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Don Corleone
08-21-2004, 22:01
I'm playing a game as Italians, High, Hard. Wondering when I can count on my wargalleys rolling out of the shipyard. Anyone know?

Blodrast
08-21-2004, 22:24
Compass is discovered in 1170, AFAIK.

Don Corleone
08-21-2004, 22:53
Not sure what AFAIK means. Okay, well, do you know why I can't build a shipbuilder's guild in a province that I have a citadel in the province in 1265?

Blodrast
08-21-2004, 23:02
AFAIK = As Far As I Know.

For ships better than level 2 (i.e., for catholics, other than barque and caravel, for muslim, other than dhow and dromon) you need several things: compass and High age are some of them.
Also to build Shipbuilder's Guild you'll need Citadel, Dockyard and Cannon Foundry.
My guess is that you don't have the last one ~:)

Don Corleone
08-21-2004, 23:11
Aaah... thanks. Never made it this late before. Usually I've conqured everything (starting on Early) or I got bored & quit. Okay, that makes sense. The Italians actually get a level 2.5 from Venice, because they start with a Shipbuilder's guild but no cannon foundry, so you can make war galleys (not gun galleys though).

Thanks for the help!

katank
08-23-2004, 22:44
the most advanced ships don't really do much.

just use the most basic fast ship and sacrifice a peasant or two in battle that turn to give a land defeat which makes the game engine feel sorry for you and gives you huge combat bonus on seas and gives very unbalanced results such as single dhow sinking 3 gungalleys yay!