Help needed with new faction creation!

[buujin]

Hi there ,
ive basicly been trying to add a new faction for multi-player using ex_starkhorns very helpful guide , however my new faction doesnt seem to appear
when i start a custom game. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I think ive edited all the right fields but to avoid difficulties i gave all the factions "MINOR" label as it wont be used for singple player campaign and ive seen this work in other startpos files.

I was wondering if any of you vastly knowledgeable modders out there would be able to help me out , if u need more information i will make a list of all the fields ive edited but the chances are im just doing somthing silly so ill wait for any sort of reply first. cheers

[tombom]

Originally I thought that minor was the problem, but I tested it and its not. Shows how knowledgable I am....
It could be something really silly like creating a new campaign, putting the faction in there and then choosing the wrong campaign, but i doubt it. It would help to post the whole startpos file on the forums or email it to me at petaparsonsATsupanet.com (replace at with @). It's quite hard to check without looking at it.

[buujin]

thanx for your reply tom, i will do that now .
the startpos file will be attached to the email. :)

[Kaatar]

I don't know much about faction creation but do you have your faction in this part of DEFAULT_FACTION_SPECIFIC?:

@["custom_battle_menu_factions"]
@{"Rebel"}
@{"Almohad"}
@{"Byzantine"}
@{"Danish"}
@{"Egyptian"}
@{"English"}
@{"French"}
@{"German"}
@{"Italian"}
@{"Polish"}
@{"Russian"}
@{"Spanish"}
@{"Turkish"}
@{"Aragonese"}
@{"Burgundian"}
@{"Golden Horde"}
@{"Hungarian"}
@{"Novgorod"}
@{"Papal"}
@{"Sicilian"}
@{"Swiss"}
@{"Your faction here"}

I don't know if this is the problem but it's worth checking out.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

[buujin]

yeah :| unfortunatly i have done that already
ive also edited the loc/eng/names.txt

really strange.

but thanx for your response anyway dude :)

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Its really impossible to guess where you might have gone wrong. I've been there and done that mate so many times. Best bet is to go over it again and see where you went wrong.


Do look at the guides because they are good at rooting the problem out. Good luck with it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasaryes.gif

[Myrddraal]

Quote[/b] (Kaatar @ June 05 2004,15:13)]I don't know much about faction creation but do you have your faction in this part of DEFAULT_FACTION_SPECIFIC?:

@["custom_battle_menu_factions"]
That shouldn't cause the faction to dissapear, only for the name to be somethink like your_faction Lable does not exist

[Kaatar]

Relax. I'm just throwing out suggestions.

Okay. I just made a startpos file and put all of the new faction bits and the faction showed up on the custom battle screen.

Could I have a look that the startpos file of yours?

[buujin]

yes kaatar i would be very grateful if u did

if u give me ur email i will send it to ye
or over msn messenger if u have it

mine is andyt_bo@hotmail.com

thanx

[starkhorn]

Which stage of the document are you currently at ?

[buujin]

ive finished it completely as far as i know ,
but the new faction just refuses to show up

has anyone ever had this problem before ?
im sure most things would simply create an error but this just doesnt do anything.

ive been over the startpos about 5 times now and cant find anything ..

[starkhorn]

Ahh hang on. You mean the faction doesn't show work in custom battles then and not the campaign map ?
If so try the below thread. Read my 2nd post where I had a similar problem and read Ithaskar's replied which solved it for me.

Unsure if that helps. Note;- my guide was not written to add factions to work in the custom battle mode....only for the campaign map.

Cheers
Starkhorn

http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....;st=175 (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=26;t=10129;st=175)

[buujin]

do u mean this bit ?



Quote[/b] ](1) In custom battles I can't use many units at all. Now I've changed the unit prod file and I can build those buildings and train those units no problem. So I don't know what I've forgotten to make it work in custom battles. I saw that you had the same problem ithaskar but I didn't really understand the solution.

because, im not sure if that helps me..

i mean the faction itself doesnt show up at all,
theres nothing there after the sicilians which is where it should be , no sheild, no name, nothing.

i think i know pretty well how the unit prod works
and i have the units specified for custom battles , tho i dont actually think that would effect whether my faction would actually appear because surly it would be there and just not have any new units, or at the worst have no units at all.

Ive think making a startpos to work for custom battles and multi player rather than campaigns is a lot simpler which is why im trying it , some fields i know dont have to be edited.
For an example of this i recommend MizuCBR's Community mod .
http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....y319957 (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=18;t=18739;st=0;&#entry319957)

if anyone would be so kind to have a small look at my startpos file i would be incredibly grateful :)

[Myrddraal]

Quote[/b] (buujin @ June 07 2004,16:59)]if anyone would be so kind to have a small look at my startpos file i would be incredibly grateful :)
Why don't u post a copy of it here, so we can all have a look http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

[buujin]

the text file is too large, like 2000 chars too big for a post or somthing , is there another way i can do it ?

[Myrddraal]

Didn't think about that.

U could always find somewhere to upload it and post a link to it.

[buujin]

The problem has been solved.

I didnt realise there was actually a limit on the amount of factions allowed in a custom or mp battle , or i thought it was somwhere in the thirties.

Id like to thank kaatar for all his help we spend almost 3 hours on msn trying to work it out, he is an excellent modder and a great assistance in times of trouble as i found out.

thanks all

buu

[Kaatar]

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