Messiest fights (most casualties)

[G-Con Daniel]

This is basically a basic post which asks how many peeps have been massacred in your battle, any figure you like... honest. I once had 1286 casualties with the unit size at large

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[Lt Nevermind]

On default size I've never lost over 1000 men. Honestly I've got no idea which is my mens biggest massacre but a quick guesstimate would be 500(+).

[Despot of the English]

Most I've lost is probably about 800. In an autocalculated battle I lost 3600 against the Mongols and won (I killed roughly the same amount.)

[G-Con Daniel]

WHOOOAAAAAAAAAA

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[Game Over!!!]

Once playing Elmo's/early/expert I whacked the spanish pretty hard. Over 1500 dead & 1100 captured...my bribed lancers captured over 900 prisoners by themselves I only lost 250 men. That was fun. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[katank]

bribed lancers in early? not a single faction has lancers in early.

[Darth Binky]

Aren't those crappy Byz Lancers available in early?

As to the original question, in auto-calc, I've lost thousands. I think the worst was losing about 8000 when I auto-calc'ed a Byz vs Horde fight during the initial invasion of Khazar.

The most I've lost when I've actually fought was probably about 800 or so. Generally, when a battle is going that badly I withdraw my army, so it's rare that I lose more than 400.

[fatscaryguy]

well playing with medmod I've had some epic battles with the italians that left a lot of bodies on the battleground.

One battle I was fighting about 1500 italians (with a 8 star general), while I had about 1250 troops with a 6 star general (I was playing as the danes). The result of the battle?

About 1350 Italians slain at the cost of about 1150 of my men. I was close to winning, but my units were exhausted and the italians brought on some reinforcements and managed to rout my troops
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[Julius Caesar]

While playing hellenic total war the persians invaded me with 30,000 men on large unit size playing on Expert mode. I had around 20,000 men led by a nine star general. Auto calculated and i ended up losing around 8000 men but killing 22,000 persians.Biggest battle ive seen so far and bloodiest http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

[G-Con Daniel]

...........Ouch...............

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[The_Emperor]

My bloodiest and closest battle was invading Almohad controlled Portugal in my English campaign.

Little did I realise that my 5 star general (up against a 4 star almo Gen) had picked up the Unhinged Loon vice (morale Penalty).

At any rate the battle started off ok as my archers laid into the Almos. But then they advanced and their AUM's really cut into my Gallowglasses and Mil Sgts. Indeed one AUM unit was V5 (Must have had some cracking V&Vs on the Unit leader) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

At any rate my army broke and my General fled the field, then I rallied what I had left and managed to sandwicht he enemy general between a unit of Mounted Sgts and a depleted unit of Mil Sgts, and he was toast.

The rest of my inf was routing off the map at this time and all I had left was My Archers who after shooting at the Almo survivors managed to rout them off the map

Needless to say my 5 star Gen had the doubtful courage vice after that fight (yes he went straight to that skipping the Good Runner Vice).

Almos Killed/captured 840, own Men lost 835.

[katank]

Byz lancers aren't lancers although they are great light medium cav (1 more attack than mtd. sarges).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

From shogun with large unit sizes:

Killed 4000, lost 1700. It was 2v1...they both had 4000 troops.

[Marquis of Roland]

Cornered entire saxon army in sussex(?) and suffered almost 300 casualties with a full 16 unit army. Doesn't sound so bad, right? Except my whole army were size-20 newly minted berserkers. Killed about 3000+ in the process.... I can't believe they didn't have any peasants.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-furious3.gif

[Darth Binky]

Quote[/b] (katank @ July 12 2004,15:28)]Byz lancers aren't lancers although they are great light medium cav (1 more attack than mtd. sarges).
But they have the name lancers. He didn't specify whether they were the Byz or Spanish lancers.

And as Elmos, he wouldn't have access to the good Lancers (unless he bribed them). And in my experience, the AI Spanish/Aragonese factions never actually make lancers... but the AI Byz often makes Byz Lancers. So bribed lancers being used in early by elmos probably means bribed byz lancers.

Meh, it's not like it's important anyway...

[katank]

I know, but usually when you say lancers, you mean Spanish or Aragonese ones.

Byz lancers aren't really that good.

Byz rarely have civil wars or anything so bribing the faction army would not justify the cost.

[G-Con Daniel]

How do you have loads of battles involving loads of troops right on your own doorstep?




Have a civil war I did using the English at 20 full armies and several almost full strength


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[massamuusi]

I was playing turks/expert, the french had two simultaneous crusades against my capital, coming through the west russian steppes. They both had 6000+ men, total 12000+. I gathered all available troops to georgia, some 1000 archers, with janissary archers, mostly ottoman infantry, some futuwwa etc. Plus some 300 infantry, of which 1 was HJI, and 1 unit of armenian heavy cav.
I put my archers into a square on a slope of a hill, and put my infantry in front and sides to defend them, and left my cavalry in nearby forest. The french sent their elite troops first, knights templar, order foot soldiers, chivalric knigths and that stuff, of which they had 3000 men, some 8000 medium and light infantry, and the rest was rabble. I shot single volleys with all the archers, concentrating the fire at a single unit at a time. Their casualties were heavy, and my infantry broke them every time, and my cavalry harassed them.
When the battle finally ended, I had lost some 300 men, and my enemies had lost some 8000 men, almost all their elite and heavy troops, and most of their medium infantry.
Second turn I got more reinforcements in the province, and with my saracen infantry massacred the crusades to last man during the followin 2 turns.

[dessa14]

20k i lost.
mongols hard modded.
they had lots more then i.
all my guys were cav.
thanks,
dessa

[ConstableBrew]

Just two nights ago I was russia aginst the GH. Defending Kiev, river crossing. The bridge was right next to a bend in the river with a good hill on it that basically let me set three units of arbalasts lenghwise along 3/4 the length of the bridge. The end of the bridge also had a small hill allowing me to put a unit of arbs above the defending unit of halbreds. I then put a unit of boyers behind those arbalasts and two catapults just behind them.

I have never seen a bridge so full of bodies along the entire length of the bridge. At the end of the battle one catapult alone rocketed to 5 valor and the other to 3. Each unit of Arbalasts and two of the 4 boyers I used all got one valor. Three of the halbreds I used all got a valor point.

In the end I believe it was something like 2800 enemy killed (with 3 captured lol) and 100 deaths on my side.

[katank]

it's nice that from the boundaries of the carpet of mongol bodies, you can see the exact range of your arbs.

[ShadesPanther]

The bloodiest was when I was Athens in HTW and the Spartans invaded. I lost almost all my men I started with about 20,000 and had just over 2,000 men left. Had bring reinforcements from all over my island empire.

[G-Con Daniel]

My friend just had this massive fight Over 30,000 died and 5,000 prisoner. This was on 8 factions and armysizes huge it really clogged up his processor though https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

[Tricky Lady]

I've never fought a battle with over 3000 soldiers at either side (except perhaps a siege defense against the horde, but that doesn't count).
The biggest loss was 600 dead and around 850 captured, Almos against Egyptians.
I (playing the Almohads) deployed some desert archers, catapults and ballistas on a nice hill, with a spear wall (nubian spears, silly me) and two units of AUM around. The Egyptians (mainly peasants, but their first wave consisted of some quite good units such as AHC and saracens) just walked up the hill, taking almost no casualties from my firing artillery, and then simply and easily charged my spears' flank (when saracens attacked the spear frontally) whilst the AHC charged my desert archers and chased the arty crews... I tried to bring up some reinforcements but to no avail... This was one of my biggest and quickest losses... https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wacko.gif

[G-Con Daniel]

Quote[/b] ]The biggest loss was 600 dead and around 850 captured, Almos against Egyptians.
I (playing the Almohads) deployed some desert archers, catapults and ballistas on a nice hill, with a spear wall (nubian spears, silly me) and two units of AUM around. The Egyptians (mainly peasants, but their first wave consisted of some quite good units such as AHC and saracens) just walked up the hill, taking almost no casualties from my firing artillery, and then simply and easily charged my spears' flank (when saracens attacked the spear frontally) whilst the AHC charged my desert archers and chased the arty crews... I tried to bring up some reinforcements but to no avail... This was one of my biggest and quickest losses...

Silly mistake to send the re-inforcements. if you had waited for the enemy to get everyone in, you could flank 'em

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[Byzantine Prince]

Mine was like 4500 on HTW which basically all I play but yea it can get much higher since armies can come from different allies and they can have endless reinforcements.

[Gith]

I lost 4k from auto calc against the rebel remnants of the great horde (about 9,000 of them).

[G-Con Daniel]

Now that was not a mess... That was just a plain massacre

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[GoldenKnightX2]

The Goriest Battle I ever fought was as the Bynzantines, in a battle with the Golden Horde I lost 13000 and the Golden Horde lost 15000, only some 2000 men survived the battle

[katank]

2k survivors from your side or both?

[Game Over!!!]

In response to katank question about lancers not available in early: It was about 1195 or so and a rebel faction appeared in Spainish controlled Leon. The spanish left Leon and I bribed the rebel stack that had the SPANISH lancers. Those 66 lancers would roll over other units without taking many losses. 20 years after I bribed the lancers, I still had over 60 in the unit. First time I ever had the chance to use them.

[katank]

I thought the rebels were era restricted as well. what version are you playing?

[Despot of the English]

Quote[/b] (GoldenKnightX2 @ July 21 2004,08:45)]The Goriest Battle I ever fought was as the Bynzantines, in a battle with the Golden Horde I lost 13000 and the Golden Horde lost 15000, only some 2000 men survived the battle
Those are some stats https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif . Did you command the battle personally?

[GoldenKnightX2]

Yes I commanded it personally, I had about 1500 men after Battle, The Golden Horde less than 500

[lars573]

Do you mean on both sides or just your own? If you mean just my side then about 2600. If both sides them 6000.

[Despot of the English]

Quote[/b] (GoldenKnightX2 @ July 22 2004,01:35)]Yes I commanded it personally, I had about 1500 men after Battle, The Golden Horde less than 500
Woah Just think of all those bodies and the blood. Massacres, don't ya just love 'em.

[AssasinsShadow]

My goriest battle had to have been in VI. I was playing as the Vikings and I had an entire army of Joms Vikings with fully upgraded weapons and armor, as well as the full morale bonus(from the pagan sacrificial shrine). I had killed the Mercinian king earlier, so the Saxons had a huge empire in southern England. I attacked right in the middle and ended up facing some 5000 Saxons. After slaughtering their initial forces, I proceeded to place my joms vikings right in front of the saxon reinforcement area, as close as I could get. In the end, about 4300 saxons died, and i lost roughly 100-150 Jomsvikings

[Sociopsychoactive]

Most I have killed has to be when attempting to subdygate south east england as the vikings, with beserker-heavy armies on deafault unit sizes. 12 men does nothing to improve loyalty, but inspires some HUGE rebellions, one of them was around 7,000 rebels, with less than 1000 being peasants, agaist about ten stacks of beserkers and nothign else, so 120 men.

i won, a complete and utter assacre as wave after wave of spearmen and armoured spearmen foguth to the death against my beserkers, almost all of them not routing until they were down to about ten men, even when others were routing beside them. I later realised the rebel leader had some great virtues, tortured (+6 moral), brave beyind belife (+2 or 3 moral) chivalrous (another +2) natural leader (yet another +2) and great warrior.

No wonder they all stood and fought, but in the end there were over 6000 rebels dead, 400 captured, and over 100 beserkers dead, but I still won... Just.

[Rufus]

Welsh vs. Picts on Domon in VI/normal. My 8* King took 2500 of Wales' finest into Domon to eliminate the Picts, who had re-emerged with about 5,000 (0 valor b/c they were re-emerged). The Pict King had 1*. My men's valor was generally around 3. I had lots of archers, Celtic warriors, horsemen and spears, with a few Welsh bandit units (who were cool but didn't seem worth the wait). A good number of my guys had armor and weapon upgrades. They had mainly spears, Celtic warriors, maybe some berserkers, not sure ...(it's not in my notes)

It's a hilly, seaside battlefield in a thunderstorm (which was also cool - I'd never seen lightning in a battle before). I see several artillery pieces lined up facing me with the Picts waiting my attack on the hill behind. I walk my troops all the way around the arty, through some woods, and take a position at the top of the hill opposite the Picts. Amazingly the AI, defending, sends its men to attack ME, up my hill, through the woods, one or two units at a time. My archers, bandits and Celtic warriors rout them continually. The AI does this with almost all its starting units. As it starts to call up reinforcements, I take a hill position near the emergence point of the reinforcements so I can rip them up as soon as they show up. Which is exactly what happens, although they fight it out to the very bitter end as it's their last stand.

Result: 3,400 Picts captured or killed (I don't remember how many prisoners were slaughtered. I think I was feeling nice so I let most of them live. Captives were executed anyway, since the faction disappeared and couldn't ransom them back)
586 brave Welshmen gave their lives that day.

[Tomassi_Rossino]

I had this earlier. An army of 2 units of cavalry, 2 archers, 1 chivalric foot sergeants, and the rest were vikings. We had a fight with the HRE across a river putting the CFS at the front. At the end of the battle the bridge was completely turned black and yellow because of the uniforms. Only about a few dozens of Danes died on my side but over 1000 on theirs - about the entire army.

Stats were: 355 lost - 1255 killed. 15 HRE soldiers routed.

[Sun Tzui]

Mine was me as Aragon vs Almos, I lost some 1900 they lost some 3000, and I was still able to loose the battle cause they killed off my Gen....

[DonCoyote]

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although i won this MedMod battle, i shouldn't have really. i comprehensively lost the initial contact (still not sure why), but the AI gave a little breathing room that allowed me to organise my limited reinforcements. i was then able to kill the AI general (cav) before the bulk of his foot made it across the map. this is the most men i have lost in recent times.

Don Coyote

[Despot of the English]

I had a pretty messy battle using the HTW mod. I was the Macedonians against the Ilyrians. The problem I had was that I was on the attack and started right at the bottom of this steep hill. I had over 400 horsemen so I thought it would be a good idea to more them up the hill as fast as possible so I could see what was up there. But by the time I got to the top the enemy had already moved a mass of troops very quickly towards my horses: they included Ilyrian Tribesmen all armed with spears and there were also quite a number of cavalry. Before I could react my 400 horses were engaged in combat and were getting smacked hard.

Meanwhile my infantry forces were trying their best to trudge their way up the hill. My cavalry were beaten back and were routing through my infantry and the pursuants then engaged them. Although the enemy had the advantage of higher ground my superior infantry managed to beat them off. I had also lost quite a lot of archers who I used to charge into the rear of the enemy at the top of the hill who were then in turn charged.

I lost 900 men and killed 2500 of the enemy. That's the most I've lost in a fight I've personally controlled. You should have seen all those dead horses: literally hundreds of them.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

HeHeHe

With napoleonic total war: Killed 12,700+, lost: 588. Battle was lost though, imposible numbers.

Without NTW, around 10,000 altogether,
-Capo

[gamesneal]

I lost 2000 but inflicted 2500 and won vs the GH.

[Seven.the.Hun]

hmm, dont think i have lost over 2000 in one battle as dead/captured combined...
probably killed over twice that many in a battle,
have to look through notes...

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