What describes RTW best?

[kataphraktoi]

So what describes RTW best.

Since we've all heard the criticsm of historical accuracy I lean towards the first option.

Since we are all effectively buying a game engine which CA sez is easily moddable, it makes more sense.
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[A.Saturnus]

RTW will be a masterpiece of strategic gaming. It won´t be a masterpiece of a historical simulation as well, but it will still be a great game. I simply can´t look at the features list without drooling.

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (A.Saturnus @ June 12 2004,11:49)]RTW will be a masterpiece of strategic gaming. It won´t be a masterpiece of a historical simulation as well, but it will still be a great game. I simply can´t look at the features list without drooling.
I second that, whatever I say it would be basically the same, so I'll just quote for change. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thumbsup.gif

[scooter_the_shooter]

kaptaproki whats with all these polls latley. but i dont care i like them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif i just want to know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[muffinman14]

rtw=masterpiece http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-party2.gif

[kataphraktoi]

poll - phase of my life...

[Nowake]

Second option, definitely.

[Colovion]

Bad marriage http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Rosacrux]

A bloody whore... CA is a complete sales-whore

Bow to the almighty god... The Euro


P.S. Bow to the almighty Greek national football team, as well Go Hellas http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[rasoforos]

I voted for Asian chicks. RTW is becoming more and more dissapointing to me , innacurate units , unlockables? , you might as well add Marioland and Hyrule forest on the map and release it for Gamecube(The princesses wouldmake a great unit , 'Impetuous , years locked in a castle and lack of sex make them charge without orders when facing almost naked barbarians').
Pretty graphics does not say anything to me , it seems that CA is following westwood's example ( release a couple of great games , then release a bunch of good looking ones with zero strategic value and be sure the suckers will buy them). If the game needs huge amounts of modding to become playable then i prefer to donate my money to the modders.
So Asian chicks all the way And the Greek National team and may their feet run as fast as flamming pigs in the game against spain

[Rosacrux]

Quote[/b] (rasoforos @ June 14 2004,01:52)]I voted for Asian chicks. RTW is becoming more and more dissapointing to me , innacurate units , unlockables? , you might as well add Marioland and Hyrule forest on the map and release it for Gamecube(The princesses wouldmake a great unit , 'Impetuous , years locked in a castle and lack of sex make them charge without orders when facing almost naked barbarians').
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Quote[/b] ] And the Greek National team and may their feet run as fast as flamming pigs in the game against spain

And may the Spanish arses be set on fire, as the Portuguese ones did http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] ]Pretty graphics does not say anything to me , it seems that CA is following westwood's example ( release a couple of great games , then release a bunch of good looking ones with zero strategic value and be sure the suckers will buy them).

Westwood were great until EA bought them and took over everything (before the time C&C Tiberian Sun came out).

And now Westwood are no more...

Hopefully CA have enough sense to remain independant. And not to listen to Activision's sugguestions that much.

[Sjakihata]

If I want history I go to a library and read a dull and dusty book about roman legions. For some that is actually entertainment too.

But when I want to have fun and enjoy eyecatchers I will play RTW.

So it's a masterpiece in simulation/strategy.

[ah_dut]

It's not going to be historically accurate so MOD it it become a gem http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[A.Saturnus]

Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ June 14 2004,07:06)]A bloody whore... CA is a complete sales-whore

Bow to the almighty god... The Euro


P.S. Bow to the almighty Greek national football team, as well Go Hellas http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
This is confusing me now. Didn´t we agree that historical accuracy isn´t bad for sales? If the idea that cool Egyptian units and flaming pigs could increase sales were correct I could accept these decision more easily. After all, RTW isn´t an academical work to simulate historical warfare but an economical product created to make it´s developers (or rather those who owe the rights on it) rich. The sad thing is in my opinion that they sacrify historical accuracy for perceived economical profit.

[Rosacrux]

Quote[/b] (A.Saturnus @ June 14 2004,13:39)]
Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ June 14 2004,07:06)]A bloody whore... CA is a complete sales-whore

Bow to the almighty god... The Euro


P.S. Bow to the almighty Greek national football team, as well Go Hellas http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
This is confusing me now. Didn´t we agree that historical accuracy isn´t bad for sales? If the idea that cool Egyptian units and flaming pigs could increase sales were correct I could accept these decision more easily. After all, RTW isn´t an academical work to simulate historical warfare but an economical product created to make it´s developers (or rather those who owe the rights on it) rich. The sad thing is in my opinion that they sacrify historical accuracy for perceived economical profit.
WE know that. The lads and lasses over at Activision (and CA, I assume) marketing&sales department, don't. And they'll find about it - since they don't read our enlighted comments - too late.

But that will be their loss.

So, they think (as you said "perceived profit) they'll make more money if they bow down to reach the lowest (possible) common denominator - like mentally challenged 6 year olds with serious learning problems http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

They are acting like sales-whores, oh yes they are.

[Knight_Yellow]

So 10 people on a internet forum agree on something and you proclaim yourselves to know more about marketing than CA?

Thats pretty funny.

Legends in your own lunchtimes.

[Rosacrux]

Knight Yellow

What is your working experience with large corporations and/or multinationals? Zero, I assume?

Mine is quite substantial and I'd say you'd be surprised if you find out how many simple and logical assertions requiring nothing more than a touch of common sense, completely escape the rather fixed mindsets of marketing people. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[octavian]

i'd have to go with (A)/(B)

[Voigtkampf]

Regardless of that harsh and somewhat unnecessary kick-start on Knight Yellow, which I'll choose to ignore, it should be obvious what sells and what doesn't. Historical accuracy is a low priority issue for the gaming industry. Read comments on various gaming sites, the most people will notice graphics, gameplay and similar issues to be the most important ones; only few people will choose not to buy it because of historical inaccuracies, and I won't be one of them.

Though I would like the game to be as historically accurate as possible, I don't suffer from prolonged "Iberian Bull" syndrome and I do intend to buy Rome:Total War. Ever since I saw "Time Commanders", I'm eager to get it.

And my common sense says me that it will be the strategic game of all times and that it will sell even to people that don't actually like strategy games.

Will have to wait and see, I suppose.

[Monk]

I'll buy rtw... maybe. i'll wait a month or two after it's released to see what everybody is saying about it before i decide to put down $40 or more of my own money.

edit: besides, i'm going to need a new system if i intend to even play rtw.

[kataphraktoi]

Just out of curiousity, who voted Asian Chicks are no.1???

[Sir Robin]

If I want historical accuracy I'll create a time machine and go back to those times with all the misery, disease, and blatant undervaluing of human life. At least now many cultures maintain a fascade of legality and morality to cover their innate corruption.

I am such an optimist... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

RTW is a combination strategy/tactics turn-based/realtime game with historical elements added to enhance the experience.

If the game doesn't have too many "mechanical" failures or deficiencies it will be an enjoyable romp and absorb a great deal of my time.

[Barkhorn1x]

Quote[/b] (Sir Robin @ June 15 2004,12:36)]If I want historical accuracy I'll create a time machine and go back to those times with all the misery, disease, and blatant undervaluing of human life.
Why not just take a walk down your street? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

Barkhorn.


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