English Sport

[King Edward]

Ok in the last few weeks we have:

Lost the Football in the Qtr final of Euro 2004
Lost all three tests heavily down under in the rugby,
Lost 2 one day internationals to Mediocure sides in West Indies and NZ,
I heard somewhere our Hocky team lost again,
And as i typ this Henman is 2-0 down in the tennis

Has a nation ever had such a bad run of results in 2 weeks?

[mercian billman]

England has a Hockey team http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[BDC]

It's all because of Rooney's foot.

[Duke Malcolm]

The media just exaggerate the English teams. The Rugby world cup was fluke. Henman can never win a decent competition, because my great-grandmother can play tennis better than him. The skill of the football team is over-estimated. The cricket team is... probably having bad luck.

and yes, Scotland probably has.

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (King Malcolm @ June 30 2004,16:19)]The media just exaggerate the English teams. The Rugby world cup was fluke. Henman can never win a decent competition, because my great-grandmother can play tennis better than him. The skill of the football team is over-estimated. The cricket team is... probably having bad luck.

and yes, Scotland probably has.
The problem with the rugby team is they have all retired. So we have a bunch of skilless newbies.

[Spino]

Your boys need to lay off the sauce between matches... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[King Edward]

Quote[/b] (King Malcolm @ June 30 2004,16:19)]The media just exaggerate the English teams. The Rugby world cup was fluke. Henman can never win a decent competition, because my great-grandmother can play tennis better than him. The skill of the football team is over-estimated. The cricket team is... probably having bad luck.

and yes, Scotland probably has.
The RWC was no fluke, see discussion on it in the tavern. Its just frustrating to watch us promise so much and then deliver so Little http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[JAG]

What do you expect, we never win things.

[ElmarkOFear]

You guys sound like you are the Chicago Cubs of Europe :)
Never win the big one, but you got great fans. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[RisingSun]

Elmark beat me to it. I'm a Cubs fan. And it weighs heavily on the city.

But, I swear, this year is the year Or else you can expect the Chicago suicide rates to jump in the middle of October. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[JAG]

Quote[/b] (ElmarkOFear @ July 01 2004,01:16)]You guys sound like you are the Chicago Cubs of Europe :)
Never win the big one, but you got great fans. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
I think we are the typical Red Sox fans really, and guess what baseball team I support http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

And just to highlight the point, look at the game tonight vs the bloody Yankees http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yes sad to see Henman go out in the quarters, but really he had no chance of beating Federer, that guy just plays incredible.

[pyhhricvictory]

Quote[/b] (mercian billman @ June 30 2004,11:07)]England has a Hockey team http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Wait, ENGLAND has a HOCKEY team http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

What did they do, take old footballers and give them skates?

[RisingSun]

I think rugby players would be more suited. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[King Edward]

Quote[/b] (pyhhricvictory @ July 01 2004,03:43)]
Quote[/b] (mercian billman @ June 30 2004,11:07)]England has a Hockey team http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Wait, ENGLAND has a HOCKEY team http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

What did they do, take old footballers and give them skates?
PROPER hockey, not that silly game you play on ice the other side of the pond http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif thats just an excuse for a good punch up every now and then

[Magraev]

Quote[/b] (ElmarkOFear @ June 30 2004,19:16)]You guys sound like you are the Chicago Cubs of Europe :)
Never win the big one, but you got great fans. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
heh England has the worst fans - not the best. Hooligans anyone?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif
Dunno if they affect other sports than soccer though.

[King Edward]

Quote[/b] (Magraev @ July 01 2004,11:21)]
Quote[/b] (ElmarkOFear @ June 30 2004,19:16)]You guys sound like you are the Chicago Cubs of Europe :)
Never win the big one, but you got great fans. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
heh England has the worst fans - not the best. Hooligans anyone?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif
Dunno if they affect other sports than soccer though.
Look mate, just because im English doesn't make me a hooligan, I think holigans are a discrace to any sport and they spoil it for everyones fans, esp the fans from the country that these holigans are supposed to be 'Supporting' http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[Magraev]

I agree and I'm sure there are many regular fans in england too - sorry for the generalization.
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[King Edward]

No worries mate, i didn't mean to fly off like that http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Mablung]

Quote[/b] (King Edward @ June 30 2004,09:00)]Lost 2 one day internationals to Mediocure sides in West Indies and NZ,
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif NZ is NOT mediocre
We just have a bad run of injuries at the moment Hold yourself lucky Shane Bond wasn't fit

[mercian billman]

Quote[/b] (King Edward @ July 01 2004,02:30)]
Quote[/b] (pyhhricvictory @ July 01 2004,03:43)]
Quote[/b] (mercian billman @ June 30 2004,11:07)]England has a Hockey team http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Wait, ENGLAND has a HOCKEY team http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

What did they do, take old footballers and give them skates?
PROPER hockey, not that silly game you play on ice the other side of the pond http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif thats just an excuse for a good punch up every now and then
Do you mean Field Hockey http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif In the US Field Hockey is a womens sport...I think Massachussettes(?) allows boys to play on girls teams.

[Mablung]

Field hockey is the original flavour. It is proper hockey - been around for longer and as for guys not playing that is just wierd, lots of guy's international teams.

[king steven]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-furious3.gif DAMN uri miesr http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasarno.gif

[King Edward]

Quote[/b] (mablung of the heavy hand @ July 02 2004,06:37)]
Quote[/b] (King Edward @ June 30 2004,09:00)]Lost 2 one day internationals to Mediocure sides in West Indies and NZ,
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif NZ is NOT mediocre
We just have a bad run of injuries at the moment Hold yourself lucky Shane Bond wasn't fit
NZ arn't the greatest of test sides, their one day team seems to do better. But i Agree, It was a shame Bond was missing.

PS WE ONE SOMETHING Well done Vaghney and the Lads

[rasoforos]

Could i suggest you U.K guys join forces in sports instead of playing divided , and maybe then you could win a cup or two?
I somehow think i jsut said something very wrong http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif

[King Edward]

Humm, not sure that will go down to well Ras, I'll hold my tounge re my opinion on this although Giggs Would solve Englands problem Left wing

[Mablung]

NZ just beat England convincingly and now are assured a place in the NatWest one day series final http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Iashiii]

For our (England's) football team, I think that only Giggs and perhaps Maik Taylor from Wales, Scotland & N. Ireland would make the first 11, and neither, judging by their performances this season, would be much of an improvement.

Tbh, I much prefer the system as it is. The banter & rivalry between fans is what makes following football great. Can't wait till the WC 2006 qualifiers

[Pellinor]

What happened is that people went from thinking Wouldn't it be nice if we won to thinking We will win, unless we cock up badly.

Not winning the European cup is not a disaster. England got to the last 8, and did better than many highly-rated teams. Why isn't that being celebrated?

Losing a game doesn't mean you're bad at it, it means that the other side were better that time - and maybe they won't be next time. England has world-class teams in all important sports, whilst the Americans for example can't even work out how to play cricket never mind field a team.

It's not winning or losing that counts, it's playing. Winning is a nice bonus, but if you think it's essential to your enjoyment of a game then IMO you have some misplaced priorities.

[King Edward]

Quote[/b] (Pellinor @ July 06 2004,12:39)]It's not winning or losing that counts, it's playing. Winning is a nice bonus, but if you think it's essential to your enjoyment of a game then IMO you have some misplaced priorities.
i never ment this to be a 'Im angry cos we lose' thread, just seemed odd that so many defeats in so many sports came in such a short time I agree with you that winning is not all important, in fact i play several sports at a competitive level and recently left one team for a weaker team as my first team had won the league 2 seasons in a row so i went to a team that was struggling a bit. much more of a challenge and rekindled my appitite for that sport some what

Always play to win, but at the end of the day a sport is a sport and not life or death some times you just have to take your medicine and accept you were beaten by the better man/woman

[Pellinor]

Oops, sorry - that's meant to be a third-person you not a second person one. If one thinks... etc. Not aimed at you personally.

Cheers,

Pell.R.

[NagatsukaShumi]

English fans are too stubborn to take in the fact that reaching the knock-outs is a great achievement, to them if you lose at any stage you had an awful tournament, you could lose in the final and they wouldn't be satisfied.

England did, however, play some really bad football at times but then at other times they played great, they just couldn't keep the great part going for long enough.

Anyway, now that I've seen that Greece can win the European Championships its clear underdogs can do it, bring on World Cup 2006, lets go Lithuania http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif. (I'll even accept Latvia http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif)

[gaelic cowboy]

Quote[/b] (King Edward @ June 30 2004,10:34)]
Quote[/b] (King Malcolm @ June 30 2004,16:19)]The media just exaggerate the English teams. The Rugby world cup was fluke. Henman can never win a decent competition, because my great-grandmother can play tennis better than him. The skill of the football team is over-estimated. The cricket team is... probably having bad luck.

and yes, Scotland probably has.
The RWC was no fluke, see discussion on it in the tavern. Its just frustrating to watch us promise so much and then deliver so Little http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
Actually the RWC really came too late for that team it is past the peak and it is gathering speed downhill. Lucky for England they won so it wasn't a total loss but next RWC no chance on present form.

[King Edward]

The England Rugby team is playing bad at time moment but the point i was trying to make is that these players are young and inexperienced, with another 3 years of test experience behind them, England will once a gain be a major force at the World Cup.

[Mablung]

Good luck beating the ABs, they have lots of young, promising players not to mention a better coach now.

DAMN JOHN MITCHELL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif