Unit Dresser

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

From this link:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/previews/rometotalwar.shtml


Quote[/b] ]Also not only will there be historical events and individuals, but there are a number of historical battles for the player to choose from a map editor and even a AI script editor and ‘unit dresser’ where the player can design completely new units.


If this is true I might just die

[Rosacrux]

Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ June 03 2004,07:04)]From this link:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/previews/rometotalwar.shtml


Quote[/b] ]Also not only will there be historical events and individuals, but there are a number of historical battles for the player to choose from a map editor and even a AI script editor and ‘unit dresser’ where the player can design completely new units.


If this is true I might just die
Hurray More incentive to include female warriors in the game Go Xena, go Gabriella, watch it girls, you lost your skirts http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Err... ok, ok, this is a fantastic development. We'll be able to remove stupid pharaonic hats from Egyptian archers, the horns from the bull warrior (horns? cornutus iberiensis? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) and similar nonsense.

now, if we remove the dogs, pigs, cats and other pets from the army roster, this might actually be less grewsome than anticipated a game, no? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[The_Emperor]

Good news.

I can see many mods in the works for this.

[biguth dickuth]

Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ June 03 2004,15:42)]Err... ok, ok, this is a fantastic development. We'll be able to remove stupid pharaonic hats from Egyptian archers, the horns from the bull warrior (horns? cornutus iberiensis? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) and similar nonsense.
Cornutus iberiensis?
Now that might give us a clue about what their wifes were doing when these guys were away, making war... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[Rosacrux]

Quote[/b] (biguth dickuth @ June 03 2004,08:21)]
Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ June 03 2004,15:42)]Err... ok, ok, this is a fantastic development. We'll be able to remove stupid pharaonic hats from Egyptian archers, the horns from the bull warrior (horns? cornutus iberiensis? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) and similar nonsense.
Cornutus iberiensis?
Now that might give us a clue about what their wifes were doing when these guys were away, making war... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif
Another indication that the slogan "make love, not war" is an ancient invention and was the motto of every soldier's woman from the dawn of history http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[nightcrawlerblue]

Imagine the female barbarian mods... Uh I mean imagine how cool we could make our soldiers Uh yeah... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-embarassed.gif

[The Wizard]

Hum... flying hammer-wielding Parthian gryphons here I come http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I can re-skin all of my units as imperial stormtroopers

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2004,18:07)]I can re-skin all of my units as imperial stormtroopers
Whaaa?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ June 03 2004,20:49)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2004,18:07)]I can re-skin all of my units as imperial stormtroopers
Whaaa?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Star Wars-Total War It'll be brilliant

[hundurinn]

Quote[/b] ]Star Wars-Total War It'll be brilliant
OOOO can't wait to play that one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Monk]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2004,16:35)]
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ June 03 2004,20:49)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2004,18:07)]I can re-skin all of my units as imperial stormtroopers
Whaaa?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Star Wars-Total War It'll be brilliant
Finally, the jedi Generals will be in context http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Monk @ June 03 2004,22:04)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2004,16:35)]
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ June 03 2004,20:49)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2004,18:07)]I can re-skin all of my units as imperial stormtroopers
Whaaa?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Star Wars-Total War It'll be brilliant
Finally, the jedi Generals will be in context http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
Damn right I wonder if I could get Darth in as a Kensai type thing?

[TigerVX]

There is a thread on this on TWC right now. I don't think the unit dresser will effect the Campgien or the Custom Battles, you can only make units for specific Historical Battles and Campgiens in their oppropriate editors. Still, I can't wait Jaavilen men on Elephants, and don't get me started with some LOTR battles I want to recreate (Battle of Daglord plain for one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ) I believe that we will be able to use existing parts from RTW units (Helmut, Head, Weapon, Body, Legs, Arms) And miz and match them in a new unit.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (TigerVX @ June 03 2004,17:14)]There is a thread on this on TWC right now. I don't think the unit dresser will effect the Campgien or the Custom Battles, you can only make units for specific Historical Battles and Campgiens in their oppropriate editors. Still, I can't wait Jaavilen men on Elephants, and don't get me started with some LOTR battles I want to recreate (Battle of Daglord plain for one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ) I believe that we will be able to use existing parts from RTW units (Helmut, Head, Weapon, Body, Legs, Arms) And miz and match them in a new unit.
With CA's incorrections it should be compulsory to have a Full Game Editor (units, stats, strat map, battle map, etc...)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[Cebei]

Yummy, I cant wait to draw my sipahis' djamoka moustaches for my MTW mod for RTW..

[Monk]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ June 03 2004,18:21)]
Quote[/b] (TigerVX @ June 03 2004,17:14)]There is a thread on this on TWC right now. I don't think the unit dresser will effect the Campgien or the Custom Battles, you can only make units for specific Historical Battles and Campgiens in their oppropriate editors. Still, I can't wait Jaavilen men on Elephants, and don't get me started with some LOTR battles I want to recreate (Battle of Daglord plain for one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ) I believe that we will be able to use existing parts from RTW units (Helmut, Head, Weapon, Body, Legs, Arms) And miz and match them in a new unit.
With CA's incorrections it should be compulsory to have a Full Game Editor (units, stats, strat map, battle map, etc...)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
Thats the best idea for RTW i've heard in a long time...

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Monk @ June 03 2004,18:33)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ June 03 2004,18:21)]
Quote[/b] (TigerVX @ June 03 2004,17:14)]There is a thread on this on TWC right now. I don't think the unit dresser will effect the Campgien or the Custom Battles, you can only make units for specific Historical Battles and Campgiens in their oppropriate editors. Still, I can't wait Jaavilen men on Elephants, and don't get me started with some LOTR battles I want to recreate (Battle of Daglord plain for one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ) I believe that we will be able to use existing parts from RTW units (Helmut, Head, Weapon, Body, Legs, Arms) And miz and match them in a new unit.
With CA's incorrections it should be compulsory to have a Full Game Editor (units, stats, strat map, battle map, etc...)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
Thats the best idea for RTW i've heard in a long time...
I've made a poll to discuss this a couple of months ago. I'll try to get the link for you...

[Duke John]

Units are made out of polygons on which a texture is put. This texture covers the unit from toe to top, it is not made from parts. So I am 99% sure that the game doesn't let you decide on which helmet or underwear you want your new to have.
What you probably are able to do is to select a homemade texture (which are just plain flat graphics) which will then be applied on the polygons.
I can only hope that the unit dresser also lets us change the polygons otherwise we will still be severly limited in creating new units, perhaps even more then with M:TW.

If you want to understand this better and perhaps train yourself in texturing then you can look up skinning (textures are called skins in FPS) tutorials for First Person Shooters, such as Quake, or Unreal Tournament.

Cheers, Duke John

[Omegamann]

Well I doubt that the Unit Dresser will be a 3D Modelling Application or a Texturedrawingtool.
I guess that its more of a gimmic to let you combine different unitpieces into a selfmade new unit.
And then maybe choose from a couple predefined textures. (in one RTW movie I saw a unit changing textures from a naked upper body to an armored one (probably displaying armor rating)

Actualy in most 3d games units are constructed out of different body parts.
The Unit Dresser might be something like the armor creator used in the Neverwinternights Toolset.
There you could "dress up" a character with different body bits and later export the whole as one armor.

The 3D moddeling and texturing should an hopefully will be done in the standard applications (like 3dsMax, Lightwave, Gmax).
What CA should provide for however is a good support for conversion and import of models into the game.

Keep in mind that features like the Unit Dresser are aimed at the casual player, the modding side of things will be quite another matter.

[Leet Eriksson]

Very niceIf there is darkage-esque armour,i can make historical battles,with armies like arabs,byzantines,visigoths,franks....etc.Might be interesting.

[hoom]

Quote[/b] ]in one RTW movie I saw a unit changing textures from a naked upper body to an armored one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-speechless.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif what movie?

[Swoosh So]

i bet this is one of the features that doesent make it into the final release.

[scooter_the_shooter]

well that will be no fun if that happens. you people are all negetive latley look on bright side of things

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (ceasar010 @ June 06 2004,09:16)]well that will be no fun if that happens. you people are all negetive latley look on bright side of things
No wonder we are, with all the sh** that has come our way in these last couple of days... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-rolleyes.gif

[Omegamann]

Sorry I cant find the movie with the armor display anymore (I thought it was one of the interviews but no luck there)
I am almost certain I saw this:
A unit with a greek hoplite helmet standing with an naked upper body close up.
Then the same unit (the same helmet) with what appeard to be leather upper body armor.
I certainly hope that I wasnt hallucinating http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
Maybe it wasnt even a movie but just two pictures.