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Tozama
07-19-2004, 15:25
So I have done a great job (pats self on back) of marrying princesses in and among other factions right from turn #1 and keeping my king busy enough to have many stars.
This produced EXCELLENT heirs for the entire game for me. I didn't even have to bother marrying off my daughters after my first king died but the dynasty was rich with good heirs with nice virtues.

Keeping the above in mind, every so often the AI mixed in a crappy heir with not so great vices like strange who once achieving of age was put to the top of the heir list https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif Can't let that happen
So instead of using my 5 star assassin I do as I usually do and send him all by himself to attack a 1-3 stack enemy somewhere https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Often the first attack he won't die but he retreats. I simply send him in again and he usually dies a valiant death.
Well, last night I get a 7 star heir with a strange vice as next in line to be king and since I have an 8 star heir with good virtues already below him I send the strange one to his doom in Anatola vs. 3 stacks of crack Egyptain forces there.
SOB Same turn the Eqyptians send all but a few hundred junk troops into a neighboring province and my prince crushes the remaining defenders all by himself I get control of Anatola and I look at my prince. He now has both skilled risky attacker AND expert attacker https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

I decided ahhhhh.what the heck....Britain was famous for strange kings anyway and I let him ascend the throne.
I have a ton of money in the bank so his lower acuman and vice won't bring down the empire anyway. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-toff.gif

mdutr0
07-19-2004, 15:32
Don't you just love Jedi Generals? When they're yours anyway...


I'd be interested to see just how fast you could ramp up his valor doing crap like that. Risky though....


Thanks,

Micah

Lord Godfrey
07-19-2004, 16:36
When you send an undeserving heir on a suicide mission, dismount his unit prior to the battle to prevent a successful retreat. You could also keep the “strange” and other bad vice heirs and try to give them good vices thru game play - adds a little more challenge to the game.

Darth Binky
07-19-2004, 18:29
I was once playing as France and had a king I didn't like.

So rather than keep a bad king on the throne, I decided to try a similar trick- I sent him off, by sea (since he'd get captured more easily, and I could refuse the ransom), to attack Polish held Prussia. There was a decent stack of troops waiting for him.

My king slaughtered them. Singlehandedly took Prussia.

I then took Volnhya (sp?) with him. Against a larger army. Same deal.

He finally got whacked charging headlong into a much larger army in Kiev, I think it was.

So it took a bit longer than I hoped, but I did wind up killing him.

Assassins_Shadow
07-19-2004, 22:25
I've never purposely tried to kill a king or an heir, but while I was playing the Vikings in VI, I would quite often just take a powerful army and romp across England. This was a good tactic, but one time while I was on one of these merry little walks, one of my heirs matures without me noticing. I move my king and the rest of my stack into the next territory, intent on raiding and my heir is attacked by a huge group of Northumbrian troops. I autocalced the battle for fun(once I realized what I was doing). He didn't win, but his huscarles did take 400 northumbrains with them to the grave https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Doug-Thompson
07-19-2004, 22:31
Well, I guess somebody would have to be crazy to attack that many troops by himself.

ah_dut
07-19-2004, 23:27
I tried to kill a jedi 1 star prince before, cos he was 1 star, all his beos were 7 8 or 9 star lads. he slaughtered about 10-15 rebel and eggy armies. he became a 5 star after a decade or so, so i kept him on the suicide run, he became like valour 50 at the end, so much fortrying to kill him, he's my new anti jedi, jedi https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

lonewolf371
07-19-2004, 23:31
Nice job, I wish I could get that lucky. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Comtempt
07-20-2004, 01:18
A 50 Valour general? My god man, have that one general defend a choke point by himself and save your self the support costs of having large armies to defend your lands.

ah_dut
07-20-2004, 11:45
I can't m8, he's too damn slow to chase horse archers, that's where a unit of steppe lights come in blitz them and hold then let the hammer of god come in and smash the HA's faces up https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

katank
07-20-2004, 16:27
is he only 1 man? be terrible if he got pinned and hit by naptha or siege. arrows and esp. javs can do great damage too.