Quick Save...

[Bedsorian]

Sorry for the mundane....but all my efforts to find this have been to no avail...

What's the quick save key?

Sorry, sorry, sorry....

[pdoan8]

Ctrl + S to save

Ctrl + L to load

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Btw, quicksave often means quickdestruct. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Always save at the very beginning of a turn before doing anything.

Hth
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[motorhead]

I've got a much more positive view on quicksaving. For a while my game was crashing like mad (i now know it was probably just a bad savefile), but quicksaving worked fine and saved me many lost hours. I almost always use quicksave every turn just in case, and it's never caused me any problems at all.


edit: and i qs all over the place, beginning/middle/end of turn. If i'm tired, i might qs 3 or 4 times in a few mins as i keep tweaking things and debating if i'll just call it a night. And I always do regular saves at the end of my turn. Next time i load up a turn, i don't have to worry (much) about what events occured at the beginning of a turn as i've already dealt with them.

[Mouzafphaerre]

Quote[/b] (Mouzafphaerre @ July 11 2004,05:28)]...Always save at the very beginning of a turn before doing anything.
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Valid for QS as well, at least in my experience/configuration. Quicksave at the beginning of the turn and you won't have any troubles. Do it sometime in the middle and you'll risk a corrupt savefile.
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[Xiphias]

I usually end up quicksaving several times a turn if I have more than a few provinces and it's never caused me any problems.

[Mouzafphaerre]

Quote[/b] (Mouzafphaerre @ July 11 2004,13:56)]-
...in my experience/configuration...
is the key phrase here. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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[Ar7]

Well i don't really like to quick save. After a very long time i began enjoying a new campaign and thought i should try the QS. As my PC crashed i was very happy that i had saved only to find out that the file was corrupted http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif . After that i didn't play MTW for a week or so http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasarno.gif

[solypsist]

FYI, when you save on the Battle screen (wher you it shows the terrain and armies committed to fight), it saves over the previous quicksave.

[katank]

you should quicksave but also normal save every few turns, particularly after a hard fought battle etc.

[Servius]

nearly every one of my crashes occur when I hit ESC to get to the save game option. I've become so paranoid about all the crashes that I just keep playing until the game Autosaves. Onc that happens I hit ESC and save the game normally. If it crashes, I load the AS and then normally save it.

The upside is that the AS has never failed me yet.

The downsides are you can't use this every turn as the game doesn't AS every turn and you often have to play through several years (and sometimes several battles) before you can save and quit.

I actually didn't know about the QS, but I'll try it. I think the one time I saved at the reinforcement screen before a battle it crashed me. :-(

[katank]

there's an option for autosave every turn, I think.

[Medieval Assassin]

I always Iron man, screw saving, every move is most important, and I only save when I'm done playing. Makes for a far better game, almost anyone can win if you just save before a battle and keep playing it untill you win it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasarno.gif

[katank]

that's where discipline comes in but ironman requires good stable system.

unfortunately, my system crashes a bit too much for that. fighting 10 turns worth of battles due to a crash is annoying.

[pdoan8]

I don't see how quicksave can ruin the ironman rules. The difference is whether you use it to your advantage or not. I quicksave every turn at the end and it becomes a habit. The chance of using one of those quicksaves is pretty rare. I have played through many campaigns without using a single quickload.

It still depends on your ironman rule. Mine doesn't include quicksave.

[Don Corleone]

If you don't save, how in heaven do you finish a game? My games take weeks, if not a month or two. If you go for Total Domination, and you don't automanage your provinces, things can take forever at the end.

[Medieval Assassin]

You don't save before that pinch battle that may mean the fall of your kingdom, you only save when you are done playing, so you can't load an autosave so you can just keep playing the battle.

You save, but only when you are done playing. I can see autosaving if you have an un-stable system, But I think loading up the game so you can re-fight a key battle is right.

[katank]

Quote[/b] ]so you can re-fight a key battle is right.

don't you mean wrong? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif don't you disdain people who reload?

[Medieval Assassin]

https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif

Missed some word there https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-clown.gif

[motorhead]

For me, reloading to get a better outcome isn't worth it - the game becomes worthless to me.

BUT, I've also had the excruciating experience of the game going thru an awful CTD run for about 2 weeks. Seemed like every other turn it was crashing as soon as i came out of a battle. So, I quicksave all the time, for that warm-fuzzy "I won't have to pull my hair out if the game CTDs" feeling.

[YAKOBU]

Hi https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

I don't like reloading previous saves to get a better result but had 1 occasion recently when it would have been fair. It was my reign on a PBEM and I attacked the Golden Horde in a province and was on my way to an overwhelming victory. Unfortunately 4 of their soldiers got stuck on the map edge withdrawing and my archers couldn't reach them. I had to withdraw to continue the game and accept it as a defeat https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-furious3.gif. I carried on regardless but thinking back maybe I should have reloaded to get a fairer outcome, I hate defeats for my best generals and any vices that may go with it https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[katank]

we are discussing quicksave only as prevention of CTDs. reloading for better outcomes is cheap.

yakobu, have you tried setting the reinforcement flag at where the GH soldiers ae stuck?

apparently, the reinforcement flag allows your units to go where they can't go regularly so you may get to slaughter them.

[YAKOBU]

I have to disagree with you katank as reloading because of a glitch turning an overwhelming victory into a defeat is not cheap. Reloading due to bad generalship I agree is cheap though.

Thanks for the advice on reinforcements. I will try that next time https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

p.s. apologies if you didn't mean me with the cheap comment https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

[katank]

I didn't mean you.

it's things like oh gee, I didn't expect that they would raid my capital and raze it to the ground.

must reload now.

that kinda thing is cheap.

your situation is more than understandable. I think the reinforcement thing worked for me before.

sucks if you don't have any reinforcements left though.

[Tricky Lady]

Quote[/b] (Mouzafphaerre @ July 11 2004,04:28)]-
Btw, quicksave often means quickdestruct. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Always save at the very beginning of a turn before doing anything.

Hth
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Quicksave saved a few ever-crashing games for me...

When I hit "ESC" to save a game, it (nearly) always resulted in a CTD (unless I saved after playing 1 or 2 years, maximum).
Now I hit CTRL-S each turn, and when I want to "really" save my game, I can always reload the quicksave when I get a https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif CTD again.

All hail Quicksave https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif

[katank]

yep, quicksaves are awesome for between long battles.

however, if you change reinforcement order and then save, it often CTDs and corrupts the quicksave from my experience.

[Tricky Lady]

Oh, but I usually don't use the quicksave function on the prebattle screen (never ever used that one actually).

I only quicksave when on the campaign map, and so far this proves to work fine for me (knock on wood).

[katank]

lol, quicksave on prebattle screen can be unreliable but unlike some, I have difficulty finishing 4 hours of battles in 1 sitting.

[Tricky Lady]

Agree.
Fought once a siege battle (GH storming Khazar citadelle) and the battle lasted for more then two hours. A lucky tower catapult shot killed their general after one minute or so. Was beating GH wave after wave. And then, after 2 hours.... a https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-furious3.gif internet pop-up and MTW minimized I thought I got a heart-attack and a brain aneurysm at the same time.
Quickly closed the pop-up and the internet connection and was very relieved that my VG's were still destroying the MHCs...
Phew, that was close. I don't think I have quicksaved so quickly as that night... https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-grin2.gif

[katank]

lol yeah.

I love those siege defenses.

they had to say hello to many many huscarles. parked in a fortress with some defensive catapults.

note: catapults are good to make sure you knock out their siege as you can't main the towers.

also, later on, they can still kill quite a bit.

[Duke of Gloucester]

I must be honest and say I do reload battles to get a better result. It isn't cheap because I am learning to play the game. When I mess up I can say to myself "What would have happened if I had used this tactic?" and then try it out. However I would never say "I managed to complete total domination by the year x", because I know I haven't been strictly honest. Anyway, now I think I am ready to do without the reload.

[Daveybaby]

I will occasionally reload if i do something totally stupid, by which i mean : stupid in a forgetful way, rather than stupid in a tactical way.

e.g. its 2 a.m. and i'm about to conduct a siege of a fortress, and forget to drag the stack containing my artillery onto the castle. Doh I dont see why i should be penalised just for being prematurely senile https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I've never experienced any quicksave corruption, and i quicksave a LOT (my pc is very, very unstable and crashes about 50% of the time when loading battles). Having said that i have, of course, now jinxed myself and i will go home tonight to find all of my savefiles nicely randomised.

[katank]

yep, I would sometimes do the same as daveybaby or other times forget to deploy my siege in range and just hit begin battle for find all my engines unabe to target the walls. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Tricky Lady]

Yes, sometimes reloading is very tempting...

Last night I played a defensive battle with 2000 Almos against 2700 Egyptians (I was surprised to see that the Eggys didn't field a sea of peasants, only 5 or 6 units of them iirc, but mostly camels, nubian spears and led by hero general Nur al-din, 8 stars).
I had enough desert archers and AUM and berber camels, and managed to shoot up the 8 star killer saracen unit rather early (but not before he routed 75% of my first defense line though). I started to call up reinforcements and beat wave after wave that the Egyptians sent to me. Every now and then I replaced the tired and depleted units.
And then I did something stupid.

I withdrew four (exhausted) units of AUM, some berber camels and a few arrow-depleted desert archers, only to find out that I only had 4 reinforcements left 3 nubian spearmen and one (depleted) unit of mercenary FMAA. Were still left on the battlefield: 1 merc bulgarian brigands, 1 berber camels (15 men) and 1 ghulam cav (4 men, general).
Oopsie. Mistake.
The last (?) wave of angry Egyptians consisted of 3 or 4 nubians, 3 or 4 camels, 1 muwahid foot and some peasants...
My men fought valiantly but in the end still routed...
https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

I lost the battle killing 1800 and losing "only" 900 (which was still a bit too much to my personal taste).

I didn't want to reload this battle.
Plus: the Egyptians were so weakened that I could easily mop them up and ban them to Cyprus (their last province). I will do some good trading businesses with them the next years. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[katank]

good job lol

well, it's best to remember how many reinforcements you have and in what rough order so this type of thing doesn't happen.

[Tricky Lady]

You bet that next time that I'm fighting a huge battle, I'll take some pen and paper and write down the last 10 units or so.

I felt so stupid... https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif

[katank]

I usually make a mental note of every 5 units or so.

BTW, isn't there a counter for reinforcements waiting?

you should know how many reinforcements are simply tiny fragments and definitely avoid using them.

[Tricky Lady]

Quote[/b] (katank @ July 22 2004,19:33)]BTW, isn't there a counter for reinforcements waiting?
(I feel even more stupid now) https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-cry.gif Yes there is.

There's a big green text at the left bottom of your battle screen telling you "You have X reinforcements left".

I guess I just didn't pay attention to this (nevertheless very clear) informative pop-up. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wacko.gif