your biggest kill/death ratio

[Ragss]

Im playing italian expert in medmod, 95% of my battles thus far have been extremely hard fought with only about 2:1 ratio. But yesterday the danes invaded via the sea with 3400, including many vikings. I defeneded with 1100, and with the way my other battles went, I thought I was going to get schooled. But, apparently, I underestimated the effect artillery can have. Long story short (I say that a lot...) I got 2000 some odd kills and, get this, only 34 casualties hahahaahah.

Is there some sort of moral penalty for invading via the sea? Or maybe their general sucked...I dunno, it was awesome.

anyways, im curious to see others. I know a lot of you have had the luck of defending over a bridge against the hordes...

[nick_maxell]

hmm - vanilia MTW attacking valencia outnumbered 3:1- single bridge but trebuchet on hand - never thought the arty would hit anything but it worked wonders in combination with my arbs - the rebels were pulp when I finally crossed the bridge for some hth - ended up 20-30 for 1500 killed/captured

[solypsist]

with the right army defending a bridge, i usually rack up incredibly high casualties. the problem is that i tend to retire missile units as soon as they run out of ammo in order to bring on reinforcements, so i never get to see their kill numbers. which is unfortunate.

the best total numbers have been when i defended against the mongol horde, the turn it appeared - i was ready and waiting. took out over 8000 (the rest of the 15000 army appeared and then routed away before coming into contact) enemy and lost a little over 2000.

[Medieval Assassin]

Just today, Me: 4 pav ab
1 Unit pikemen
2 Rus spearman
2 Longbows

Im not quite sure what they had, MAA and spears and some Cav about 1300 men or so

I killed around 950... Lost like 2, the pavs ate them from afar, and they tried to flank me, into my pikes...
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[WorkNeglecter]

Quote[/b] (solypsist @ June 07 2004,02:38)]the problem is that i tend to retire missile units as soon as they run out of ammo in order to bring on reinforcements, so i never get to see their kill numbers. which is unfortunate.
You can look at the log file, each unit's kills are listed (including friendly fire casualties).

[Ironside]

Citera[/b] ]with the right army defending a bridge, i usually rack up incredibly high casualties. the problem is that i tend to retire missile units as soon as they run out of ammo in order to bring on reinforcements, so i never get to see their kill numbers. which is unfortunate.


Yes, check the logfiles but I think it's around 250-300 tops, maybe up to 350 but that's uncertain.

I had a crossbow (modded in them in early) with 269 kills (60 men) on a bridge battle, it was one of those maps were you can deploy your archers on the side of the bridge you know like this.

---------------- XX-the bridge and XX is your main army.

................ some land part
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA your archers

[cutepuppy]

113/1, attacking a bridge with serpentines, pav arbs, CFK's and jinetes (for capturing routers).

[Aelwyn]

2400 kills, about 79 losses iirc. I don't know what happened, was just a normal looking battle and turned into a bloodbath as I always execute my captures.

[Ironside]

Found the logfile for the last battle I mentioned.
2100 kills, 80 losses (20 of friendly fire) and this in early with poor troops. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif
Lost 54 men in one unit of Muwahid foot (modded to 80).

One archer had 110 kills and two desert archers 99 and that crossbow unit with 231 (and gained 1 valour http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Ok I remembered wrong not 269 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif so 300 kills is max for an arb. And a valour 0 catapult killed 34 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif and gained 1 valour.

Ok I'm done better but this one was quite good so ok it's my best battle for while.

[ah_dut]

I've got 1000 kills for no replies and it wasn't a bridge battle it was a valor 30 Katank http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[katank]

LOL

I love gunpowder.

I had a High Aragonese army of roughly 1k defending against 2500+ Huns.

I had 6 demiculvs and 2 handguns and 2 pav arbs.

my three CKs racked up over 700 killed/captured a piece and I lost only about a dozen men to friendly fire.

it's true that the Huns were low morale but it was just funny seeing them not even managing to make proper melee contact before routing.

[Ragss]

that battle I was talking about wasnt a bridge battle, btw. And the danes invaded that same province 2 more times, both times I schooled them, though a little less completely. That single catapult is 6 valour now, and my king is an expert defender hehe.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

1200+ killed, 1 lost.
Bridge battle in NTW.
-Capo

[Mablung]

VI campaign as the Vikings, rebels appeared - 1000 of them. One unit of 58 huscarles. Killed around 600 men, lost 1. They were about valour 10 IIRC and the enemy had 1 armoured spear, 3 vanilla spears, 6 peasants.
Best out-of-the-box unit: 15 valour Ktanks I mean hell, no fighting or anything, must have practiced damn hard

[Seven.the.Hun]

Ten to one on a great day, perhaps worse for the enemy, i forget exactly, but about that for a battle...'not a peasant massacre' although those are nice too, more corpses...

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[mfberg]

1 unit of joms vs 3 stacks of rebels (4800)

66 joms died, 2400 rebels (I would have done better, but I left the computer for awhile and my joms stood in the open in archer range for awhile.

[jadast]

As Turks I had 6 horse archers faced with Egyptian force over 2k of almost exclusive infantry. My plan was to wait at the edge of the map, shoot them as they approached and withdraw. Fortunate shot to kill enemy general so I charged. Entire army routed. Chased them across Syria and waited for their reinforcements to turn and run. Total losses less than 10 men. My total kills were around 30 - until time to kill prisoners. I love desperate battles against impossible odds that turn on a fluke happening.

[The_678]

My very best slaughter was in the very first game i ever played. I was ther Germans and was conquering all of the steppes. I had an army of 16 units of royal knights (early) with an amazing general. I had a peasant rebellion of thousands of peasants. IN the end the number were something like 3000 killed and 50 lost. It was unbeilable. I then kept stting taxes very high with no garrisons and pretty much repeated this battle a ton of times. It was so fun. By the end of this series of peasant massacres i had a 9 star general with all the good general things (expert defender, attacker, and against all odds and all the prisoner killing ones, butcher and the other one) He started off as a 3 star general http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

I've never been able to repeat it but it was sooo fun.

[Seven.the.Hun]

ok, new one...
took 80 cav dudes up against 2514 mostly arab urban militia dudes, and a couple of ghulams, expecting to take many down with me and die, and i actually won the battle, killed about 670 and the same in prisoners,
granted i had some really really elite dudes

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[-Amon-]

ok i found this screen from history..i suppose that i have replay of this..look at :

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Amon_Killratio.jpg

[Ragss]

were those 800 other kills all arrow kills you cycled out?

[-Amon-]

Quote[/b] (Ragss @ June 10 2004,04:47)]were those 800 other kills all arrow kills you cycled out?
yes,IIRC...and all prisoners captured by cav. and jhi

[Axeknight]

Best kill ratio was as Byz attacking revel Finland. I used a unit of Byz lancers, my 3 treb archer units, and a byz inf unit. All the rest of the stack did was move forward threateningly. Killed or captured 750-or so, lost 3 treb archers.

Favourite battle was my defence of Aquitaine as English, around 1300. Outnumbered 2:1, lost 320, killed 1428 Spanish (killed prisoners).

[Defensor Pacis]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif Spare a thought for the mothers of the poor dead soldiers you are all so callously laughing about. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif



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[alman9898]

I killed like 1300 spaniards and lost 88 of my men on easy, ntw... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

but on normal, my friend and I slaughtered an egyptian army... some 1500 kills to 72 deaths.

[NewJeffCT]

I think my best kill ratio came against a respawned Papacy rebellion. They had a whole host of chivalric knights, royal knights and halberbs, along with a few urban militia & spearmen. Luckily, all low valour. (not counting the difficulty level)

I was defending as the Italians (I got sick of constant crusades going through my high zeal lands and sucking up my gold armor pikemen, swiss pikemen, swiss halberds and gothic knights.) and had 4 units of Pavise Arbs lined up in a row, 4 units of Italian Infantry behind them, 2 units of Swiss Pikemen on the ends of the row of Italian Infantry, 2 Gothic Knights and 2 Mounted Sergeants on the flanks, and I think I had a Royal Knight general & a Chiv Man at Arms unit in the middle.

My infantry never got involved. The Arbs just mowed down the waves of Knights, who would run away, regroup, and then come back to get mowed down again. The low morale halbs were soon scared off by the retreating knights and the only troops I lost were mounted sergeants & gothic knights who ran down routers. I got over 1,500 kills/captures and lost only about a dozen. Next time around, they brought demi-culverins, and I lost a few more, but it was maybe 1,300 to around 100.

Another time, in my first game in Expert, I was the English and defending a hill against a much larger force of invading Turks. I had several units of longbowmen on the hill behind some billmen. I used some feudal knights & a merc unit of mounted crossbows on the flanks and just annihilated the Turks. Not as one sided as the Papal rebellion, but I got well over 5,000 Turks and lost less than 500. (I increase ammo for ALL missile units, so my longbows had 48 arrows each, I think)

[Sun Tzui]

Just Yesterday, BKB's Early Supermod, me as the Papacy, AI as Spanish.

Spanish Invaders - 7500
Papal Troops - 4500

At the end of the Battle, some 1300 Spanish lied dead on the field, with only 30 or so Papal soldiers dead God was on our side http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

My General got the skilled defender for this one

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[RisingSun]

12 units of feudal knights. 2000 peasants. You do the math.

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[Kaiser of Arabia]

My worst one was storming a castle in NTW. I first created a breech with my artillery, and then sent in the Forlorn Hope (i.e. Militia, NTW Peasants) which got slaughtered. like 20 survived out of 400. Also, my allies were slaughtered. Then I sent in my infantry which had alot of causualties, but I finally defeated the french.
Killed 200 or so, lost almost 2000.
-Capo

[Forward Observer]

I've had quite a few 20 to 1 kill ratio battles and a few
25 or 30 to 1, but my absolute best was a defense by the English against the Almohads

I had invaded Iberia and was rolling along pretty well.
I had just take a central province unopposed, and thought that it was just going too easy. On the next turn the Almohads counter attacked with an army of about 2400 to my army of 1400.

I had not paid much attention to the make up of this army and too my dismay I saw that it was almost entirely missile troops. I think I only had 5 or 6 units of foot troops and the rest were archers, longbowmen, and crossbowmen of several varieties. My commander was a single knight, and I had no other cavalry.

My starting position on the map sucked too. There was no good high ground in the starting circle. I needed a big hill badly. However, there was one steep hill on my side of the map, but it was almost at the opposite corner of my starting position just in back of a small woods.

I placed my army at the edge of the starting circle as close to that corner as possible, clicked start, and force marched them to that hill.

It was pretty crowded on that hill but it was also quite steep. I had just gotten my last troops positioned as the Almos broke out of the woods at the foot of the hill. Of course they had to break formations coming through the woods
and this really worked to my advantage.

I put about half of my archers on hold fire to conserve ammo and I had the infantry behind the firing archers to cut down on friendly losses.

It was an absolute slaughter. The Almohads just could not get up that hill intact. Their general was one of the first casualties to the missile fire. Once or twice a few stubborn Almohad militia got within 50 feet or so of my lines, but they alway broke at the last minute from the withering fire. Most of the time they just milled around at the bottom of the hill just soaking up my missile fire.

Of course after the initial army broke their reinforcements came on piecemeal and were slaughtered like the rest. I never chased, but just held my ground. When I was sure the last unit had broken, I let my single knight chase the routers completely across the map.

Final tally was was just over 1100 killed and about 50 captured--all with 0 losses for me.

Man, I wish I had saved that battle.

[zelda12]

This was my best battle I was the French and I was invaded by the English in flanders. Unfortunately for me I only had thirteen units of chivalric knights gold weapons and armour on huge unit size so 80 in each as you may of guessed defending with knights is not the best of ideas. The enemy was attacking with somewhere in the region of 4,000 men.

When they attacked fate was smiling on me, they failed to have any pikes billmen and only two units of long bowmen in their starting line up. As well as that the dice where in my favour as the ground was virtually flat with no major wooded areas apart from where I was, I had a large hill with dense forest on the top. I deployed all my knight units but two and the generals unit in the woods to conceal them.
This meant that when the enemy came on all they could see was three units of knights. So they impetuosly advanced towards me. Just before they reached the bottom of the hill I charged my three units down the hill into the centre of the enemy line which consisted of mainly chivalric men at arms. My three units fought their way throught he enemy line and rode off a ways followed by the bulk of the enemy army. Then I revealed my masterstroke i advanced the other ten units out of the woods and put them into a walk towards the enemy on the plain below.

By the time the enemy realised what was happening my knights were in the charge and practically unstoppable to their credit the majority of their army didn't flee staight away but fought on for a little while before breaking and running then it was a just amatter of hunting down the survivors and destroying any reiforcements that came onto the field. By the time I had captured about 1000 prisoners they just gave up and fled the field.

In the end I had killed around 2,500 men, not including prisoners, whilst taking only 72 casualties.

[pyhhricvictory]

Last night as the mighty Piemontese in NTW. In a series of battles against the Austrians and rebels, when I attacked the rebels in Naples, I used an overwhelming artillery barrage to kill 768 rebels and lost 8 men while running down the retreating infantry. Comes out to almost 100/1 but it was rebels so it really doesn't count for much. The next turn, the Austrians invaded my capital with 4600 infantry and cavalry against my 3200 brave little men. I put two units of canister on a forward hill backed by 3 line infantry and two 8 pounders on the top of the hill. The rest of my initial army, my king, 4 more 8 pounders and four infantry were at the end of a long valley that the Austrians would have to walk down to attack me. The last unit was grenadiers and were sitting on my left flank in the woods to keep that side guarded. The Austrians moved towards my canister and infantry so all of my 8 pounders opened up on them while they could. They reached the bottom of the hill and the canisters let loose and dropped almost whole units at a time (God love those little things) the Austrians kept coming and I kept mowing them down. They did send a few units to my left and center which were mowed down by a constant artillery barrage, except the ones that butchered my grenadiers. They actually engaged my main line and were held long enough for reinforcement cavalry to be brought on and sweep them up. The total was 3800 Austrians dead, 200 captured and I lost almost 400 brave Piemontese. The canisters are one of the best defensive weapons in that mod. When I first started using them, I played a custom battle over a bridge and had two canisters defending the bridge backed by Jaeger and light infantry, none of the enemy soldiers ever crossed the bridge, I killed almost 1000 men and did not lose a man.

Sorry for the length of the post.

Just in case you were wondering, both units of canister were V10 after the slaughter (each 5 man unit had 1000+ kills)

[Kaiser of Arabia]

hey beat this.
Bridge battle, NTW me (brits) vs French Austrians Polish and More French me with 5 caniste4r 5 12lbrs 5 rifles they with militia
Kills 11355 Deaths 7

[Kaiser of Arabia]

What, no one can beat it?
-Capo

[ah_dut]

well my castle in Kiev versus the GH something like 15,000 dead on 20 of mine. Didn't beat you Capo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[HicRic]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif I haven't even SEEN that many troops before. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

...then again, I've only really played Shogun. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Only just started playing MTW. That's a really impressive kill ratio, Caporegime1984, and so is yours, ah_dut. In fact, many of them are very good. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Quote[/b] (ah_dut @ June 23 2004,11:48)]well my castle in Kiev versus the GH something like 15,000 dead on 20 of mine. Didn't beat you Capo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
If you didn't beat mine, then it must have been more like 1500 dead, not 15000.
It was a custom battle on a Bridge with Napolionic Total War
(www.thelordz.co.uk)
I'll see if I can recreate (I didn't get a replay http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif )
And don't expect to see that unless you face at least 4 factions at once.
Thanks
-Capo

[Gith]

Best kill ratio was around 246 to 1. I had a nice battle against the almohads as the germans. Just lined up behind the spearmen, stacked about 6-7 units of crossbowmen/pav arbalesters, when they ran out of ammo, withdrew them and brought more in.

The reason the casualties were so low would be because the almohads never actually engaged. They ran up, got shot, routed, came back, shot up, etc....

I think it was 492 to 2.

Craziest battle was 3900 vs 600, but I think I've mentioned that before.

I'm a huge fan of the battles that shouldn't be won, but are by some wonderful fluke, or by just plain down and dirty killing. Sometimes I get real proud and teary eyed when I see a unit of Swabian swordsmen stay in the thick of it killing until the last man drops.

[dessa14]

5000 to 0
one group of polish retainers.
5000 peasants.
thanks, dessa

[amir]

100:0

200 chivalaric knights and 200 longbows vs 400 peasnts, the rest fled http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[ah_dut]

Quote[/b] (Caporegime1984 @ June 24 2004,00:07)]
Quote[/b] (ah_dut @ June 23 2004,11:48)]well my castle in Kiev versus the GH something like 15,000 dead on 20 of mine. Didn't beat you Capo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
If you didn't beat mine, then it must have been more like 1500 dead, not 15000.
It was a custom battle on a Bridge with Napolionic Total War
(www.thelordz.co.uk)
I'll see if I can recreate (I didn't get a replay http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif )
And don't expect to see that unless you face at least 4 factions at once.
Thanks
-Capo
it was on easy and i had modded in JOMS VIKINGS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif SAP mercs also work magic http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I got a really good replay of what I like to Call Col. Piazza's last stand, it's a brige battle where I have 588 men (500 rifles and 48 Canister and 40 12lb cannons) against 4 full (16 unit) armies made up completly of 200 man militia units. I lost (I ran pretty much out of ammo and ordered a massive charge), and I lost every singe last man, but I killed 12448 men (if my meomory serves me correctly, that is. I could be off by 50 or so men,) I have the replay if anyones interested