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English assassin

08-13-2004, 13:22

What sports would you like to see dropped from the Olympics, and what should they be replaced by?

For me, they should get rid of anything to do with air rifles/pistols. If you are under 18, or a professional rat catcher, you have an excuse to be involved with air guns. Otherwise its like a grown adult playing with power rangers, sorry. Woo Hoo I won bronze in the men's indoor ten metre air pistol, come on, that's embarrassing. (Before anyone says it I am sure the men's indoor ten metre air pistol is very difficult and skillful. That doesn't make it either worthwhile or interesting to watch.)

I'd like to see them add rock climbing in instead though I admit I am not sure how you would make that competitive, on a climbing wall against the clock and with steadily fewer allowed holds I guess.

Big King Sanctaphrax

08-13-2004, 13:40

I say we add some really extreme sports, like shark wrestling or Cobra poking. I'd also like to see football gotten rid of. We've got enough football tournaments.

R'as al Ghul

08-13-2004, 13:58

I say we add some really extreme sports, like shark wrestling or Cobra poking. I'd also like to see football gotten rid of. We've got enough football tournaments.

We have more than enough football (soccer). I hate it. I don't watch any sports except Olympics on TV and occasionally Judo, Sumo or Kendo if they even show it.
Watching sports on TV bores the hell out of me. Yawn!
I agree on the airpistols. Have Yabusame instead.
I just saw a documentary were scientists tried to find out how the original disciplines were fought. The reconstruction of "Pancratio" (full contact fight without rules) was ugly to watch, although staged, it looked like a mean street fight.

R'as

Steppe Merc

08-13-2004, 15:29

I say we add in chariot racing, jousting, and mounted javilen throwing at your opponent. And get rid of swimming and all those other boring ones. And can't baseball, basketball or soccer or football be somewhere else? Mabye in the National team sport thingy.
edit: Oh, and mounted archery. Ooo, ooo, and broadsword dueling. :knight:

Sjakihata

08-13-2004, 16:06

I'd like to see Total War competition added to the sports

Orda Khan

08-13-2004, 18:31

Have you heard there is a move to get Darts incuded? Where will it end?

Football and tennis are two ridiculous inclusions in the Olympics. In the UK we have a fixation for track events ( don't ask me why, they just seem to think we all love it ) I find it nauseatingly boring to watch say the 10,000 metres ~:dizzy: ....all you need to see is the last lap.
I remember being bored for hours ( literally ) watching the first Triathlon event.
There are way too many events in swimming IMO.
I like the field events, weightlifting, judo but the trouble is if you blink you miss the coverage.

On the other hand, with all the drug nonsense, how credible are the games these days?

........Orda

Big King Sanctaphrax

08-13-2004, 18:38

I think we should have events where drugs are allowed. So the winner will be the person who can come up with the most effective doping program.

Goofball

08-13-2004, 22:58

I'd like to see front-end loader and back-hoe fights...

Big King Sanctaphrax

08-13-2004, 23:00

I'd like to see front-end loader and back-hoe fights...
That would own so hard. Reminds me, I'd like to see tractor pulling contests.

DemonArchangel

08-13-2004, 23:33

Roman Style Gladiator Fights.

Ithaskar Fëarindel

08-13-2004, 23:42

First a side note.

Nice to be here again, good to see everyone... like the decor. ~D

In the UK we have a fixation for track events ( don't ask me why, they just seem to think we all love it ) I find it nauseatingly boring to watch say the 10,000 metres

You are right, roads are better. Check with your local athletics club, there'll be a race coming up near you, guaranteed. Don't wory though, it might only be a 5k.

Big King Sanctaphrax

08-13-2004, 23:48

Long time no see, Ithsakar!

mercian billman

08-14-2004, 00:12

[QUOTE=English assassin]For me, they should get rid of anything to do with air rifles/pistols. If you are under 18, or a professional rat catcher, you have an excuse to be involved with air guns. Otherwise its like a grown adult playing with power rangers, sorry. Woo Hoo I won bronze in the men's indoor ten metre air pistol, come on, that's embarrassing. (Before anyone says it I am sure the men's indoor ten metre air pistol is very difficult and skillful. That doesn't make it either worthwhile or interesting to watch.)
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The original olympics were done to test martial skill. Thats why they had running events, javelin throws, and, combat sports. All the events were individual events not team sports. In staying with the spirit of the olympics any sport which involves shooting is a valid sport for the olympics. You may be of the opinion that shooting sports aren't worthwhile or intrseting but, alot of people would disagree with you. I would be in favor of getting rid of target shooting if they replaced it with combat shooting sports.

Personally I think they should get rid of all team sports in the summer olympics. We already have enough soccer tournaments and it wouldn't be to hard to establish a world cup of baseball. The olympics should return to it's roots; a contest which tests individual skill, track and field and, combat sports should be the emphasis of the olympics.

Some changes I would make to the combat sports would be,

Boxing or wrestling would become a winter event, this would allow for the possibility of someone to box and wrestle in the olympics.

Wrestling would eliminate one of it's disciplines; preferably greco-roman (I think greco is cool but, the casual fan wouldn't) and, become a freestyle tournament but, to compensate the number of weight classes would be increased to 10 (US college standards.) By eliminating 1 discipline and 4 wrestlers from each team the competition would be better and, easier for the casual fan to follow.

Red Peasant

08-14-2004, 10:17

The reconstruction of "Pancratio" (full contact fight without rules) was ugly to watch, although staged, it looked like a mean street fight.

R'as

The pankration sounded real hardcore. I read of one Olympic winner who was awarded his victory wreath posthumously, yet the loser lived. Apparently, the winner was in a choke-hold and his trachea was crushed, however, before expiring he managed to grab, twist and break his opponent's ankle who then submitted. The victor knew he had won but didn't live much longer.

Makes these WWF, XYZ, wrestling frauds look the real dopes they are.

Orda Khan

08-14-2004, 15:24

You are right, roads are better. Check with your local athletics club, there'll be a race coming up near you, guaranteed. Don't wory though, it might only be a 5k

That may be the case but does that make it any less boring to watch?
And I appreciate that taking part may be enjoyable ( I ran the first Cardiff Marathon ) but the last thing I would do is sit and watch a video of it. When it comes to watching the entire race I can just about stomach 800m. There again Brendan Foster is a good enough reason to switch off

.......Orda

lancelot

08-14-2004, 16:03

I want foose-ball (table football) in the olympics. (I think I could have a shot...yea..ok)

Rhino-polo, flaming football, crazy golf (would give that a go too) and mixed human/monkey table tennis would guarantee me sitting on my rear all day glued to the TV.

Thats for the guy sports for girls I only want a couple of things.

1) Olympic Cheerleading. Actually scratch that-Olympic swimsuit-modelling.

2) Olympic naked mud wrestling.

They really should put me in charge of things....

Tachikaze

08-15-2004, 04:18

I would eliminate all subjective judged events and leave the events with objective measurable scoring. I know that many of the judged events are fun to watch, but they lead to all kinds of trouble.

I definitely agree that mounted archery should be included.

Muneyoshi

08-15-2004, 04:19

Trampoline. Nuff' said.

LittleGrizzly

08-15-2004, 05:39

Mouzafphaerre

08-15-2004, 18:59

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Football (Soccer) and Boxing should go firstly.
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solypsist

08-15-2004, 19:20

ping pong

English assassin

08-16-2004, 14:10

ping pong

Except for the human/monkey mixed doubles Lancelot suggested. I REALLY want to see that now.

mfberg

08-16-2004, 14:10

synchronized diving - 'nuff said

Kaiser of Arabia

08-16-2004, 14:44

Deathmatch Boxing (boxing but you have to kill the dude)
M60 Duels
Mounted Broadsword Dueling
Grenade-down-the-pants-whoever-doesn't-screech-out-in-agony-wins

King Edward

08-16-2004, 15:19

Texas no limit hold 'em should be in there, man i love that game!!! (its poker for those who dont know!)

also darts and Snooker so the Uk wins more medals.

On a serious note, i'd love to see Rugby 7's in the Olympics, they had it at the last Commonwealth games and it was a big Success.

lancelot

08-16-2004, 16:13

Capo,

You're a pretty weird guy.

Although perhaps Celebrity Deathmatch (ala MTV) would be cool. At least that way we might get rid of a few rubbish celebs.

Jack Osbourne-step forward...

Despot of the English

08-16-2004, 21:45

I would like to see beer drinking and trashing town centres included in the Olympic program because at least then us Brits would win gold in both ~D .

Kaiser of Arabia

08-16-2004, 22:44

Capo,

You're a pretty weird guy.

Although perhaps Celebrity Deathmatch (ala MTV) would be cool. At least that way we might get rid of a few rubbish celebs.

Jack Osbourne-step forward...
Is that show even still on? I loved it but I cant seem to find it on tv anymore. The ps2 game is cool though.

Ja'chyra

08-17-2004, 08:27

synchronized diving - 'nuff said

I would like to expand this to include anything with the word synchronised in the title.

We were watching the gymnastics last night when the wife asked me "Do you think paedophiles watch this?" Something to think about maybe.

thrashaholic

08-17-2004, 09:23

On a serious note, i'd love to see Rugby 7's in the Olympics, they had it at the last Commonwealth games and it was a big Success.

Most definitely, but why not go the full whack and make it 15s, or both? but can you imagine the British team they could make: English forwards, Welsh backs, a token Scotsman ~;) . With Wilkinson, Shane Williams and Rhys Williams how could we lose?

Mind Rugby was in one of the olympic games a while back, but got dropped straight after. But re-introducing it would be a very good way to raise awareness of the sport in other countries.

Also, why don't we introduce a five-day test cricket tournament?

King Edward

08-17-2004, 10:14

Most definitely, but why not go the full whack and make it 15s, or both? but can you imagine the British team they could make: English forwards, Welsh backs, a token Scotsman ~;) . With Wilkinson, Shane Williams and Rhys Williams how could we lose?

Mind Rugby was in one of the olympic games a while back, but got dropped straight after. But re-introducing it would be a very good way to raise awareness of the sport in other countries.

Also, why don't we introduce a five-day test cricket tournament?

There is already an all British team, its called the Lions! They are Touring to New Zealand next summer. I think sevens is better for the Olympics as it is a bit of a leveller as far as the teams go and also its easier to watch for people who dont understand the full union rules.

Olympic Trivia: Who are the reigning Olyimpc Rugby Champions??

Clue: it is not who you'd expect it to be!

Do you mean a seperate test Cricket tournament or one at the Olympics? a 5 day a match tournament would be some marathon event. Twenety20 cricket would make a great olympic event!!

English assassin

08-17-2004, 10:22

Also, why don't we introduce a five-day test cricket tournament?

Because Australia would win and they are big headed enough about the olympics anyway. Although it would be fun to baffle Americans.

thrashaholic

08-17-2004, 10:25

There is already an all British team, its called the Lions! They are Touring to New Zealand next summer. I think sevens is better for the Olympics as it is a bit of a leveller as far as the teams go and also its easier to watch for people who dont understand the full union rules.

Olympic Trivia: Who are the reigning Olyimpc Rugby Champions??

Clue: it is not who you'd expect it to be!

Do you mean a seperate test Cricket tournament or one at the Olympics? a 5 day a match tournament would be some marathon event. Twenety20 cricket would make a great olympic event!!

Yeah, I know about the Lions, it should be an excellent tour this summer, but it includes Ireland, who are a separate country in olympic terms, so the UK team could only draw players from England, Wales, Scotland and Irish players from Ulster (who I think are relatively few in number) so it'd basically be a team made up of English and Welshmen.

I believe the reigning olympic Rugger champions are the USA if my memory serves me.

And I suggested that five day test cricket should be in the olympics as a bit of a joke, but you're right Twenty20 cricket would be very good for an olympic event. I mean baseball's played in the olympics, why not cricket? I'd wager more countries played cricket as a national sport than play baseball...

King Edward

08-17-2004, 10:34

Yeah, I know about the Lions, it should be an excellent tour this summer, but it includes Ireland, who are a separate country in olympic terms, so the UK team could only draw players from England, Wales, Scotland and Irish players from Ulster (who I think are relatively few in number) so it'd basically be a team made up of English and Welshmen.

I believe the reigning olympic Rugger champions are the USA if my memory serves me.

And I suggested that five day test cricket should be in the olympics as a bit of a joke, but you're right Twenty20 cricket would be very good for an olympic event. I mean baseball's played in the olympics, why not cricket? I'd wager more countries played cricket as a national sport than play baseball...

Yup it is the USA aparrenty it all kicked off into a massive brawl and they never played Rugby at the Olympics again.

I did think the 5 day cricket was a joke but had to make sure ~:) and i compleatly agree about more countries playing Cricket than Baseball, for a start there is no Baseball world cup!

he he My Irish Relatives would not be impressed with me Forgetting that they are not part of Britain!! ~:wacko:

shakaka36

08-17-2004, 11:06

how about a rum drinking competition?

King Edward

08-17-2004, 11:32

how about a rum drinking competition?

Or gin!!!! :barrel: :barrel: :barrel:

Mouzafphaerre

08-17-2004, 11:33

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Weightlifting for females should go too. Not ladylike. Women are nice things and should remain so. ~D
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JAG

08-17-2004, 12:40

King Edward

08-17-2004, 12:54

All the sports where the olympics is anything but the height of the sport. Sports like football, tennis, basketball etc. All these sports have other pinnicles the olympics is not it, half of the teams are a joke compared to what their country could put forward. So I think they are pretty useless, and should be got rid of.

I agree, the Olympics should be the best of the best, as is the case in many olympic events but the others which are not the full representitive sides of a country should not be allowed. Football and Basketball are examples of events where the teams representing some countries are a long way away from the best side those countries could field.

Althought a lot of the big names in tennis are compeating, Ferderer and Roddick are there for sure.

lancelot

08-17-2004, 20:52

Yea, but tennis 'pros' compete for prize money and gain income from sponsorship.

Pro footballers and such earn a wage which makes them 'technically' professionals.

Good tennis players can enter coz if they dont win at their sport, they dont get anything.

And you already have the world cup for various sports. If you include them, not many would bother watching anything else.