinematics... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif
I think its kinda historically correct,if you take it by napoleonic terms,cavalry when charging stormed through the ranks of troops,and did not stop to melee.

The_Emperor
05-17-2004, 13:49
Quote[/b] ]I have a feeling that the music is not as good as it is in MTW.

The music you hear in the vid sequences IS the in-game music (as is that music from TC) Tell me how can that be worse than MTW's very brief music with long silences?

Sjakihata
05-17-2004, 13:55
can someone upload it so we dont have to register? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif

Swoosh So
05-17-2004, 14:32
Sigh* All this talk of overpowered You havent even played it yet Yes you see elephants smashing through infantry ranks but you dont even know the cost of them, half of the men get back up anyway Skirmishers are whats used to kill elephants not hvy infantry so of course they get slaughtered You try killing an elephant with a short sword As for cav ive not seen any clips of them being overpowered ive seen them charge into almost breaking units and break them which is what id expect.

Kraxis
05-17-2004, 14:39
I don't think that the cavalry will be overpowered...
Yes, they will obviously be strong against the right opponents, but if you have read the account of Yoink then you will notice how cavalry will hurt itself when it attacks the wrong opponents, as opposed to the stop-and-go action of MTW...

But elephants do seem awfully strong. I hope these elephants are just a bit modded.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-17-2004, 16:51
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 17 2004,00:01)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 16 2004,18:26)]
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 16 2004,17:44)]I was impressed by how the cavalry preformed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Me too. Too impressed. They are OP just like Elephants. Maybe that is just for the sake of cinematics... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif
I think its kinda historically correct,if you take it by napoleonic terms,cavalry when charging stormed through the ranks of troops,and did not stop to melee.
No. Not in Roman times in the west. Not before the foot support was invented, was there trully powerfull impact cavalry.

Besides, a spear or pike unit could easily destroy any cavalry unit in those days... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_charge.gif

Kraxis
05-17-2004, 17:35
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 17 2004,10:51)]
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 17 2004,00:01)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 16 2004,18:26)]
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 16 2004,17:44)]I was impressed by how the cavalry preformed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Me too. Too impressed. They are OP just like Elephants. Maybe that is just for the sake of cinematics... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif
I think its kinda historically correct,if you take it by napoleonic terms,cavalry when charging stormed through the ranks of troops,and did not stop to melee.
No. Not in Roman times in the west. Not before the foot support was invented, was there trully powerfull impact cavalry.

Besides, a spear or pike unit could easily destroy any cavalry unit in those days... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_charge.gif
I would disagree there... the Companions were effective shock cavalry. Supposedly their Thessalian allies were as well, but more fleet and light.

Cebei
05-17-2004, 17:44
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ May 17 2004,07:49)]
Quote[/b] ]I have a feeling that the music is not as good as it is in MTW.

The music you hear in the vid sequences IS the in-game music (as is that music from TC) Tell me how can that be worse than MTW's very brief music with long silences?
It is more with the quality of the music than the length of it. I dont think the music grasps the "Roman era" feeling like the same composer managed in MTW.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-17-2004, 18:28
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 17 2004,11:35)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 17 2004,10:51)]
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 17 2004,00:01)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 16 2004,18:26)]
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 16 2004,17:44)]I was impressed by how the cavalry preformed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Me too. Too impressed. They are OP just like Elephants. Maybe that is just for the sake of cinematics... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif
I think its kinda historically correct,if you take it by napoleonic terms,cavalry when charging stormed through the ranks of troops,and did not stop to melee.
No. Not in Roman times in the west. Not before the foot support was invented, was there trully powerfull impact cavalry.

Besides, a spear or pike unit could easily destroy any cavalry unit in those days... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_charge.gif
I would disagree there... the Companions were effective shock cavalry. Supposedly their Thessalian allies were as well, but more fleet and light.
Yes, they were the elite shock cavalry of it's age, but nothing compared to medieval cavalry for the reasons I've pointed out. Their effectiveness wasn't nowhere near the effectiveness of subsequent shock cavalry units, that followed the invention of the foot support (what is the name of the darn thing? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thinking.gif )...

CBR
05-17-2004, 18:33
Foot support? We are not going into the stirrup debate again are we? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif


CBR

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-17-2004, 22:08
Quote[/b] (CBR @ May 17 2004,12:33)]Foot support? We are not going into the stirrup debate again are we? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif


CBR
Finally someone tells me the name http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_jumping.gif

Thanks, CBR Yes, it's the stirrup I was talking about... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif

biguth dickuth
05-18-2004, 12:45
Quote[/b] (CBR @ May 17 2004,20:33)]Foot support? We are not going into the stirrup debate again are we? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif


CBR
Oooohh not the stirrup debate again
Every time someone talks about the cavalry charge, someone will say that it is not strong enough without the stirrup.
There have been talks and talks about this and someone at legiontotalwar had given a link to some crazy reenactor's page who actually experimented in charging with a horse and a lance against obstacles.

His conclusions were that the stirrup adds very little to the charge strength. What matters most was the saddle design. The horned saddle of the gauls (which was later copied by the romans) and some greek saddles of the time gave the rider the ability to charge and smash through opponents without the danger of falling off his horse. So these ancient cavalrymen (like the hetairoi) could be quite devastating when charging.

What made the medieval knights even stronger chargers was their couched lance and their even-more-suitable-for-charges saddle and not the stirrups.

That is my opinion Aymar and i believe it can be backed up with clues. The "no stirrup, no heavy charge" matter is something like a classical prejudice among many military historians but there have been many clues unraveled who show the opposite.

I'm looking at old posts at legiontotalwar but i can't find that link anywhere. Maybe it wasn't in that site but in a relevant post here, in the org....i really can't remember...
Anyway, as soon as i find the link i'll post it here for you to read.
Perhaps Shigawhire can help as i think he has read that page too.

MadKow
05-18-2004, 14:45
I for one am not judging balance issues from looking at trailers... From the Total War Series track record, some balance issues are bound to happen. Some fixes later on too.

But it is my experience as a (single)player that your own enjoyment of the variety of units at your disposal will keep you from going over the top with one certain kind of unit or army.

All i am concerned is that i am presented with a believable depiction of what it may have been like.

I just wish the wait was over.

Kraxis
05-18-2004, 18:00
bigguth dickuth, I believe this is the article how the stirrup is NOT important (http://www.classicalfencing.com/articles/shock.shtml).

I imply everybody to read it, so that we can grind the old 'no stirrups, no charge' belief into the ground. It was invented in the 18th century for crying out loud... A time where they believed they were the best the world had ever seen (that was the mentality of the times), so how could stirrupless cavalry be as good as their own stirrup cavalry? Impossible

CBR
05-18-2004, 19:00
Yes I guess I should have provided the link...didnt bother with it as I already had done it in the Insane numbers of cav thread 2 weeaks ago.

Maybe we can convince Catiline to make it a stickie http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Look at the number of cavalry v infantry and compare them with ancient v medieval battles AND think of how knights and squires were trained from childhood and generally were better equipped compared to medieval infantry.

That will explain the main difference in the role of cavalry on the medieval battlefield.

IIRC there are not many stories of Companions hitting infantry from the front. They normally dealt with enemy cavalry and then hit the infantry in the flank/rear.


CBR

Kraxis
05-18-2004, 20:44
Indeed CBR, they went for the weaker cavalry and/or openings in the formation. Then there they would strike down the lines. But the infantry guys they actually hit were the spearmen. That must mean they charged home, or else the spearmen would not run scared for home.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-18-2004, 22:11
I must humbly present my apologies for such an erroneous statement. The stirrup was essential for the Horse Archer, not for the Shock Cavalry. In face of such evidence, I therefore bow to your superior knowledge, most respected biguth dickuth, Kraxis and CBR... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif

Kraxis
05-19-2004, 13:19
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 18 2004,16:11)]I must humbly present my apologies for such an erroneous statement. The stirrup was essential for the Horse Archer, not for the Shock Cavalry. In face of such evidence, I therefore bow to your superior knowledge, most respected biguth dickuth, Kraxis and CBR... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif
LOL... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Yes, I agree that the stirrups helped the horse archers a lot.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-19-2004, 19:00
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,07:19)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 18 2004,16:11)]I must humbly present my apologies for such an erroneous statement. The stirrup was essential for the Horse Archer, not for the Shock Cavalry. In face of such evidence, I therefore bow to your superior knowledge, most respected biguth dickuth, Kraxis and CBR... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif
LOL... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Yes, I agree that the stirrups helped the horse archers a lot.
Attila's men would agree... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif

Kraxis
05-20-2004, 01:13
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 19 2004,13:00)]
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,07:19)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 18 2004,16:11)]I must humbly present my apologies for such an erroneous statement. The stirrup was essential for the Horse Archer, not for the Shock Cavalry. In face of such evidence, I therefore bow to your superior knowledge, most respected biguth dickuth, Kraxis and CBR... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif
LOL... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Yes, I agree that the stirrups helped the horse archers a lot.
Attila's men would agree... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif
Well if he was standing besides me telling me that I would be very fast to agree... But then again I would agree that the world was flat.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-20-2004, 11:10
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,19:13)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 19 2004,13:00)]
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,07:19)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 18 2004,16:11)]I must humbly present my apologies for such an erroneous statement. The stirrup was essential for the Horse Archer, not for the Shock Cavalry. In face of such evidence, I therefore bow to your superior knowledge, most respected biguth dickuth, Kraxis and CBR... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif
LOL... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Yes, I agree that the stirrups helped the horse archers a lot.
Attila's men would agree... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif
Well if he was standing besides me telling me that I would be very fast to agree... But then again I would agree that the world was flat.
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Huns the first to use stirrups in the West? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

Kraxis
05-20-2004, 15:33
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 20 2004,05:10)]
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,19:13)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 19 2004,13:00)]
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,07:19)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 18 2004,16:11)]I must humbly present my apologies for such an erroneous statement. The stirrup was essential for the Horse Archer, not for the Shock Cavalry. In face of such evidence, I therefore bow to your superior knowledge, most respected biguth dickuth, Kraxis and CBR... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif
LOL... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Yes, I agree that the stirrups helped the horse archers a lot.
Attila's men would agree... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif
Well if he was standing besides me telling me that I would be very fast to agree... But then again I would agree that the world was flat.
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Huns the first to use stirrups in the West? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif
Yes, I think so.

But I was just pointing out that Atilla was a scary guy. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Divine Wind
05-20-2004, 19:29
Wow er woow ..wow wow wow...and wow

Ive been away for a few weeks so i missed this

And well...all i have to say is

WOW

Cant wait to get my hands on a unit of elephants http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-20-2004, 20:58
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 20 2004,09:33)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 20 2004,05:10)]
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,19:13)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 19 2004,13:00)]
Quote[/b] (Kraxis @ May 19 2004,07:19)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 18 2004,16:11)]I must humbly present my apologies for such an erroneous statement. The stirrup was essential for the Horse Archer, not for the Shock Cavalry. In face of such evidence, I therefore bow to your superior knowledge, most respected biguth dickuth, Kraxis and CBR... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif
LOL... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Yes, I agree that the stirrups helped the horse archers a lot.
Attila's men would agree... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif
Well if he was standing besides me telling me that I would be very fast to agree... But then again I would agree that the world was flat.
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Huns the first to use stirrups in the West? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif
Yes, I think so.

But I was just pointing out that Atilla was a scary guy. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Oh, no doubt about that http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_scared.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
05-20-2004, 20:59
Quote[/b] (Divine Wind @ May 20 2004,13:29)]Cant wait to get my hands on a unit of elephants http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
How about 20? That is what everybody will use if they keep them OP http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

Sociopsychoactive
06-10-2004, 23:55
Ah, but you are forgetting the one main DISadvantage of elephants

An elephant does great things, it runs at the enemy, tramples them to mthe sust then when wounded goes into a frenzy and kills anything around it. Unfortunately, it is as likely to do all that to YOU as it is to do it to THEM http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif


Elephants don't recognise unforms, and cannot be led like horses or trained to the same degree, they may be tought not to panic, but that cannot be tought not to stamp on these guys, while they can stamp on those guys. One main rule for elephants, keep em away from your people, therefore their main disadvantage is that they cannot be backed up without endagering your own troops, but without support enemy skirmishers will make umbrella stands out of them.

Beautifully balanced, and if I remember correctly from the E3 review, this has been implemented into the game already http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kataphraktoi
06-11-2004, 05:57
Whats the cost of cleaning elephants in RTW...I mean with all that dung they produce you could it second it as a source of incendiary projectile...a counter for flaming piggywiggies...

Elephant stirrups...

ShadeHonestus
06-11-2004, 11:59
Quote[/b] (kataphraktoi @ June 10 2004,22:57)]Whats the cost of cleaning elephants in RTW...I mean with all that dung they produce you could it second it as a source of incendiary projectile...a counter for flaming piggywiggies...

Elephant stirrups...
LMAO


As for the trailer....I think I wet myself

Rosacrux
06-11-2004, 12:03
Quote[/b] (Sociopsychoactive @ June 10 2004,17:55)]Ah, but you are forgetting the one main DISadvantage of elephants

An elephant does great things, it runs at the enemy, tramples them to mthe sust then when wounded goes into a frenzy and kills anything around it. Unfortunately, it is as likely to do all that to YOU as it is to do it to THEM http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif


Elephants don't recognise unforms, and cannot be led like horses or trained to the same degree, they may be tought not to panic, but that cannot be tought not to stamp on these guys, while they can stamp on those guys. One main rule for elephants, keep em away from your people, therefore their main disadvantage is that they cannot be backed up without endagering your own troops, but without support enemy skirmishers will make umbrella stands out of them.

Beautifully balanced, and if I remember correctly from the E3 review, this has been implemented into the game already http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Actually, that would be no problem if you had an all-elephant army... think of it: What men are the phants going to trample if there ain't no men to trample? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

Go 'phants Then I'll try an all-pigs army, then all-screaming bitches, then all-pink flamingos... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasaryes.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
06-11-2004, 14:16
Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ June 11 2004,06:03)]
Quote[/b] (Sociopsychoactive @ June 10 2004,17:55)]Ah, but you are forgetting the one main DISadvantage of elephants

An elephant does great things, it runs at the enemy, tramples them to mthe sust then when wounded goes into a frenzy and kills anything around it. Unfortunately, it is as likely to do all that to YOU as it is to do it to THEM http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif


Elephants don't recognise unforms, and cannot be led like horses or trained to the same degree, they may be tought not to panic, but that cannot be tought not to stamp on these guys, while they can stamp on those guys. One main rule for elephants, keep em away from your people, therefore their main disadvantage is that they cannot be backed up without endagering your own troops, but without support enemy skirmishers will make umbrella stands out of them.

Beautifully balanced, and if I remember correctly from the E3 review, this has been implemented into the game already http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Actually, that would be no problem if you had an all-elephant army... think of it: What men are the phants going to trample if there ain't no men to trample? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

Go 'phants Then I'll try an all-pigs army, then all-screaming bitches, then all-pink flamingos... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasaryes.gif
...then all scythed amoured Egyptyan triple men chariots... ...then all MC Nubians... (you really can't touch that)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif