Vices & Virtues - Funny Combos

[RedKnight]

I just saw a funny combination of v&vs (mainly vices, heh), but I know that I've seen many odd ones over time... let's hear what you've seen, and I just saw:

Secret Pervert - Prefers young boys to young women

Pious - He applies his strong religious beliefs to everything he does

I'm trying to do the math on those two, lol... any chance CA is Secretly Sacriligeous? LOL

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[Bjorn Bjornson]

I like when you attempt to bribe a rebel army and fail, getting him a Man of Principle virtue, then succeed the next year (for increased price of course), and thus he recieves the Weak Principles vice right under it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Hmm... so a Man of Weak Principles, then?

But yeah, I have seen a few of my heirs as Egyptians have both the Perversion and the Believer/Pious line at the same time...

[King Edward]

Borne again athiests are common if some one survives Inquisition trials

The turkish sultan in my Byz Camp had Mighty Warrior and coward which was a strange combo,

There is a thread somewhere round here that show a humanist butcher as well

[cutepuppy]

Unhinged Loon (-30 happiness, -3 morale) + Charismatic Leader (+30 happiness, +3 morale)
In my current spanish campaign.

[The_Emperor]

I once came across an enemy general who was Brave Beyond Beleif and after a battle with me he had the Good Runner vice alongside it...

[soibean]

I had one that said he was an atheist - 8 piety
and then every turn after that he began gaining pious and then he became a secret fanatic
... I just didnt think atheists get that worked up over catholicism

[rasoforos]

Quote[/b] (RedKnight @ June 11 2004,22:52)]I just saw a funny combination of v&vs (mainly vices, heh), but I know that I've seen many odd ones over time... let's hear what you've seen, and I just saw:

Secret Pervert - Prefers young boys to young women

Pious - He applies his strong religious beliefs to everything he does

I'm trying to do the math on those two, lol... any chance CA is Secretly Sacriligeous? LOL

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Perhaps when one gets these 2 vices and virtues they should just be substituted with with:

Priest- Guess what this guys job would be in the 20th century? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Ironside]

What about this Pope:

Fanatic
Highly Educated
Unhinged Loon
Builder

Maybe not contradicting but do you want to meet this guy in real life? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

And I've gotten weak attacker/skilled attacker too.

[Sociopsychoactive]

I loved my crown prince, Great Warrior, Killer instinct, unhinge loon, doubtfull courage (screams like a girl), zealot, athiest, charismatic leader, dead drunk.

All in all he was a drunk idiot, who the people loved but a true coward and he didn't care a spot about the church, but liked his people to. If he ever actually got into combat he killed mercilessly, but maybe that was jus the alcohol fumes... And he didn;t get all of them till late game (he never got to be king, thankfully his older brother, the current king, had a son come of age before he died).

All tallied up he was at a severe disadvantage. The great warrior hardly countered the drunkenness, unhinged and charismatic cancel out, but doubtfull courage is crippling.

[-Amon-]

one of my games,pope was an atheist?


an unbeliever rules to believers?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[RedKnight]

Quote[/b] (Sociopsychoactive @ June 13 2004,07:11)]I loved my crown prince, Great Warrior, Killer instinct, unhinge loon, doubtfull courage (screams like a girl), zealot, athiest, charismatic leader, dead drunk.
Haha Socio... I'm wondering if I would really love a party he threw... or really hate it

Thanks for all the posts, folks, these are great.
Hey Amon, perhaps that actually pretty true to life there, lol. However, I would've thought it'd at least be a Secret Atheist. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[-Amon-]

Quote[/b] (RedKnight @ June 13 2004,09:18)]
Quote[/b] (Sociopsychoactive @ June 13 2004,07:11)]I loved my crown prince, Great Warrior, Killer instinct, unhinge loon, doubtfull courage (screams like a girl), zealot, athiest, charismatic leader, dead drunk.
Haha Socio... I'm wondering if I would really love a party he threw... or really hate it

Thanks for all the posts, folks, these are great.
Hey Amon, perhaps that actually pretty true to life there, lol. However, I would've thought it'd at least be a Secret Atheist. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif
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[roysparky]

I've had many strong priciples/weak priciples happen.

[Cebei]

Most frequent ones:

-Man of principle
-No principles


-Man of heartfelt faith
-Brigand and thief


-Weak principles
-Most loyal


-Chivalrious
-No remorse


and funniest of all

-No principles vice for a king

* Look take these 15000 florins and instead of being an emperor, be my general

* Ummm... ok Can I bring my harem with me?

* Well sorry, as a general you are expected to fight till you die

* Umm.. anyway.. but I want to favor my family above all.

* Thats ok, you wont be a governor anyway

* Sweet

[ah_dut]

aethist and god fearing or whatever it's called (+6 piety) on a pope http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[foop]

Quote[/b] (-Amon- @ June 13 2004,08:31)]one of my games,pope was an atheist?
Historically speaking, I'm sure there have been some Popes whose interest in religion as a source of salvation has been tiny compared to their interest in religion as a source of absolute power. I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling them atheists, but there were lots of corrupt Popes who didn't follow the Catholic ideal.

So maybe the game is getting it right?

Having said that, I seem to have a lot of blackmailing, adulterous pederasts among my English generals who are nonetheless pious zealots. Perhaps the contradictions involved in all this are why so many of them seem to be becoming unhinged loons recently.

[Marquis de Said]

I had a king who was:

-Scant mercy
-Butcher
-Irredeemably witty (puts everyone at ease)

Now he must have been some bloody good conversationalist...
Did ever I tell you about the time I slaughtered 1500 Mongol prisoners on the bridge of Khazar? There were literally hordes of them...

Marquis

[SwordsMaster]

I once had a general that was Friendly and Butcher.

I once trained one that was like Jason:
Bloodlover, Killer instinct, Mighty warrior, Irritable, Strange, Tortured, Utterly fearless.

Strangely enough he beacme dead drunk in the end.

BTW, he became 6* gen. and he was Spanish.

The other strange general I had was Good runner, utterly fearless (this one appears quite frequently for some reason)
hesitant, dead drunk (this one too) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif

[English assassin]

Not exactly the same, but I had well educated and clever assistants and he STILL only had one feather of acumen.

Hmm. Not the sharpest tool in the box then

[-Amon-]

Quote[/b] (foop @ June 15 2004,10:35)]
Quote[/b] (-Amon- @ June 13 2004,08:31)]one of my games,pope was an atheist?
Historically speaking, I'm sure there have been some Popes whose interest in religion as a source of salvation has been tiny compared to their interest in religion as a source of absolute power. I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling them atheists, but there were lots of corrupt Popes who didn't follow the Catholic ideal.

So maybe the game is getting it right?

Having said that, I seem to have a lot of blackmailing, adulterous pederasts among my English generals who are nonetheless pious zealots. Perhaps the contradictions involved in all this are why so many of them seem to be becoming unhinged loons recently.
i don't have any information about papist's history..maybe you're right..

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (English assassin @ June 15 2004,18:32)]Not exactly the same, but I had well educated and clever assistants and he STILL only had one feather of acumen.

Hmm. Not the sharpest tool in the box then
Yeah and his assitants are probably not as clever as everyone thinks they are http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Zanderpants]

I've gotten secret perversion, glutton, and zealot on one general. So I guess that he's an excessive secret religous perv.

[RedKnight]

Here's an odd one...

Highly Educated: +1 command, +1 acumen, +1 piety
Very Lazy: -2 command, -2 acumen
Overall he's a total loser: 0 command, 0 acumen. Sounds a lot like me, lol. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif

[Ironside]

Here's one:

Adultery
Charismatic Leader
Secret Fanatic
Man of Principle
Weak Principles
Secret Aetheist
Scant Mercy

I guess you don't wanna be a beliver when you meet this one. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Lt Nevermind]

Just had my russian prince with 'secret incest' with his daughter so I married him with a princess of mine to get 'secret incest' with his sister. After messing up with his family every here and there he was 'traumatised' by his own behaviour... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif