you army being bribed...

[makkyo]

In all of my times playing MTW, my armies have never been bribed by the enemy. NEVER I guess that is a good thing but I needed to know if anybody else had this happen to them.

[Medieval Assassin]

Yup, happened to me once
"Bad news One of your generals has changed alegence"
Or something like that

[katank]

happens much more in medmod.

I was booting up a medmod sicilian campaign and saw the message of your general betrayed you or something and was a bit freaked until I saw that the Papacy bribed a lone vanilla spear in Naples.

I kill him with two vanilla spear units of mine at minimal losses and pitied the pope who spent quite a bit of his money bribing a worthless unit.

[Colovion]

Quote[/b] (katank @ May 30 2004,11:17)]happens much more in medmod.

I was booting up a medmod sicilian campaign and saw the message of your general betrayed you or something and was a bit freaked until I saw that the Papacy bribed a lone vanilla spear in Naples.

I kill him with two vanilla spear units of mine at minimal losses and pitied the pope who spent quite a bit of his money bribing a worthless unit.
Sounds like a time to assassinate the Pope for his insolence.

[katank]

assasinate?

nope

I was nice. I let him repeat the idiot stunt until he was broke and I had all of the Holy Lands.

I needed my GA points

I then trashed him and beat him into a tiny castle in the Papal States and finally stopped the siege the year before he was about to die.

whenever my king was about to die (past 60), I send a raiding force of mamluk HAs into the papal states for some target practice. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Tricky Lady]

I once had my lone Byz Inf unit in Lesser Armenia bribed by the http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif Turks (early in the game, sixth or seventh turn). Wasn't too happy. And didn't expect it at all.

[katank]

that's what happens when you give the AI some cash.

it spends it in nonsensical ways.

the lone byz inf is probably a better bribe than a spear but stupid regardless.

now if that was half of all your starting troops sitting in trebizond, that would actually hurt.

[bighairyman]

yeah i got bribed once, you are lucky i have a saved screenshot, But i don't know how to post it, so any help will be appreciated.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-gossip.gif

[katank]

try uploading to the Org filespace and then you can make a link to it.

you can also email it to me and I'll do that for you if you like.

[Tricky Lady]

Quote[/b] (katank @ May 31 2004,01:41)]the lone byz inf is probably a better bribe than a spear but stupid regardless.
Yes, it was a smart move from the AI because it was early in the game and I was campaigning in the west (Serbia, Wallachia).

Of course, a few turns later the Turks attacked the undefended Lesser Armenia. That hurted. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

[Magraev]

I found on higher difficulty you should remove your garrisons from their castles, as if they're bribed they get control of the castle and have to be sieged. I've seen this 4-5 times.

If the army is bribed out in the open you can move in troops on the ground and after you win rejoice that your army has cost significantly less than the bribed one.

[katank]

that's true.

I still rarely see AI bribes although this is a good tip.

@Tricky Lady, could have hurt more if you were staging an invasion and they bribed about half your initial troops.

[scooter_the_shooter]

i am playing the rebels now and i am getting bribed every turn http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[katank]

I remembered my campaign as the rebels.

I totally owned until El Cid in Valencia got bribed.

He was utterfearless, gentle kngihts 9*. Even my peasants werent' routing and starting beating some enemy spears and stuff.

I also got reinforcements routinely from Portugal.

However, Cid got bribed and he put down my portugal force

traitor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif I killed him in every campaign since. I couldn't afford to bribe him early anyhow.

[scooter_the_shooter]

you had a bad cid my was good he was trapped in his catle then spain asulted it he went down fight ing valiantly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif he was one of the last to die

[katank]

awww, maybe I should play another rebel campaign and give el cid another try.

after all, the game wasn't really lost at that point as I've wiped out the Polish in the East and pushed into the Turks nicely.

Also, Scotland was still a perpetualwell spring of troops and so is the HRE when it goes into it bidecade civil war. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[bighairyman]

Quote[/b] (katank @ May 30 2004,21:09)]try uploading to the Org filespace and then you can make a link to it.

you can also email it to me and I'll do that for you if you like.
that's fine, but i want to learn how to do stuff like that.And don't ven have a clue how to do stuff liek that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[katank]

check for the first link at the top of throne room and it tells you how to upload to PBEM filespace.

hitting the link gets you to the org file uploader and then you can get to the patron stories folder and upload your stuff there.

then use the image button when you post to link the image to the post.

[econ21]

I haven't played the VI campaigns much, but AI bribery seemed to occur in every one I tried. Never experienced it in the MTW proper campaigns.

[tombom]

I had an army in Constantinople (I think it had been crusading) change to Byzantine twice http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif . It didn't look like it had been bribed as I got no message. I bribed it back both times, but the first time, after I bribed it back, it just simply changed to Byzantine for absolutely no reason. Weird... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

[bighairyman]

Quote[/b] (katank @ June 02 2004,17:07)]check for the first link at the top of throne room and it tells you how to upload to PBEM filespace.

hitting the link gets you to the org file uploader and then you can get to the patron stories folder and upload your stuff there.

then use the image button when you post to link the image to the post.
thanks, i will go try it now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif

[WorkNeglecter]

Quote[/b] (makkyo @ May 30 2004,21:33)]In all of my times playing MTW, my armies have never been bribed by the enemy. NEVER I guess that is a good thing but I needed to know if anybody else had this happen to them.
yes, I had a lone spear unit in Friesland bribed from me at the start of an HRE game. At least you have a turn to get some troops in there and punish the traitor.

[motorhead]

in my current turk campaign i've seen the english bribe my besieged garrison and twice i've spotted english emissaries on the move to bribe my units. did a quick stack shuffle to get a new stack leader and averted disaster. Granted, the english have grown into one of the larger AI empires i've seen with large navy/army and loads of cash.

[Defensor Pacis]

Question for you all:

Might the AI be trying unsuccessfully to bribe me, without me realising?

I've noticed that some of my generals get 'Man of Principle' virtues, and I wonder whether enemy emissaries are trying to bribe me but failing because my King has such high influence.

Or is this just a random virtue that one gets at the end of turns?

[katank]

man of principle is usually due to failed bribery attempts.

I tend to have assasins stationed throughout my empire and those emissaries bite the dust real fast.

they will also put 4 or so strategic pieces to scout you before an attack and I usually slice them all for good measure. nice practicce for assasins too

[Defensor Pacis]

@ katank - nice to know, thanks (as ever) for the info http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Ironside]

Citera[/b] (Defensor Pacis @ Juni 04 2004,11:56)]Question for you all:

Might the AI be trying unsuccessfully to bribe me, without me realising?

I've noticed that some of my generals get 'Man of Principle' virtues, and I wonder whether enemy emissaries are trying to bribe me but failing because my King has such high influence.

Or is this just a random virtue that one gets at the end of turns?
You'll get a notice about a failed bribe attemt. I've seen it a few times in NTW. A some more succesful. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[motorhead]

I was keeping an eye out for 'man of principle' virtue during the beginning of a turn. Found a unit in tripoli who received it and I know not a single foreign emissary was ever there (i keep watch computer moves on). In current game english have tried bribing several of my stacks so I've kept _very_ close tabs on their emissary movements. So most of those +/- bribe V&Vs are purely random, plus, as ironside pointed out, you get a popup for failed bribes, so you'd know anyway.

[Damianos_sophotatos]

Playing as the byzantines, my army in rhodes was bribed by the spanish http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

They didnt accept though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif