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Gawain of Orkeny
05-30-2004, 04:36
Any of you ever see this

TROY (http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/trojan-war/trojan-war-0.htm)


Quote[/b] ] 'Where Troy Once Stood' by I.Wilkens, revised edition; Part II, Chapter 1; page 1 of 22 ]

Troy in England
Homer's Troy or Ilion

The first part of this book led to the conclusion that the Trojan War was certainly not fought in the small plain near Hissarlik in Turkey and that the search of Homeric Troy in Turkey is a blind alley. At the same time many reasons were given for seeking Troy in a country with a temperate climate, and, because of the mention of tides, bordering on the Atlantic. Moreover, since the customs described in the Iliad are typically Celtic, and since Troy's enemies, alternatively called Achaeans, Argives or Danaans, were definitely not ‘Greeks' (as they are unfortunately called in some translations), the search of Troy should focus on regions in western Europe formerly inhabited by Celts. However, these Celts were not, as explained elsewhere in this book, the peoples now living on the western fringes of Europe, but their conquerors originating from the Continent (much like the French owe their name to the Franks, a teutonic people that conquered Gaul in the fifth century AD).

If not for the almost religious belief that Homeric Troy was situated in Turkey, because of its proximity to the Hellespont, Lesbos, Tenedos and Samothrace, and of course also because the story was passed on in ancient Greek, a systematic search for the legendary city might begin by listing the features of the Troad as described in the Iliad (see below). Few of Homer's descriptions bear even the vaguest resemblance to the Hissarlik region, and yet rather than search elsewhere for a region that actually does fit the descriptions, scholars have ascribed the mismatch to the poet's fantasy and his utter ignorance of geography.



And theres lots more check out the link

nick_maxell
05-30-2004, 05:03
lol - if Umberto Eco stumbles over this page - be ready for a follow up of the "Focault pendulum" - that guy doesn t know greek from latin and considering tides was never in the mediterranean area and I won t go into his other speculations.

thanks for the link was a good laugh

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nick

Gawain of Orkeny
05-30-2004, 06:03
Yeah I thought it was funny to but good reading.