American Civil War Total War?

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

I have absolutely no idea where to stick this so I'll throw it right here, and if you yell at me I'll behead you on the spot samurai style http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shogunshame.gif

I heard at the.com that the next Total War, after Rome, will be .. I cant say it... the American Civil War. This is absolutely horrible and I pray it's just a rumour. It would seem if it is true, CA r EA whoever the hell makes these things, has decided to forsake the oldest iving civilisation on Earth, a nation of true warriors, andwhere warfare was so very advanced and epic, even for the ancient era. Fre sake for anyone who geusses who I'm reffering too...

[Duke John]

Topic moved. The Engineers Guild is for Mod Development only

Cheers, Duke John

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I pray its a joke because that will quite possibly suck http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[LordKarolinger]

Where did you hear that at or from? Says nothing on the main page or in the forums as far as I can tell.

[Duke Malcolm]

The American Civil war? That's too boring. China would probably be a better game, or the Orient in general. Africa could also be good.

[Rufus]

Limited appeal to TW's international audience is understandable. But it still could be cool. I haven't been able to find any good strategy games about the U.S. Civil War that capture the full sweep of the era (just games centered on particular battles or campaigns).

I'm not sure how they would handle "factions." Obviously the Union and Confederacy only make for two. Maybe you play a particular general, as opposed to Lincoln or Davis, and your goal is to become commander of the whole U.S. or CSA Army?

If CA wants to delve into this hemisphere's history, I think a better one would be New World: Total War, 1492-1830. Ideally it could cover the New World and Europe, since events in Europe influenced colonization, but that might be too much. You could have:

Era of Discovery, 1492-1588
Factions: Spain, Portugal, Aztecs, Incas, Mayans, Caribs/Arawaks, Iroquois, Cherokee, Lakota Sioux, Dakota Sioux, Oglala Sioux, Apache, Comanche, Hopi, Zuni, Seminole, Inuit.

Era of Conquest and Colonization (?): 1588-1750
Factions: same as above but drop Caribs/Arawaks and add England, France, Holland, Sweden, Russia.

Wars of Independence: 1750-1830
Factions: same as above but each colony can be played as a separate faction. The mother country, if not played, could play the "Pope" or "Senate" role until you decide to fight for independence.

Another issue is how to balance the vast technological disparity between the European and Indian factions. Maybe the Indians could produce buildings and troops at far less cost and could start with more of the map visible, and easier initial access to resources?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Now a new world total war would be sweet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Rufus]

Has anyone tried to do a New World TW mod? I have no technical skills, plus barely enough time to play MTW let alone make a mod, but could provide input/research if anyone tried to make one.

I tried to play American Conquest but couldn't get into it. Your only options were to play a scenario or a random map (no option to have an open-ended campaign on the real world map, as best as I could tell), plus I'm more of a fan of the hybrid TW format than strict RTS.

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

For GOd's sakes TW has had enough of Europe, or the west in general for now. We've got MTW, VI, RTW and whatever it's expansion will be. We covered Asia only once, and that was just one of the Asian warrior nations.

Oh and King Malcolm, your right. China is what I was referring too. It would be like Rome, faction wise, unt wise and history wise. Plus, we would have the option to branch into a new style of warfare. The Chinese ivented explosives. They were all into biological and not so primitive chemical warfare evwen in the Medieval times. Plus, all those, like me, who want a Shogun remake, would get it. The game should start from the China's founding, to say... The Manchu's take over China. Factions....

The Chinese
The Japanese
The Koreans
The Jurchens (from Manchuria)
The Nanman (Vietnamese)
The Mongols
The Huns
The Turks
The Indians
The Tibetans
The Siamese
The Burmese
The Khmer Empire

These are just a few major factions, from different era's. The unit diversity would be AWESOME. Just think of the potential All who are now dreaming of China: Total War say aye

Aye

[Rufus]

China sounds cool but would there be much of a market for it? I guess if Shogun did well, yes ... But to use your reasoning, New World would make sense - they did one Asia, two Europe, it's time for the western hemisphere And in this era, it wouldn't be just "the West" - my concept would include a bunch of Indian tribes as playable factions.

[thrashaholic]

How about a Colonial: total war, encompassing the entire globe. You play as one of the major nations (European or Asian) and try to conquer the entire globe

Time periods: end of Medieval: total war to potentially any time after (even now), 1800s would probably be best mind.

Tons of factions, tons of possible troops, tons of cultures, tons of technology development, tons of flavour, tons of possibility

Then you could play as who-ever you want: a European nation or China or India, or eventually a New-World nation It should appeal to everyone

[Nomad]

Quote[/b] (The Sword of Cao Cao @ June 22 2004,01:47)]The Chinese
The Japanese
The Koreans
The Jurchens (from Manchuria)
The Nanman (Vietnamese)
The Mongols
The Huns
The Turks
The Indians
The Tibetans
The Siamese
The Burmese
The Khmer Empire

All who are now dreaming of China: Total War say aye

Aye
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I'd hoped BKB's new mod was going to include a few more of those factions. But no problem. A far east Medieval and/or Age of discovery TW would be an excellent if not the best visual and tactical experience. Although a Renaissance TW would be visually cool. (They could pay Duke John to do the animations). But "Aye", a Far East TW, would be my favorite choice.
Its not like The ACW is an original idea for a game, or that two factions will provide the long term playability that the choices of STW, HTW, NTW or MTW provide. You would have thought they might have consulted Europa Barbarum or somebody who plays these games. I really doubt I'll buy this ACW:TW. (Unless it gets totally modded, new map, era etc) Maybe we should petition them by email. But first perhaps we should do a pole, base on proposals posted here or perhaps there need to be a new thread.

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[Duke John]

Topic moved to the Entrance Hall since it turned out to be about a new official game instead of mod-related.

Cheers, Duke John