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Duke John
06-22-2004, 12:42
To give the game a more medieval feel, we will replace event pictures and infopics with images from medieval manuscripts. Since ShadesWolf and I are already working hard on all kinds of other stuff we ask for help to find appropiate manuscript images. Below is a list of the needed pictures.

Many thanks for any help,
Duke John

Events
The Event images are stored in the EPIC.bif file in the /campmap/ folder. The number in front of the name corresponds with the frame number in the BIF.

f7 - Battle lost?
http://www.shadesmtw.com/battlelost.jpg


f8 - Defeat?
http://www.shadesmtw.com/defeat.jpg

f9 - Funeral
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/9_funeral.jpg

f16 - Revolt (peasant?)
http://www.shadesmtw.com/peasantrevolt.jpg

f18 - Province lost
http://www.shadesmtw.com/provlost.jpg


f19 - Siege lost
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/19_seige_lost.jpg

f20 - Siege 1 (starting a siege?)
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/21_seige_2.jpg

f21 - Siege 2 (during a siege?)
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/20_seige_1.jpg

f22 - A child is born

f23 - Heir matures
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/23_heir_matures.jpg

f25 - Victory
http://www.shadesmtw.com/victory.jpg


f30 - The happiest
http://www.shadesmtw.com/happiest.jpg


f31 - Most advanced
http://www.shadesmtw.com/mostadvanced.jpg


f34 - The richest
http://www.shadesmtw.com/richest.jpg



f35 - Largest military might
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/_recruitment.jpg

f58 - Draught

f59 - Famine 1
http://www.shadesmtw.com/famine.jpg


f60 - Famine 2
http://www.shadesmtw.com/famine2.jpg


f61 - Offering of Alliance
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/61_alliance.jpg

f63 - Siege won
http://www.shadesmtw.com/siegewon.jpg

f66 - Factionleader died in battle
http://www.shadesmtw.com/dieinbattle.jpg


f67 - Virtue Gained
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/67_virtue_gained.jpg

f79 - Princess too old
http://www.shadesmtw.com/princesstooold.jpg


f85 - Disloyal generals
http://www.shadesmtw.com/disloyalgenerals.jpg


f87 - Prisoner
http://www.shadesmtw.com/prisoner.jpg

f92 - Marriage (proposal?)
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/manuscript/92_marriage.jpg

f94 - Faction reemerges
http://www.shadesmtw.com/reamerge.jpg


f95 - Revolt
http://www.shadesmtw.com/revolt.jpg

Techtree

Recruitment
Don't know how this is going to be used, but it looks good.

Duke John
06-22-2004, 20:23
Interface
After some browsing on the internet and brainstorming I thought it would be nice to change the interface of M:TW. To give it a more medieval feel I recreate parts of a church or other medieval building and leaded windows as the buttons. Since a image says more than a 1000 words:
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/misc/wip_interface_1.gif
It's still a work-in-progress, but I am curious if you think it's right and wether you can comprehend the icons. Note that you cannot really build buildings anymore (see main thread). You can place governours and the big left button should display that. So what do you think?

Cheers, Duke John

frogbeastegg
06-22-2004, 21:24
Quote[/b] (Duke John @ June 22 2004,20:23)]http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/misc/wip_interface_1.gif
I haven't played MTW in months and I can still work out what the bottons do effortlessly; I like the way this looks, better than the original in my opinion.

Duke John
06-22-2004, 23:14
Thanks froggy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-nice.gif

I worked a bit more with it and I think the grey stone look of the original looks better since the campmap will already get a brown palette. The stone will provide a nice contrast. I think the interface will be enough for the coming time so I will leave it.
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/misc/wip_interface_2.gif

Duke John
06-23-2004, 12:15
I've been busy with the strategic pieces. Since we don't really have buildings and castles I thought it would be inappropiate to have castles for strategic pieces. What we do have are Goverourships. At the moment I'm thinking of 2 levels: Governour and the Throne. I'm not really happy with the names, but the Governour is the common castle building while the Throne is an unique building. Anyway I want to represent these with a medieval folding chair and a throne. Here's a sample of the folding chair that stands for Governour:
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/misc/pieces_1_2.gif
And ingame:
http://totalwar.org/twocrowns/dev/misc/pieces_1_1.jpg
I will need tweak it a bit since at the moment you don't see how many men are inside. I am thinking of tapestry behind it. This was also done in real life.

What do you think? Is it clear? Does it fit the theme?

Cheers,
Duke John

Angelnessuno
06-23-2004, 21:38
oh great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

wilpuri
06-23-2004, 22:23
I've been looking for some pictures you might want to use:
Here is a great site with a lot of pictures: http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/manuscrits/manuscrit.htm


The riches, perhaps?
http://www.xenophongi.org/rushistory/rulers/ivanter.jpg



Another possibility of siege lost http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0020.jpg



Succession?
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0035.jpg



Enemy king captured an excecuted?
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i4_0009.jpg



Assasination?
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0053.jpg



I hope these were of some use.

The Blind King of Bohemia
06-23-2004, 23:52
Is the top one of Ivan the terrible? I think the rest suit but not that one, i think it would be to eastern for it, don't you reckon?

The execution one is really top though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

Alexander the Pretty Good
06-24-2004, 03:29
Hi all

I enjoyed the War of the Roses add-on and I want to help in any way I can with the Two Crowns modification. I don't know how to mod anything. But I can get images or try to help research or something.

I tried the site that wilpuri posted to get some images of manuscripts that you could you use... There's a lot of stuff there

http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0040.jpg
(You could use it for prisoners, maybe)

If you are doing naval combat:
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0045.jpg

I would really like to see this Two Crowns mod out soon, way before Rome comes out. That's why I want to help.

By the way, this is my first post - I'm a new member (though experianced SP MTW player - never tried MP).

ShadesWolf
06-24-2004, 06:09
Welcome Alexander the Pretty Good http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

Duke John
06-24-2004, 07:56
Welcome to the Org, Alexander the Pretty Good
Your first post the Two Crowns Forum, you made an excellent choice http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif

To all who help with manuscript images
I will download your images, and if they are appropiate I will put them in the first post. However to reduce the downloadsize of this page (think of the poor 56Kers) I want to ask you if it's ok if I delete your images once I have saved them?

And you will only need to search for images with the topics in the first post. Other events are not used, although that assassination is pretty cool.
Normally succession is showed by a dead king in bed, but it might be better to show the crowning image that wilpuri found.

Highlander X
06-24-2004, 10:57
hope these work http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

f87 - Prisoner

http://home.ripway.com/2004-6/123814/prisoner2.jpg

http://home.ripway.com/2004-6/123814/prisoner.jpg

Highlander X
06-24-2004, 11:31
famine
http://home.ripway.com/2004-6/123814/famine.jpg
http://home.ripway.com/2004-6/123814/seedman.jpg

birth
http://home.ripway.com/2004-6/123814/mumbaby1.jpg

princess to old
http://home.ripway.com/2004-6/123814/princesstooold.jpg

not sure, but i thought it looked good
http://home.ripway.com/2004-6/123814/uknown.jpg

Duke John
06-24-2004, 11:45
That birth picture requires censoring http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif

Alexander the Pretty Good
06-24-2004, 23:52
Quote[/b] ]I want to ask you if it's ok if I delete your images once I have saved them?

No problem at all.

Thanks to Duke John and Shadeswolf for the gracious welcomes

ShadesWolf
06-27-2004, 08:31
PICTURES WE COULD USE - Part 1 - ENGLISH

Edward III

http://www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/edwiii.jpg

Richard II

http://britannia.com/history/monarchs/richard2.jpg

Henry IV

http://www.erpyngham-retinue.org.uk/_private/images/Image3.jpg

Henry V

http://www.erpyngham-retinue.org.uk/_private/images/Image4.jpg

Henry VI

http://www.erpyngham-retinue.org.uk/_private/images/Image5.jpg







LINKS

Buckingham's Retinue (http://www.bucks-retinue.org.uk/index.html)

ShadesWolf
07-01-2004, 07:17
PICTURES WE COULD USE - Part 2 - FRENCH (to be continued)

ShadesWolf
07-02-2004, 22:06
Pictures we could use - Part 3 - BURGUNDY

Philip the Bold

http://dijoon.free.fr/enfants/portlehardi.jpg

John the fearless

http://dijoon.free.fr/enfants/portsspeur.jpg

Philip the Good

http://dijoon.free.fr/enfants/portlebon.jpg

Charles the Bold

http://dijoon.free.fr/enfants/porttemerai.jpg