German emperor in a polish stack

[Tristuskhan]

Long ago I had a very strange phenomenon: I was fighting the germans and took all of their provinces, thinking I had destroyed them. But their were still on the faction's list... Ten turns after I recieved a message saying the emperor had died with none to replace him and the game crashed when the council took end... I reloaded and looked carefully... chasing the hun got Tyrolia revolting to become part of the polish kingdom, and the Holy Roman Emperor was part of a Polish stack! An assassin resolved the problem, but has anyone ever seen that? Marriing cousins is a long tradition for european kings, but I did not think this could get so far...

[solypsist]

your successful assassination probably avoided a future Returning Faction event.

[Spartiate]

You think that's bad.I had a Danish king die and i had no king or princes on the next turn yet the game wasn't over.About 20 turns later i got a message that my king had died and lo and behold i had a new king.Only happened that one time and it was before i got the VI expansion pack but i think i still have the save file somewhere.Odd..........

[hotingzilla]

Sometimes when I quick save in the pre-battle screen and then I quit and load the quicksave, it crashes.

[Ironside]

Once I had the Welsh king in one of my stacks as the Scots. I had inheritaged the Welsh lands by marriage and the king died soon afterwards, but the unit still had Welsh colours and what was even more wierd ~:dizzy: , he didn't show up on the battlefield. Instead another unit got the commander status, and that unit actually died in one battle but it didn't kill the former Welsh king's unit so I still got the commanding bonus. The downside was that he never could engage on the battlefield so he ended up with the second vice in the "not so bold" serie.
In the same game, the Mercians had two kings ~:eek: . One normal king and one armoured spearman as a king.

Here's some screens from a PBM campaign that shows something simular.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Ironside%20PBMTzar%20Buggy%20king.jpg
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Ironside%20PBMTzar%20Buggy%20germans.jpg
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Ironside%20PBMTzar%20Buggy%20King%202.jpg

I suspect that this is a sideffect of a king dies without hiers and a civil war broke out, but all the land joined an existing faction due to marriage. The Emperor had this happening to himself once. My guess about the extra king is that they are the king for that faction that ended up in this wierd status.

Why you had that CTD I'm uncertain on, but the game seems to be slightly unstable when this have happend, I had CTD when I was winning a 100% victory in the Scottish campaign (tried it multiple times), but the Russian one was ok.

And about the extra king. Don't try to suecide them, it will kill your king, but you can disband them.

[son of spam]

That's strange. the armored spear king doesn't have a crown next to his picture, but he's still royal blood or something? weird.

[bretwalda]

Sorry to be a little offtopic - You have mentioned that you could gain lands through marriage - how was that?

[EatYerGreens]

It's mentioned in the dialogue you get when you marry off your princess to another faction. It says they may have a claim to your lands, if your faction is eliminated, so it's "words of caution" about what you're planning to do with your princess, where you could, alternatively use them as an agent and a chance to cancel. There's no real effect since this elimination/inheritance situation essentially means 'game over', so you won't actually get to see that happening.

If you persuade another faction's princess to marry into your Royal line then you would equally be in a position to inherit their lands if they get wiped out but, in practice this won't happen in the game either because it will be either you or one of the other AI factions which wipes them out anyway. As good as it sounds, a 'claim' is not the same thing as a guarantee of ownership. I don't think other factions would take kindly to a request to hand over lands where they've just done the conquering, probably at the cost of many lives.

[Ironside]

Sorry to be a little offtopic - You have mentioned that you could gain lands through marriage - how was that?

Sorry for the long wait, I tried to get an upload on a pic of the Mongols :dizzy2: getting Denmark by marriage, but it didn't work.

You'll gain the possibility of inheriting land by getting another factions princess to marrying your king or crown-prince (I think, it's too rare to be 100% that only the crown-prince will work).

The inheritage will show up as a message saying that some (=all) minor rebel factions that the former faction splited up to joins an existing faction by marriage.
I suspect that when the factions dies with a civil war, no message shows up as I missed it when it happened to me and none noticed it in the PBM campaign showed below.
This is so simple that you'll get control of all the troops and provinces.

I think you have to atleast have peace and probably an alliance with that faction and possibly it need to be the same alliance as the one created by the marriage.

Edit: did finally work, here's the pic
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Ironside%20Inheritage%20by%20Marriage.jpg
I made Almughavars buildable in Aragon in case of wondering.