Back Stabbers?

[Dr Strangelove]

How do I defend my generals et al. from assassins? I've already built border towers but they keep breaking through. In a related matter, how can I defend myself from enemy inquisitors?

[Sarnaen]

Assassins of your own counter enemy assassins. Have one in every province, as well as a spy. That way, you're relatively safe from spies as well as assassins.
For inquisitors, just keep a few high valour assassins ready to remove them. Of course, having high piety makes it more difficult for the inquisitors to torch your generals too.

[Dr Strangelove]

Thanks for the info. I read somewhere that the presence of bishops and other religious leaders reduce the duration of an Inquisition. Would a bishop or two of my own help defend my leaders from Inquisitors?

[Papewaio]

Bishops help somewhat, but offense is the best defense... a couple of low level assassins can get rid of the inquistors... better still I send Inquistors back against whoever started the Inquistion even if that means Rome herself.

[katank]

cardinals are the best to counter inqs if you can't assasinate them.

the spies and assasins are the way to go.

[Degtyarev14.5]

Have you ever noticed that for some strange reason, your bishops and / or cardinals are gaining stars for no apparent reason?

Everyone knows they get stars for negotiating alliances / ceasefires. Did you know they also get stars for saving your generals from the torch? https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

A.

[ah_dut]

so rt hon areseclown who cares kill them burn them mug em the inquisition has a lot to answer for https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Kali]

Quote[/b] (ArseClown @ July 19 2004,00:15)]Have you ever noticed that for some strange reason, your bishops and / or cardinals are gaining stars for no apparent reason?

Everyone knows they get stars for negotiating alliances / ceasefires. Did you know they also get stars for saving your generals from the torch? https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

A.
https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I Didn't know that.
Usefull info,
Thanx.

[Despot of the English]

Another good way to defend yourself from Inquisitors is to have provinces with very low zeal - you can achieve this by using Inquisitors who will occasionally and automatically start trying the inhabitants of a province and when the bodies start piling up the zeal goes down. This makes it harder for there to be a successful inquisition because there aren't as many fanatics.

Having a good assassin is the most satisfying way to remove an Inquisition problem. I remember I had one playing as the English once and by sheer luck I had trained Guy of Gisburne (5 valour) and he promptly despatched a 4 valour Inquisitor. The Inquisitor had already condemned for heresy one of my 5-star generals though https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-furious3.gif .

[dessa14]

the way to handle assasians if you really want to is to have spies everywhere you can.
not only does this prevent assasians but it also warns you of attacks and such, and you can always use them in your breeding. by killing off weak crown princes.
thanks,
dessa

[The_Emperor]

As a rule I like to have at least one Bishop/Cardinal in each province to convert and spy for me... They tend not to get assassinated as much as Emisseries and don't have the problem of always getting caught like proper Spies.

When protecting against assassins, Border Forts and your own spies/assassins are a must... But some do get through.

As for Inquisitors, I quite like high zeal in all my provinces. It typically makes very high Piety generals and helps if I decide to 'trim' the royal line of any bad heirs or disloyal generals through use of my own Inquisitors.

Always assassinate any inquisitor you see on the map if he is not yours, that way you can have Inquisitor Superiority. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Doug-Thompson]

Something most people know, but should be mentioned: On the campaign map, pressing the Z key will show agents only. Pressing it again will show armies or stacks only. Pressing it one more time will bring both unit types back on the map.

Also, pressing C will toggle fortifications on and off.

I like to clear the display of armies and cities once in a while, especially when playing Catholics, to keep track of agents -- especially inquisitors.

Frankly, I hate them. However, I don't pursue them to the death. They'll usually leave the province if all you do is assign an assassin to them. I keep high-valor assassins in all border provinces, especially ports, and attack inquisitors as soon as they cross my border.

The AI cheats. It knows when a contract has been put on one if its agents. It then moves that agent somewhere like a friendly province to drag your assassin through a border fort.

I don't see any good point to losing assassins once I've scared off the inquisition, so I break off the chase -- once they leave.

[katank]

@Despot. Guy of Gisbourne is a hero. he is a guaranteed 5*. if you take and hold Syria (very good idea as consolidation of control over crusader states), and build to a fortress rookery, you get 5* assasins all the time.

doug's right. now I'm having fun with agents and after assigning tasks to all my armies and build orders etc., I use z and c to start agent:total backstab as someone called it.

my Syria boys have cleared out about half the map of agents.