Inheriting Egyptian troops/lands without marriage

[Defensor Pacis]

Playing as the Spanish on Early/Hard, I had conquered Egypt and defeated the Egyptian faction. But some years later, the Egyptians reappeared in a massive rebellion and took back some of my lands. I went to bribe some of their armies, and sent in the assassins big time and killed their Sultan - whereupon the rest of his army turned Spanish and I got the lands back. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

I know the emissaries never got to offer their bribes, because they were still 0-star afterwards. And I didn't marry into the Egyptian family so I couldn't have inherited their lands that way.

Has this happened to anyone else? Can anyone think of a reason why the troops should have become yellow rather than gray, i.e. why they should have become Spanish rather than just rebels?

I'm not complaining - it was a nice surprise, and I got about a dozen 5-acumen leaders to boost my income too, plus lots of camels, naphtha and desert archers. But I wonder why this happened.

[Colovion]

I think something similar happened to me - but I dont' remember bribing them, but maybe their leader died while they were holed up in Scotland. There were only like 500 men in Scotland that I was not bothering but wasn't allowing an easy escape either. Suddenly one turn I realized that I owned Scotland again, I had the units as well - not a man lost. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[motorhead]

Just holding a prov one turn gives you a tiny chance that rebels there may decide to join you. The longer you hold a prov, the greater the chance.

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (motorhead @ May 24 2004,04:38)]Just holding a prov one turn gives you a tiny chance that rebels there may decide to join you. The longer you hold a prov, the greater the chance.
This is true and is most likely the explanation. Sometimes rebels just decide to join your faction. Simple as that.

[Defensor Pacis]

Thank you motorhead, that seems likely.

Perhaps they just liked the cut of my jib. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[katank]

how were you doing though?

usually the only reason they join you is that you are doing really badly and the engine feels sorry for you. same as papal donations I think.

must manage economy like a drunkard and generally stink so to get free troops and free cash http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

[Defensor Pacis]

LOL katank, but I was doing very well thank you I owned half the world and had a massive trade surplus with about 600,000 florins by then I think.

[katank]

wow, really? that's a first.

I've only seen free troops as Polish and the economy was down the drain. (note to self: don't play polish when a newb).

[SpencerH]

I've never got free troops, but I did get free money from the Pope despite having the best economy (as the Hungarians). Its cos I'm so pious http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[mfberg]

As Byz I got free troops once from the Spanish, I had just relieved a seige on their fortress in Valencia, and had to pay a ransom to get my troops back, then next turn Valencia turns purple along with all the spanish troops (still had spanish loyalty showing too). Their king hadn't died, so I was very confused.


mfberg

[katank]

really? spanish loyalty shields but now byz allegiance? that's pretty cool.

I'll relieve more sieges if that means I might get the troops for free