Unit Valor Bonuses

[belac]

Long, long time lurker...looking for some information.

I am looking for province valor bonuses for units - no dice in Froggy's Unit guide, and I'm stumped looking elsewhere. Any suggestions?

I looking for valor bonuses that are listed and hidden as well.

Thanks!

[Malachus]

Ok let's see....
Scotland- Highland Clansmen
Genoa- Genoese Sailors
Trebizond- Trebizond Archers
Georgia- Jannisary Archers
Syria- Nizaris, Assassins
Anatolia- Turcoman Foot Soldiers
Wales- Longbows
Rum- Ottoman Infantry, Ottoman Sipahi
Antioch- Turcopole
Morocco/Algeria- Berber Camels
Sinai- Mamluk Horse Archers
Tripoli- Turcoman Horse Archers, Sipahi of the Porte
Rhodes- Hospitaller Foot Knights
Tuscany- Urban Militia
Mercia- Billmen
Norway- Vikings
Ile de France- Chivalric Foot Knights
Saxony- Gothic Knights
Granada- Almo Urban Militia
Ireland- Gallowglass
Provence- Peasants
Tyrolia- Pikemen
Switzerland- Swiss Pikemen
Cryenacia- Sahara Cavalry
Egypt- Mamluk Cavalry
Armenia- Armenian Cav
Lesser Armenia- Ghulam Cav
Nicaea- Pronoai Allagion
Constantinople- Kataphraktoi
Edessa- Ottoman Sipahi
Malta- Knights Hospitaller
Leon- Knights of Santiago
Palestine- Knights Templar
Prussia- Teutonic Knights
Toulouse- Chivalric Knights
Brandenburg- Gothic Foot Knights
Lithuania- Woodsmen
Tunisia- Dhow
Denmark- Longboat
Venice- Galley
Portugal- Caravel
Wessex- Cog
Aragon- Gungalley
Castille- Inquistor, Grand Inquisitor
Bulgaria- Bulgarian Brigands, (I think maybe Janissary Heavy Infantry have a valor bonus here too, but I'm not sure)

Hope that helps.

~:eek:

[belac]

Gracias!

A link to the page, or straight off the top of your head? ~:)

[Maeda Toshiie]

Ok let's see....
Scotland- Highland Clansmen
Genoa- Genoese Sailors
Trebizond- Trebizond Archers
Georgia- Jannisary Archers
Syria- Nizaris, Assassins
Anatolia- Turcoman Foot Soldiers
Wales- Longbows
Rum- Ottoman Infantry, Ottoman Sipahi
Antioch- Turcopole
Morocco/Algeria- Berber Camels
Sinai- Mamluk Horse Archers
Tripoli- Turcoman Horse Archers, Sipahi of the Porte
Rhodes- Hospitaller Foot Knights
Tuscany- Urban Militia
Mercia- Billmen
Norway- Vikings
Ile de France- Chivalric Foot Knights
Saxony- Gothic Knights
Granada- Almo Urban Militia
Ireland- Gallowglass
Provence- Peasants
Tyrolia- Pikemen
Switzerland- Swiss Pikemen
Cryenacia- Sahara Cavalry
Egypt- Mamluk Cavalry
Armenia- Armenian Cav
Lesser Armenia- Ghulam Cav
Nicaea- Pronoai Allagion
Constantinople- Kataphraktoi
Edessa- Ottoman Sipahi
Malta- Knights Hospitaller
Leon- Knights of Santiago
Palestine- Knights Templar
Prussia- Teutonic Knights
Toulouse- Chivalric Knights
Brandenburg- Gothic Foot Knights
Lithuania- Woodsmen
Tunisia- Dhow
Denmark- Longboat
Venice- Galley
Portugal- Caravel
Wessex- Cog
Aragon- Gungalley
Castille- Inquistor, Grand Inquisitor
Bulgaria- Bulgarian Brigands, (I think maybe Janissary Heavy Infantry have a valor bonus here too, but I'm not sure)

Hope that helps.

~:eek:

That list looks real familiar.

JHI at Bulagaria confirmed.

[Leodegar]

i have a question concerning valour boni for chivalric/gothic foot knights.

as you can't build just foot knights, i suppose you get a bonus for chivalric knights from ile de france only if you use them dismounted in battle, but not if you use them mounted, right?

and for chivalric knights from toulouse, do you only get the bonus if you use them mounted or even if they are dismounted?

[YAKOBU]

Hi Leodegar ~:wave:

AFAIK you are correct. The Ile de France bonus is only while dismounted whilst the Toulouse bonus is only while mounted.

[SlyConqueror]

I want to ask why do I get units like Bllmen in Mercia ot Longbowmen in Wales with 3, 4 or 5 valour. Should not I get maximum 2 valour units if a have master level building and province bonus + 1 valour. Why is this happening i have and a church too, but i dont think this is the decision.I notice things like this in other provinces too. I get New units with 2, 3 or more valour without any reason.

[Fragony]

I want to ask why do I get units like Bllmen in Mercia ot Longbowmen in Wales with 3, 4 or 5 valour. Should not I get maximum 2 valour units if a have master level building and province bonus + 1 valour. Why is this happening i have and a church too, but i dont think this is the decision.I notice things like this in other provinces too. I get New units with 2, 3 or more valour without any reason.

Must be awful to be you ~:p Does your king has skyhigh influence by any chance?

[Sinner]

The Ile de France bonus for Chivalric Foot Knights and the Brandenburg bonus for Gothic Foot Knights only appear to come into effect for the occasional rare instance where those units appear as part of a rebellion. During my editing of campaign files I've come across no tracking of where a unit was built, so CKs from Ile de France should be treated like CKs from Normandy or Wessex or any other region, and so won't get a valour bonus for dismounting. I may be wrong, meaning there's a flag somewhere that I haven't found; I'll have to finally build a CK in Ile de France to check.

The region bonuses for CFK & GFK are more likely to be holdovers from a pre-release version of MTW when you could build them as distinct units. Personally, I just mod them to be buildable and the problem is thus solved.


Slyconqueror: Are those units appearing with a leader with Command 2+ or in a stack with a general with the same? Either will increase the effective Valour, and if the latter it can be easily demonstrated by removing the unit from the general's stack, you'll see the Valour drop to its true base value.

[belac]

Thanks for the info - I understood some provinces did not have an official "listing" in the game as to unit valor bonuses. Still, I knew of hidden bonuses, but wasn't sure where.

Thanks!