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Stormer
09-19-2004, 20:01
lol didnt know where this should go but who would win a fight between a lion and a tigar they are both big cats and who would win in a 1v1 showdown :book:

DemonArchangel
09-19-2004, 20:15
Lion.
http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict.html

Meneldil
09-19-2004, 20:15
Lions aren't that good at fighting, they usually let their wife do the job of hunting and things like that. From what I know, they spend their time sleeping and eating, (as any common cat), while Tigers are rather solitary and used to hunt by themselves (and I think Tigers are bigger than lions)

ah_dut
09-19-2004, 20:48
The tiger at equal weight, agression etc will win as it in general is more assed ot fight. Also as stated b4, lions hunt in packs and let females do all the fighting, so a female lioness may have a chance but a tiger IMO will win

The Blind King of Bohemia
09-19-2004, 20:51
A tiger no question, but a polar bear would take both of them and kick there ass :duel:

Stormer
09-19-2004, 20:54
that link you gave me doesnt really give a great point why its better i still think the tigar would win a 1v1 combat even if the lion is taller a the shoulders the tigar is still longer and heavyier.

DemonArchangel
09-19-2004, 23:47
Most the Tiger's muscles are in its legs, while the lion has more heavily paddeed muscles in its shoulders and forelimbs. Cats tend to use their upper bodies to fight each other anyway, so the lion will win.

Fragony
09-20-2004, 01:48
Lion will beat tiger. Tigers are solitary animals, lions learn to fight for their food from day one.

Armchair Athlete
09-20-2004, 02:12
A Tiger. Those things are massively powerful, it would just take the lion apart with ease.

DisruptorX
09-20-2004, 03:27
Tigers can grow to be much larger than lions, so it is likely that it would be the victor.

Suppiluliumas
09-20-2004, 05:49
It is strange how pervasive the erroneous view that male lions do not hunt can be. They most certainly do and they fight as well. That said, when two similar predators fight in the wild, the single most important determining factor is which one weighs the most. One on one, that would generally favor the tiger.

Meneldil
09-20-2004, 06:29
I think it's a known fact that lions do not usually hunt, but let females do it. It might not be 100% true, but in almost all (not to say all) documentaries I've seen, she-lions were hunting, while lions were just sleeping or messing around.

Suppiluliumas
09-20-2004, 19:19
Like I said, very pervasive...

Meneldil
09-20-2004, 20:14
Heh, if you don't have any way to prove me that these documentaries give us false/screwed up informations, I don't know why I would consider them as being erronous.

I could say something like 'It is strange how pervasive the erroneous view that dinosaurs have disapeared can be'. Yeah nice. Do I have any proof ? Not really, but well, who cares anyway ~:handball:

Gregoshi
09-20-2004, 20:40
This isn't really a historical based discussion, so I'm moving it to the Tavern's Frontroom where light, off topic subjects are discussed. However, if the last few posts are any indication as to where this topic is going, it might get bounced to the Backroom where all the heated discussion happen. :inquisitive:

Bob the Insane
09-20-2004, 20:42
Male lions have to hunt as there are plents of lones males or small groups of males not in prides...

And as for fighting, while the females may do the bulk of the hunting in a pride the male will do most, if not all, of the fighting... It is his role in life..

Still think a tiger would win as it is basically bigger and stonger...

Oaty
09-20-2004, 21:49
The fight is to the tigers advantage(but barely) but both have a chance of winning. There have been documented cases where the lion has won. And there are cases where both have died from the wounds. Most of these fights have been arranged by people from within a monarchy and due to the small audience they are'nt well documented and on top of that there was never a significant # of these fights arranged to have a reliable statistic.

When the fight starts the lion will usually attempt to break the tigers legs whereas a tiger will go for the neck and due to a lions large main it helps protect the lion. So it boils down to who gets the first critical strike in.

Some lions have run into many confrontations with hyenas. The problem lions have with Hyenas is that hyenas have a bite that packs more pounds per square inch than a lion can. Hyenas do try to take advantage of this and will break a lions leg if the oppurtunity arises.

Now does a tiger have a common enemy? They are the real king of the jungle as they run into a lot less confrontations than a lion does. This is to the lions advantage 1 brought in from the wild would have good experience in fighting whereas the tiger would only be experienced with its own kind usually.

son of spam
09-21-2004, 02:20
Thought you were talking about football at first.

I'd say the Tigger would win, cause he would jump around and smoke that lion. He's deadly with his tail.

Suppiluliumas
09-21-2004, 05:38
Heh, if you don't have any way to prove me that these documentaries give us false/screwed up informations, I don't know why I would consider them as being erronous.

I could say something like 'It is strange how pervasive the erroneous view that dinosaurs have disapeared can be'. Yeah nice. Do I have any proof ? Not really, but well, who cares anyway ~:handball:



You are the second individual on this board that has insisted I prove their undocumented assertion to be false. You have misplaced the burden of proof my friend, and done so in a very petulant manner.

Papewaio
09-21-2004, 05:56
The higher up in the hierachy the less hunting a male lion does. They do still hunt. But the lioness has to look after her young and young male lions who are rogue have to hunt for themselves or with the help of other young males (typically a sibling).

Magraev
09-21-2004, 07:34
I voted for the tiger (size does matter).

Still the lion has some advantages, like the mane which prevents easy neck-bites (the tiger likes to crush the neck).

TonkaToys
09-21-2004, 08:52
I vote Tiger! RAAAR

:hide:

OK, sorry about that... letting my inner voice do the talking is not always a good thing.


Anyway... the Lion would have the advantage if it were a fight "in the wild" ... (I know, highly improbable due to the fact they live on different continents and in different environments) ... because the Tiger would be solo whilst the Lion(s) would be fighting as part of a Pride (English collective noun for a pack of lions).

Suppiluliumas
09-21-2004, 19:33
While the asiatic lion is nearly extinct, there is actually one sizeable community of them left. About three hundred live in the Gir Forest in India, a game preserve dedicated especially to the asiatic lion. National Geographic did an enteresting write up on it that could probably be found on thier web page.

JAG
09-21-2004, 19:36
Lion would slap him down!

Snowhobbit
09-21-2004, 19:58
Didn't we have a discussion like this recently?
If I remember correctly it was the "liger" that won, a cross between a tiger and a lion, only seven in the whole world if my memory serves me right.

son of spam
09-21-2004, 21:21
Didn't we have a discussion like this recently?
If I remember correctly it was the "liger" that won, a cross between a tiger and a lion, only seven in the whole world if my memory serves me right.

Why isn't it called a Tion? Or a Tigron?

DisruptorX
09-21-2004, 21:28
Why isn't it called a Tion? Or a Tigron?
:thumbsup: for "Tigron"

Snowhobbit
09-21-2004, 21:44
I'm almost 100% that it was called Liger.
Although Tigron sounds cooler.

Sir Chauncy
09-22-2004, 12:21
Actually both names are perfectly valid, Liger and Tigron.

They are both totally different animals though: A liger is a male lion and female tiger. A tigron is a Male Tiger and a female lion.

The interesting thing about these animals is not the marking on them but the difference in size. Ligers are far far smaller than Tigrons for qite frankly amazing reasons: The gene that limits growth for the Lion is in the

Lazul
09-22-2004, 12:26
My bird called Biggles in the cage next to me says he would take em both with one wing tied to his side! muahah :laugh4:

... ok im gonna go and take my pills now :bow:

Sir Chauncy
09-22-2004, 12:34
Actually both names are perfectly valid, Liger and Tigon.

They are both totally different animals though: A Liger is a male lion and female Tiger. A Tigon is a male tiger and a female lion.

The interesting thing about these animals is not the marking on them but the difference in size. Ligers and Tigons are far bigger than there parents for quite frankly amazing reasons: The gene that limits growth for these cats is in the female, consequently as a result They both have funny size differences... check this out.

http://www.sierrasafarizoo.com/animals/liger.htm

and are much bigger because they don't know when to stop growing...

monkian
09-22-2004, 15:23
http://perin.atthefaire.com/KRF_2001/Liger_2.jpg

This Liger would win ~D

Long ago, outside the old city of Singapore, which was considered to be the city of Lions, there was reported to be giant brown beasts. This was before the Asiatic lion was reduced to such low numbers that their are now less than 200 left in the Gir forest. This huge animal might just be an explanation for this myth, for he is neither a lion nor a tiger, but he is about the size of both of them combined. The liger is the world's largest big cat. An average male liger weighs over 900 pounds and standing almost 12 feet tall.

The reason that they are called a liger is because the father was a lion and the mother was a tiger. If the situation was reversed and the mother was a lion and the father was a tiger, he would be called a tigon, and would be a dwarf instead of a giant. A fully grown tigon is usually less that 350lbs. Ligers are not sterile, and they can reproduce. If a liger were to reproduce with a tiger, it would be called a titi, and if it were to reproduce with a lion, it would be call a lili.

Ligers are not something we planned on having. We have lions and tigers living together in large enclosures. We had no idea how well one of the lion boys was getting along with a tiger girl. Low and behold, she had giant brown babies, and we knew we had ourselves some ligers.

Our ligers were raised on a baby bottle, and they still enjoy getting them as treats. They are not tame from these activities, they are trained to behave. They will still bite or even kill someone given the right set of circumstances. Our liger could easily eat a hundred pound of food in a sitting but they tends to gain a little extra weight so we feed them about 25 pound of food a night. People often ask what our big cats eat. They love to eat something called, King Lion diet, which is made basically by taking a horse, a cow, a couple of pigs and a flock of chickens and putting them into a blender on high with all they parts and pieces. This ends up looking like a raw bloody meatloaf. They also enjoy restaurant quality chicken thigh quarters and chunk beef.

econ21
10-01-2004, 11:17
Lion: I agree with DemonArchangel for the reasons given in the website he links. The protective mane of the male lion gives it an edge over the tiger who would go for the throat. And the male lion's almost sole raison d'etre is to intimidate other big powerful cats. Consequently it would be both more experienced and more ferocious in such an encounter. The size difference is not really significant.

Of course, the tiger is much more dangerous to a humans.

Parmenio
10-02-2004, 13:19
Hey I have no idea, but this is cool:

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/29/

Forget Norway!