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TechnoMage of Shadows
07-13-2002, 08:12
Barocca just phoned me and asked me to post,
he's not going to register another name,
if you don't unban him he will simply never post here again.

The information he posted is FREE DOMAIN

Informaion
simply break Daphne's domain name down to IP
the result is
212.36.147.193

enter THIS into any reputable domain search engine with reverse lookup and the result is the information he posted

the phone number posted is the OFFICE daphne is registered to

the address he posted is the OFFICE location daphne is registered to

ALL FREE DOMAIN INFORMATION
NOT PERSONAL DETAILS
- NOW UN BAN BAROCCA IMMEDIATELY HE HAS BROKEN NO RULES AT ALL

[This message has been edited by TechnoMage of Shadows (edited 07-13-2002).]

[This message has been edited by TechnoMage of Shadows (edited 07-13-2002).]

MiniKiller
07-13-2002, 08:14
wow you seem upset, maybe the mods who banned him felt that it wasnt right for him to post that?

TechnoMage of Shadows
07-13-2002, 08:23
Barocca posted Free Domain Information about the Daphne server which hosts our chatrooms allowing us to play online.

no personal details

he broke NO RULES

and he gets banned?

Are they going to ban me for pointing that out?

MiniKiller
07-13-2002, 08:26
I am not sure, I dont think they would but they might just close this topic, I didnt see it but if it was free, they had to be another reason..

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-13-2002, 08:32
Barocca has NOT been banned, of that i am sure. Maybe he should try to post again. If this just happened about 10 minutes ago, it's probably he was posting something when the forum's we're being worked on.

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La vie est un don.

TechnoMage of Shadows
07-13-2002, 08:37
As i type this I am on the phone to barocca
he just tried to post,
his name and password are not recognised
.

Shiro
07-13-2002, 08:40
He was not banned. Yes, I deleted parts of his post and no I'm not sure it was the right thing to do.

Information on how to make bombs is available on the web and is free but that doens't mean you can post it here. I just mention it...

I'm not totally sure I understand the situation. I saw it as Barocca posting personal information (such as his address) of a guy who works for EA. Please explain it in fuller detail to me.

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“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
—Samuel Johnson

[This message has been edited by Shiro (edited 07-13-2002).]

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-13-2002, 08:43
I will go and try to find his account. Tell Barocca not to worry , NOBODY has been banned. Like i stated work has been going on with the UBB board to change things in the forums. At worst it is a technical probem. Tell him to log out of the org and then try to log back in. If he is trying to post in the General discussion forum , it won't work because the tiltle has been changed (for the system the general discussion forum does not exist anymore-can't post in a forum that does not exist)"

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-13-2002, 08:45
Just checked his account it's still there. I really think that he should just get out of and log back in.

Keep me posted

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La vie est un don.

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-13-2002, 08:47
Shiro can you go and check to see if you have mod powers in the med forum? Because i can't test it myself.

Keep me posted.

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La vie est un don.

Shiro
07-13-2002, 08:48
Sure thing boss. Why not sign on to ICQ though so we can keep in better touch, eh?

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“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
—Samuel Johnson

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-13-2002, 08:50
OK try dialing me up.

Shiro
07-13-2002, 08:54
Dunno...just sent you a message. Doesn't seem to be working. You can try me. My # is in the profile.

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“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
—Samuel Johnson

TechnoMage of Shadows
07-13-2002, 08:58
barocca just tried to reply to Shiro,
no joy.
he's going to reboot and then try again,

in the meantime,

Shiro,
reverse lookup provides information on the registered owner of the IP range or Domain name,
The phone numbers and email details are the people to contact if there is any problem,
ie a user spamming from that IP range.

Sometimes the registered details are not the people who actually maintain the equipement, often this is taken on by third parties.

As is the case with the chatservers we use.

If you follow my instructions above and start digging into the links,
(check them all if you do not understand the shorthand they use and all will become clear)

you will eventually come up with the company who actually maintains the server,

In our case that is Colt Telecommunications!

From there you start following links and see if they lease from another provider - often happens, sometime you have to dig through 3 or 4 levels to get to the root provider!

In our case EA lease access to the Internet from Colt, Colt personnell are listed as maintenance and admin contacts, therefore the servers are maintained by Colt as well.

From previous contacts during server outages EA always talk about they have contacted the people who run the server..blah blah blah...
asumption- EA don't run the server!

If you wish I can provide you with the Email for Colt's webmasters (there are 2 addresses)
(listed as first instance contacts)

I could also provide several direct contacts,
(listed as second instance contacts)

- or you can follow all my instructions and find it all out for yourself.

need any more info?

Shiro
07-13-2002, 09:17
All right. I think I've come to understand the situation. You have managed to legally get the name of one of the people who run the servers. Well done and congrats. I hope you will contact that person and straighen things out.

Yet,

I do people that information is invasive of a person's privacy. Posting it here is like putting it on a billboard and believe that it is inappropriate to do so. .Org doesn't want to be seen as doing anything to take someone's privacy away.

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“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
—Samuel Johnson

barocca
07-13-2002, 09:22
Testing - again
seems i got dumped out in the shuffle?

could not post anywhere, not even the mod/patch forum...

SO,
I can't post what I find,

Can I post how to find?

and generic contacts - ie webemaster@xyz.net - thats ok?

* fingers crossed, begin Mantra:-
Ooommmm
no "name not recognised" message
Ooommmm
no "name not recognised" message
Ooommmm *

[This message has been edited by barocca (edited 07-13-2002).]

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-13-2002, 09:35
Glad to see you back Barocca. Just bad timing, you we're probably posting at exactly the same time that i was pushing one of those buttons to change the forum's name.

As for the question at hand, i must insist that all of us refrain posting that type of info.

Shiro is correct when he mentions that we have to be very prudent regarding anything that can have just the APPEARANCE of an invasion of privacy. We have no budget for staff members and even less for lawyers http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif. He did the right thing for the org by deleting the info.

Furthermore, i do not want to open a Pandora's box here....

I do hope you can understand even if you disagree.

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La vie est un don.

MizuKokami
07-13-2002, 09:45
can he post..."i have useful information http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-13-2002, 09:52
Quote Originally posted by MizuKokami:
can he post..."i have useful information http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif[/QUOTE]

Lol http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif



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La vie est un don.

soso
07-13-2002, 10:17
Hi guys.

I know this is a rare appearance for me here in the ORG forums, but I feel compelled to post here in light of recent circumstances involving my friend B and Clan Doragon (part of the Gamerz Syndicate Family -- yeah I'm name dropping http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif).

I must say that what he posted is in no way an infringement of personal privacy especially if it is a "public company".

What I mean to say is that anyone can look up someone's IP address and get a general accounting of the company they use and country they reside in. But it is very rare that a company would provide explicit personal information to the world. It is just not done. Unless you are a moron or have nothing to lose from the public access.

See for yourself. My general IP address is 208.61.123.45 the last two numbers are pretty meaningless, but the first two are needed for specific identification.

Check my number and tell me if you can find out who I am. I live in Miami, Florida, USA. However, if you do a look up it will report Atlanta, Georgia, USA. As a matter of fact one of the services I use reports for about 15 states up and down the Eastern seaboard and West. So you see how vague it really is.

The most commonly used lookup is the WHOis IP reverse lookup. Legal and used most likely on YOU many times buy companies trying to sell you stuff.

Anyway, as always I drag things out. Hope this helps to clear things up a little bit.

I feel that B did nothing wrong and his post was informative. He is actively trying to support the community by researching all avenues and exploring all possibilities in order to rectify this ongoing disaster of a situation created by people who could care less about OUR online enjoyment, not to mention that we paid for it.

Good job B.

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Cheers,

SoSo gzsadm@hotmail.com
The Gamerz Syndicate (http://www.carpe-vinum.net/gzs/)
Where the Gamerz Gather

[This message has been edited by Sir Kuma of The Org (edited 07-14-2002).]

Puzz3D
07-13-2002, 18:25
It's clear that the moderators don't want this site being used to solve the server down issue or the registration issue. And, I don't think I want to post anymore infomation about the game here either.

soso
07-13-2002, 21:15
Fair enough. However, this is a Shogun Total War forum right?



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Cheers,

SoSo gzsadm@hotmail.com
The Gamerz Syndicate (http://www.carpe-vinum.net/gzs/)
Where the Gamerz Gather

Shiro
07-13-2002, 21:23
Quote Originally posted by Puzz3D:
It's clear that the moderators don't want this site being used to solve the server down issue or the registration issue. And, I don't think I want to post anymore infomation about the game here either.[/QUOTE]

Though you may be joking - you are being completely unfair. I would like nothing better than to have the server and registration fixed. I love this game too!!!

However, I really don't think it's fair to post someone's address no matter how the information was gotten.

You all know how to get the information anyway or so it seems. I am wating for a response to puzz's email and I hope he will make the message public.

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“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
—Samuel Johnson

barocca
07-13-2002, 23:40
what about
if i simply post
I have Usefull FREE DOMAIN information,
and everybody can follow my link to my clan's forum?

after all the email addy's are not private emails,
but rather the email you are supposed to contact if there is a problem with the server,
yes they have peoples names on them, but those guys are the advertised server admins...

comments?

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DoragonBarocca of Clan Doragon (http://doragon.cjb.net)

barocca
07-13-2002, 23:41
ps the info is not on my clan forum yet
i want to see what the admins here think first...

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-14-2002, 08:06
Sorry all, i am going to be quite rude, got to clean up here. A number of posts have been simply deleted others edited.

I don't want the thread to close.
Heated debate about a subject is more than welcome as long as it stays within the boundaries of forum etiquette (forum rules).

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La vie est un don.

[This message has been edited by Sir Kuma of The Org (edited 07-14-2002).]

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-14-2002, 08:31
Quote Originally posted by barocca:
ps the info is not on my clan forum yet
i want to see what the admins here think first...[/QUOTE]


The new forum administrator (yep-it's me) thinks that if getting the MP server online is the real objective then what are you waiting for to use it? Why haven't you posted it yet on your clan's forum?

Nah, i think you just like debating over this. That's cool http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif as long as it stays civil.

Notice that i have not directly answered your question, the simple reason is that i like this exchange of ideas also and i am thinking this over...

barocca
07-14-2002, 13:27
I have been updating the clans website all day, and testing demo mods,

anyhow here is a link to a topic of interest on my Clan's Forum
http://pub7.ezboard.com/fthegreathall92696frm1.showMessage?topicID=718.topic


http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

07-14-2002, 15:18
Thank you Kuma http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://www.totalwar.org/kenchikuka)
evil is within us... http://www.totalwar.org/site/emomalta.gif

soso
07-14-2002, 20:41
Yes thank you Kuma good job.

Also, great work B I have sent e-mails to both addy's. (Yes I was very very polite and professional)

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Cheers,

SoSo gzsadm@hotmail.com
The Gamerz Syndicate (http://www.carpe-vinum.net/gzs/)
Where the Gamerz Gather

james
07-14-2002, 20:56
good job,what alot of confusion

Gregoshi
07-14-2002, 23:47
There is hope for humanity after all...

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Gregoshi
A Member of Clan Doragon

Rokkaku
07-17-2002, 02:51
hey, this is like a conspiracy theory
cool....

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"U dare challenge the drunken ninjas!"
Rokkaku of the Drunken Ninjas

Rokkaku
07-17-2002, 02:52
whoes the top man.
Kuma, Tera or Shiro

Shiro
07-17-2002, 03:28
Kuma - Admin of forums

Tera - Admin of website (Not the owner, that would be dan, but the guy who updates everything)

Shiro - lowly moderator

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“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
—Samuel Johnson

[This message has been edited by Shiro (edited 07-16-2002).]

Sir Kuma of The Org
07-17-2002, 09:37
Quote Originally posted by Shiro:
Kuma - Admin of forums

Tera - Admin of website (Not the owner, that would be dan, but the guy who updates everything)

Shiro - lowly moderator

[/QUOTE]


Correction: Shiro- Great moderator http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

The mods are essential to the forums, much more than the pencil pusher admins http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif


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La vie est un don.

Rokkaku
07-18-2002, 00:44
your puttin yourself down

ShadesWolf
08-04-2002, 23:21
Seeing this has now been sorted out. I have closed it.