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Spino
06-14-2004, 19:22
Get over there and vote

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshogun....ults=on (http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotalwarfrm24.showMessage?topicID=110.topic&pollResults=on)

The choices this week...

Results (total votes = 22):
Pontic Bronze Shield Pikemen 8 / 36.4%

Carthaginian Slingers 8 / 36.4%

Iberian Infantry 0 / 0.0%

Eastern Archers 5 / 22.7%

Roman Mirmillo 1 / 4.5%

I cast my vote for the Pontic Bronze Shield Pikemen. Glad to see Pontus get such a unique spear unit. And here I thought Pontus was going to be assigned a generic pike unit like Eastern Heavy Infantry and nothing more.

On a different note I'm a little worried that the Carthaginian Slingers are just a renamed, generalized version of Balearic Slingers. I sincerely hope the Balearic islands' finest make it into the game.

Trax
06-14-2004, 23:02
If Charthaginian slingers will replace the Balearic slingers.
Then we probably can“t expect any Rhodian slingers and Cretan archers too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-gossip.gif

Leet Eriksson
06-14-2004, 23:13
Hmm yeah,carthaginian slingers should have been balearic slingers...well carthage relied on them extensivly.

alman9898
06-15-2004, 02:35
Maybe they're two types of slingers.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/handball.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

andrewt
06-15-2004, 03:14
Hopefully, there'll be a Balearic Slingers. CA's unit names have become blander while they're adding fantasy units to look the game look cool. It doesn't make sense.

Nowake
06-15-2004, 09:51
I would have chosen slingers, but must find out more about the pontic culture.

The Blind King of Bohemia
06-15-2004, 12:28
I've seen a at least two TC episodes with Balearic slingers in, and when looking at the map the island looks like its there, so there is a pretty good chance they will be in the game

Basileus
06-15-2004, 12:51
Vote for the Pontic unit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

shingenmitch2
06-15-2004, 13:23
I was unaware that the Pontic kingdom was known for its pike units (or that it even had them). Does anyone have specific info about this?

Rosacrux
06-15-2004, 13:52
The Pontic kingdom under Mithridates (Evpator Dionysios) the VI, was extremely heavily influenced by the hellenistic world. It's leader was of mixed Persian and Greek ancestry (his line was installed there after during the 4th century BC) and it's armies have by large adopted the hellenistic model (heavy on pikes and cavalry etc.).

Of course I know very little about how the Pontic army fought in the 3rd century BC. I'd expect a mix of hellenistic and Persian elements.

One thing, though: Pontus was a rich kingdom and during the Mithridatic wars it mostly relied on mercenaries.

Oleander Ardens
06-15-2004, 18:05
I would expect also a Sarmantian influence, giving that they controled the lands around pontus for a long time...

Sarmantian cavalry fought for Pontus too

@Shingen: Neither I have any info of particular famous pike units from Pontus http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Kraxis
06-15-2004, 19:19
Voted for the slingers.

The pikes are intriguing indeed, but we have already seen its basics before. I want to see if the slingers are indeed a dumbed down version of the Balearic Slingers or 'true' Carthies.

Oleander Ardens
06-16-2004, 08:11
malikric posted this on the .com:


Quote[/b] ]
Sulla (as rewritten by Sullast) wrote of Mithridates' elite corps as the "Brazen Shields" and described them as "covered from head to toe in the most fearsome and awesome armor... covered in silver and gold" He then later noted that they were so slow to react to ranged attacks due to their heavy and ornate armor that he had his men easily defeat them with javelins and catapults"

Well done CA there http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif


By the way I too voted Slingers for the reasons Kraxis pointed out...

The_Emperor
06-16-2004, 10:37
Voted Slingers... We have already seen a large number of Pike & spear units, and its about time we saw something different from the hordes of Spearmen and Naked Barbarians.

Give us a few ranged units or even some cavalry.

Kraxis
06-16-2004, 16:25
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ June 16 2004,04:37)]Voted Slingers... We have already seen a large number of Pike & spear units, and its about time we saw something different from the hordes of Spearmen and Naked Barbarians.

Give us a few ranged units or even some cavalry.
The Shogun actually posted on that... Go back and read it again. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The_Emperor
06-16-2004, 17:42
Doesn't mean they will win... Everyone over at .COM seems to have a Pike/Naked Barbarian fetish. (ooeerr) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Spino
06-16-2004, 18:47
The Carthaginian Slingers are putting up a respectable fight but I think most people would prefer to see a high value unit instead of a low level one.

I'm damn curious to see how the Pontic units look. I hope they resemble a mish mash of Western and Eastern influences.

The Sword of Cao Cao
06-21-2004, 02:44
A guy named Demonstrative at the .com put it best...

"You people are just dumb. I don't know why I bother gracing you with my presence. We've got a Silver Shield Pikeman, you can choose from a range of units, and what do you choose? A Bronze Shield Pikeman. What - are you going for the full set or something? Shall we petition The Shogun to put the Gold Shield Pikeman in next poll? And the Copper, Tin, Brass and Aluminium Shield Pikemen?

You buffoons. "


LOL, I voted slinger.