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Kaatar
06-07-2004, 20:23
I have a question.
These belong to Catholic factions
//CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST_CRUSADER
//CATHOLIC_EXPANSIONIST
//CATHOLIC_NAVAL_EXPANSIONIST
//CATHOLIC_ISOLATIONIST
//CATHOLIC_TRADER
//CATHOLIC_CRUSADER_TRADER
//CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE_CRUSADER
//CATHOLIC_DEFENSIVE

These to Orthodox
//ORTHODOX_EXPANSIONIST
//ORTHODOX_STAGNANT
//ORTHODOX_DEFENSIVE

and these to Muslim
//MUSLIM_EXPANSIONIST
//MUSLIM_PEACEFUL
//MUSLIM_DEVOUT

but what about these?
//POVERTY_STRICKEN
//DESPERATE_DEFENCE
//CLOSE_TO_SUPPORT_LIMIT
//POPE
//BARBARIAN_RAIDER
//REBELS

Also, what happenes if I gave a Catholic faction a Muslim one? Do they go screwy?

Thanks

Xiphias
06-07-2004, 22:02
Well part (or all?) of what they do is determine how likely the AI is to build stuff.

I'm not sure whether the AI would cheat or not (muslim AI building churches) but I shouldn't think it would screw it up too much.

Barbarian Raider is the Hoard and I think pope gives the power to excommunicate. Rebels seems rather obvious.

Kaatar
06-07-2004, 22:14
Yeah but could barbarian raider be given to a catholic faction? I've given it to one before and they didn't act differently at all. If they don't change, what is the default they're going to?

Seven.the.Hun
06-07-2004, 22:25
yes, this is a good question, as i wonder how much effect it would have changing them around, only altered a few before, nothing shocking though...
been contemplating making a faction pagan instead of catholic or muslim or orthodox aswell, perhaps pagan danes or so, so sticking them with barbarian raider might do something viking???
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PseRamesses
06-08-2004, 10:20
Personally I´ve changed all "expansionists" to "defensive" except for the Turks - to give Byz a challenge. The Egggys and Almos are now "devout" which basically means they won´t attack other muslims.
In VikingHordes XL-mod you´ll find some elaborations with the behaviour such as the catholic Lithuanians which are set to "barbarian raider" and it works fine Check it out or PM VikinHorde for more details.

VikingHorde
06-08-2004, 13:56
Quote[/b] (PseRamesses @ June 08 2004,11:20)]Personally I´ve changed all "expansionists" to "defensive" except for the Turks - to give Byz a challenge. The Egggys and Almos are now "devout" which basically means they won´t attack other muslims.
In VikingHordes XL-mod you´ll find some elaborations with the behaviour such as the catholic Lithuanians which are set to "barbarian raider" and it works fine Check it out or PM VikinHorde for more details.
It was only the first version there had this setting. The Lithuanians are now pagan all the game, but it did work fine. Im right now allso looking into faction behavior to make my game harder and more realistic, so this is a good topic. I like to make my mod as good as Medmod on faction behavior, but it's very complicated stuff. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif