Romans and Vikings [Archive]

ah_dut

06-16-2004, 22:20

is it just me or are the Romans in RTW going to be like the Vikings in VI. Crap cav and amazing OP inf. Obviously, they won't have naval dominance in the begining and all the rest but still there is a close similarity there. Just here for the historical view of our esteemed members of this forum http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

Leet Eriksson

06-16-2004, 23:22

No naval domininance?you kidding right?Although Carthage had Quinquiremes,Roman ships,the Biremes,are roughly as powerful as the Quinquiremes.The Romans became the dominant force in the mediterranean after carthago fell.

discovery1

06-16-2004, 23:39

Before, actually. Their invention, a plank with a spike at one end, gave them a considerable advantage during the 1st Punic war. Its name translates the 'crow' I think.

Longshanks

06-17-2004, 07:44

If RTW has starting periods like MTW (early, high, late) the Romans should start with naval dominance in every period except early.

ah_dut

06-17-2004, 17:30

sorry you misunderstood me i meant at the start of the game

DemonArchangel

06-27-2004, 17:01

roman cavalry as seen in the videos, don't seem to be so poor, Praetorian Lanceraii (i think they are that) seem to be as powerful as Chiv knights.

ah_dut

06-27-2004, 20:03

Quote[/b] (DemonArchangel @ June 27 2004,19:01)]roman cavalry as seen in the videos, don't seem to be so poor, Praetorian Lanceraii (i think they are that) seem to be as powerful as Chiv knights.
eek, i swear that's wrong, roman equites got whooped historically didn't they?

metatron

06-30-2004, 07:18

Well, until the stirrup found it's way into Europe, cavalry tended to be on the light side.

About Roma, for some reason the Navy never really took off. Not until Constantinople was alone were the fleets an important arm.

The Wizard

06-30-2004, 12:46

After the destruction of Carthage there was no need of a powerful fleet, maybe only to go against Mithridates' Pontic pirateers in the Black Sea.

Anyway, Roman ships got smashed by the much larger and more advanced fortified Carthaginian ships, but Romans solved this by taking their advantage on land on board, namely by developing a boarding plank. Their marines were much, much better at close combat than the Carthaginian sailors (as good as Romans on land) and so the Carthaginians were beat.

~Wiz

ah_dut

07-01-2004, 16:43

wiz, any reply on the cav side of things?

Oleander Ardens

07-01-2004, 16:49

There was a mounted wing of the Praetorians once in a while called Lanciarii, but we know absolutly nothing about their ability in combat. IIRC they were composed of Germans which were considered to be far more loyal to their chosen leader than other folks...

Steppe Merc

07-09-2004, 17:54

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif Cavalry was just fine before the stirrups. As a whole, Romans sucked at cavalry. Send them up against any one with decent cavalry, and the Romans will lose, cavalry vrs. cavalry.

ah_dut

07-11-2004, 21:45

Quote[/b] (Steppe Merc @ July 09 2004,11:54)]http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif Cavalry was just fine before the stirrups. As a whole, Romans sucked at cavalry. Send them up against any one with decent cavalry, and the Romans will lose, cavalry vrs. cavalry.
I know just any info on this particular unit?