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Medieval Assassin
08-21-2004, 00:47
Medmod 3.14
MM Early Period
Expert
Germans.

It.
Can.
Not.
Be.
Done.

If anyone can complete this task, and has proof, They should get some sort of reward, Im not sure what it could be, but I'll see.

I can't even avoid a civil war, within 20 years, Im doomed.
CAN ANYONE PROVE ME WRONG?
ITS DRIVING ME INSANE.

Oaty
08-21-2004, 05:44
The Germans were easy the french were hard.

Did you build any watch towers?

Well in medmod you probably tried to hold onto province for too long. This is the # 1 territory you want to lose if any. Now Do'nt give it to them for free and do'nt spend to much blood to make them pay. If you hold onto it for too long the Italians will abandon all of there provinces and amass there whole army there. (this is what made the Frenchies so hard for me in medmod, I did'nt realize its better not to have a southern coast until you are prepared.) When I played with the Germans I abandoned provence as soon as the Italians invaded, wich turned out for the better unknown to my knowledge at that time.

Now that Germany was developing and short of cash, watch towers were being built as that was the only thing I could afford. I saw spearmen to the south(Italian spearclass troops) and cavalry to the west( French cavalry). It became apparent that I needed to move all my spearmen to the west and swords to the south. Unfortanately Italy was gutting the belly of the HRE wich I allowed(because I could not afford a full stomache). But I was flexing my triceps and biceps working on owning land of the western coast.

With the French defeated I now needed to fill my belly and Went south and regained lost land and finally smashing the Italians. Only then did Hungary and Poland try to make me a 1 armed empire but at that time the HRE was a stable empire.

The key points CA did'nt make the game fully balanced and the A.I. can fully abandon provinces that border only the A.I. w/o any repercussions wich the human ca'nt do(but is a great way to provoke a fight). So if you own any southern coastal territory, you risk the Italians amassing there whole army and attacking that 1 province that has a southern coastal territory. Then you are screwed because the Italians will keep advancing that army towards you while they do'nt have to defend there borders to other A.I. factions(wich is gay). Now if you abandon provence as soon as they attack(they should'nt have too big of an army to walk all over your empire) you can make a standoff with them or slowly let them gain land against you while you look elsewhere. Poland and Hungary are not big threats in the beginning with wesmod as they have rebels to attack(wich deters them from attacking human players) plus they are financially weak. So pick on the Frenchies (actually for me the Frenchies picked the fight) and secure a coast, with at least 1 safe direction to turn your back you should be ok.

Well heres my little words of wisdom for the HRE. It is ok to lose a little to gain a lot. That also probabaly simalar to one the quotes to shun tzu.

Wes even stated in his readme that the germans were tough but I guess since I'm one who does'nt care to lose territory when things look grim made them easy for me. Whil;e probably too many players out there just hate to lose land and spend every little florin they can just to save provence.

Well if you want the saved games(every5 years or so heres the rules)

Sit
Good doggie
Beg
Good doggie
Pant
Good doggie

Just throwing in a little humor, if ya want them I'll e-mail them too you but maybe my post has shined enough light on the subject.

Unfortanetely I figured I should look if I still have the saved games and I do'nt think I do, and if I do they are, they are stowed away on cd or sitting in a file. but if you are still interested I will take a deep look into my stored files

Kagetora
08-21-2004, 12:26
I have a better and much more difficult challenge, destoy the POPE, and destroy his uprisings every time they come. Lets see somebody do that.

Kagetora
08-21-2004, 12:28
Oaty, at what level do you play, see I'm all for the lose a little and gain alot, but when I do lose territoy I also lose the loyalty of my generals, and after a few more losings, I have a full scale civil war. How do you counter.

katank
08-23-2004, 22:37
blitz and extremely early aggression is your only path in medmod.

the Italians are also godly.

Italian light inf, pavisiers, pavise sailors are all OP beyond belief and can maul you like nothing.

Give up your Med coast or face huge attacks from the Italians.

Attacking the French is a pretty good idea before they get too much destriders out.

BTW, heerban are junk. knechte and dienstul(sp?) are pretty good and use the latter may be even better due to anticav abilities.

have fun!

Quokka
08-28-2004, 07:01
The only way I have managed to do it is to cheat a bit and make the Teutonic Spearmen available in Early. Then after losing the first few provinces I can usually build a few of these and my line will hold instead of melting.

noramis
08-28-2004, 07:20
I think I've done it ... not sure if it was Expert or Hard.

I went North into denmark, prussia, lithuania, etc. and built ships, took over the whole northern ocean.

Keep Provence, moved into France, gobbled up as many southern ports as possible and produced as many ships as possible.

Master the ocean and it is signifigantly easier. Especially in the north. The south was very hard ... and keep diplomatic relations as much as you can ... make allies at your borders then break them only when it is advantageous to do so.