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G-Con Daniel
07-11-2004, 17:29
My favourite Faction is the Russians because you can do anything with them and you've got Armenia nearby AND you can bribe the neighbouring Rebels http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif
Despot of the English
07-11-2004, 17:37
I always find polls such as these impossible to vote on because I don't particularly have a favourite faction. I know my least favourites and without a mod the Russians are one of them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .
G-Con Daniel
07-11-2004, 17:43
Think about it though, Mercenaries, Lithuania, Armenia, Great attacking pos. i would definetely go for them instead of the Turks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-gossip.gif
Jihad2Death
07-11-2004, 17:47
You got to love the Turks,they have everything any army needs,plus they are close to both Egypt and Constantinople.You don`t have to worry about the pope telling you what to do,and you can send Jihads from everywhere once you have a Ribat.
G-Con Daniel
07-11-2004, 18:06
Maybe i was too obsessed with the boyars I, if i could, change my vote to the Turks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-lost.gif
Well, for speed and tactical opportunity, I like the Turks. They can be anything you want them to be, pretty much.
I've taken to the Byzantines recently, however. I like their disciplined style and mix of troops. And Byzantine Infantry just rule all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I don't see the big fuss about Russia. They don't suck... Boyars are nasty, nasty unit, second only to Szekely in my opinion. I also like the Lithuanian cav and Avar Nobles that Russia has easy access to.
G-Con Daniel
07-11-2004, 19:23
YES someone agrees with ME for a change, thanks Sarnaen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
G-Con Daniel
07-11-2004, 20:04
Of course, the other factions are good.
Jihad2Death
07-11-2004, 20:29
IMO the Russians are the 2nd worst faction in the game to play with.They lack good troops,compared to the other factions,its hard to get money.They are Orthodox so they can`t launch jihads,or cruasdes,but its not like with the Byz where they have really good troops.They have to take the most from the Golden Horde.Maybe I`m missing something?
The adrenaline rush of taking up the challenge?
VikingHorde
07-11-2004, 22:05
My vote goes to the byzantines, the danes are number two but they are not on the list.
Louis VI the Fat
07-12-2004, 05:44
The Danish
I love to build an empire from just one, not particularly good province....
G-Con Daniel
07-12-2004, 08:11
OH I forgot the Danes... Sorry
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Inuyasha12
07-12-2004, 13:16
Oh well must say the byzantines(again) they have the perfect mix of units that i like to use.
Good infantry, horse archers, heavy cav, good access to great archers.
i`ll go with the english, while longbows and billmen aren`t fancy they do get the job done. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif
The_Emperor
07-12-2004, 13:57
My overall fave used to be the English but recently I have had a very Good Byz campaign and that in itself has converted me.
No worries about the Pope, he never calls for a crusade against you.
Byz Inf and Varangian Guard, just own all... Trebizond Archers beat Vanilla Archers, Byz Cav rocks (even though their build requirements are a bit too steep).
Good generals and influence, and most importantly.
Primely placed to face the Golden Horde when they arrive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
Byz, English, and Turks for units.
for GA, I prefer French or HRE.
it usually cycles between these factions.
Darth Binky
07-13-2004, 03:29
I voted Turks.
But I also have a lot of fun playing the HRE and Spanish. Sometimes playing as Aragon or Denmark is also fun- starting from just one province, and building up; although I wish the Danes had more than just Vikings after Early. I also hate that funny salmon/pink color that Aragon uses...
octavian
07-13-2004, 03:31
where is GAH aragonese r t3h best http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Duke of Gloucester
07-13-2004, 11:17
I only play English I just love longbows. They can destroy expensive cavalry units with ease, and the fire and move much faster than pav arbs. Mind you, when I get fed up of playing English I will play Spanish - my 2nd favourite unit is Jinnettes(sp?).
Sun Tzui
07-13-2004, 14:28
Byz, then English the Egyptians...in the vanilla version
My all time favourite is the Pope
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RollingWave
07-13-2004, 16:29
Hmmm I like muslim factions the most but overall i like turk the most... almos get's rather boring quick as later on it's just mass aum +arbs and some spears+ ahc/ghulum) and after u kill the spanish there is no challange at all usually .... eggies are kinda fun but their stuff suck in early they only get the fun stuff in high ......... turks however are cool... they are about the only faction that doesn't get arbs and they are about the only fation that can realistically afford a all cav army (or a main cav army anyway) They have so many cool units starting from early and even more in high :P
For catholics i like the danes the most... THE RETURN OF THE VIKINGS....
I think byz is rather boring to play for the most part... (unless u start in high or late...in which they become too hard to play XD)
Novorgod is a good challange.. and can be really good if you could acturally make some cash......
G-Con Daniel
07-13-2004, 17:00
And they say the standard of debate in my topics have gone down
novgorod is just blitz your path to Const. and not so hard.
it's practically a nation move to the rich provinces of Asia minor and balkans.
I still find all those favorite faction business a bit of an exercise in futility as I can come up with a rationale for where any faction would shine.
I like the Germans because before you know it you can be involved in a 6 front war.
I voted the Turks.
But i'm writing about my other favorite faction which is Spain.
Great starting position, with money and iron. Fastest crusader in the game. Jinetes are my favorite missile/light cav..
You can jump on the Almohads fast and only stop in Egypt (if you really want to)... And with the right starting moves you can get Toulouse Aragon and Aquitaine really fast and without political consequences (dealing with the Pope).
You have one of the best dinasties to produce high valor Generals, too.
And later, Gold/Gold Lancers.
Iberia is also full of sweet chokepoints for minimum borders.
would be rated almost as high as the golden triangle in the east due to lack of enormous trade although the iron is great.
Agreed. Even if you just expand enough to take hold of Iberia, plus Toulouse, Aquitaine and Morocco, you are already with a solid economic base to develop from. And those are the only borders you need to defend.
(Besides sea routes. You have to keep an eye on the italians so they don't land on your backyard.)
Seven.the.Hun
07-15-2004, 03:02
i know its a shocker...gotta go with the horde...
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but u gotta love those vikings
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Balin son of Fundin
07-15-2004, 05:33
Im saying the Byzantines.. I mean they got Constantinople and all of the cool units and stuff...
G-Con Daniel
07-17-2004, 19:55
how comes the byzantines are strong in that particular campaign and not the others?
it's simply not on
RexImperator
07-22-2004, 16:05
I'm going with Turks
Janissary Heavy Infantry
Need I say more?
Al Khalifah
07-22-2004, 21:03
While they aren't playable unless you do a little tinkering... WHERES THE HORDE????
I love the Golden Horde units. I know they can't build much, but their unique units are excellent. They suit my play stratergy perfectly and their infantry is great. They are a little weak on the defensive I think but then again, when are the Horde ever on the defensive???
If I do have to play a defensive battle I normally try and make it offensive which is easy to do because of the abudance of good cavalry available to the Mongols.
If I had to choose a default faction I'd go with the Italians. Italian light infantry is good, genoese sailors are helpful at the start and eventually they get gothic knights.
Al Khalifah
07-22-2004, 21:06
While they aren't playable unless you do a little tinkering... WHERES THE HORDE????
I love the Golden Horde units. I know they can't build much, but their unique units are excellent. They suit my play stratergy perfectly and their infantry is great. They are a little weak on the defensive I think but then again, when are the Horde ever on the defensive???
If I do have to play a defensive battle I normally try and make it offensive which is easy to do because of the abudance of good cavalry available to the Mongols.
If I had to choose a default faction I'd go with the Italians. Italian light infantry is good, genoese sailors are helpful at the start and eventually they get gothic knights.
Al Khalifah
07-22-2004, 21:13
Sorry double post. Voting after my post made my post seem to disapear to me so I reposted and they were both back. Strange https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif
clovenhoof
07-23-2004, 00:07
The Germans are my current favorite, the problems and opportunities of maintaining a large empire are an interesting challenge. I am into the history of the transition from the Roman Empire to the Holy Roman Empire and Byzantium so it is especially cool for me to play either the Byz or the Germans.
your favourite faction or the best faction?
I couldn't vote because I can't really decide on either. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
My favourite faction is close run between the Turks, the English, the Byzantine Empire, the Spaniards and the Mercians (VI). These are the factions that I like to play as for no apparent reason.
The best islamic faction has to he the Turks. The best Orthodox is clearly the Byzantine and the best catholic is probably either the Danes(VI) or the English, in my opinion.
The Turks have the edge over the other islamic factions, and probably ever other faction, due to more units specific to them available in the late medieval. Almohad Urban Militia are excellent but the Almohad can't build Saracen Infantry and lack the good specialised cavalry of the Turks and Egyptians. I do like to play as the Almohad though.
The Byzantine clearly outlclass the Russians early on, and Kataphraktoi, Pronoi Allagion, Byzantine Infantry and Trebizond archers are superb. As the Byzantine You have the ability to produce decent troops with few improvments to proviincial facilities from day one. I really don't rate Varangian Guard (overrated and weak considering the time and florins they take to produce) or Byzantine Cavalry that highly though. Prefer Lancers and basic horse archers to Byz. Cavalry. Main facton weakness is lack of decent spear troops.
The English have good light cavalry early on, hobilars, which despite beng rather weak are exactly the type of fast cavalry you need to deal with the muiltitude of archers peasants and occasionally routing spearmen early in the campaign. They have billmen (better than halberdiers), of course, which I use far more than any other unit when they become available. Longbows are good but I must admit to not seeing them as a priority. I tend to produce more pavise arbalestiersthan longbows as they suit my style of play better. Once longbows become available I do train them instead of archers.
The Danes with the VI upgrade are unstoppable in the early campaign. Huscarles are as deadly in this as they are in the dark ages, viking, campaign. I have made more progress in the shortest time with this faction than with any other, to the point where it seems unfair and unbalanced... then Huscarles go out of fashion... https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif
G-Con Daniel
07-23-2004, 09:17
You can't play as the Golden Horde though in campaigns, just custom battles and the historical campaign in a series of battles
lonewolf371
07-23-2004, 12:21
You haven't experienced the All20 mod...
However I think with VI you have to use a different one to use the horde.
Al Khalifah
07-23-2004, 20:15
Quote[/b] ]You can't play as the Golden Horde though in campaigns, just custom battles and the historical campaign in a series of battles
Thats why I said they're only available with a little tinkering. There is a mod but the name escapes me that gives the mongols access to all the buildings and units they need, but I just added these myself and copied the Orthordox required files. An awesome faction if made available - maintaining them and expanding further can be tricky.
Funny, you left what would have been my choice out of the poll.
My favorite faction so far is the Hungarians (to be fair, however, the only other faction I have played is Byz.).
I'm sure you left them off because you were afraid they would win...
Thanks,
Micah
Btw, did I mention that the Hungarians are right smack dab in the middle of the Golden Triangle and poised to take it all?
Not to mention their great unit selection and availability of special region-specific units (i.e. avar nobles, a-var: verb. Hungarian idiom meaning stomp face).
Pretty good heir production too.
Thanks,
Micah
P.S. Sorry for the 2 posts but I'm a junior member and can't edit
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