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MiniKiller
09-28-2004, 05:08
Most battles, but their Gauls and are very weak. After 15 years with each begining house here are my detials:

Year 255BC Summer
House-Family Members:Regions gained:Won/Lost:D($$$)
Scippi-6 : 2 : 6-1 : 2305d (Damn settlemnet I took from Carthage was bribed grrr)
Brutii-6 : 2 : 17-7 : 982d
Julii-9 : 5 : 25-0 : 9494d

Quietus
09-28-2004, 05:20
As Julii, Very Hard/Very Hard

246BC
9 conquered regions (11 total) Tech Level 4
100,000+ denari

Just don't make the mistake of attacking Carthage because the senate told you so. I'm now fighting in North Africa and the Gauls. Keep to the North.

Carthage has some powerful cavalry. Libyan Spearmen are tough too. My strongest Troops are the Principes and they ar overmatched. ~:eek: I can't wait to get a Triaari in a couple of years!!!

Murmandamus
09-28-2004, 05:31
I've only played as Julii so far but from what I see, they do seem to have it the easiest. While Julii has an easy time going north, west and north east, the other factions have to contend with Greeks, Macedonians and Egyptians. They also have to produce a navy to get anywhere as well making it even more difficult.

I wish I had taken some of the key port towns like Carthage in my Julii campain though. I recognised that it would be to my advantage but was too slow to act before the other roman factions got them. Seems like it would be best in the long run to surround the other roman factions to try containing them before expanding outwards.

Stuie
09-28-2004, 12:56
I wish I had taken some of the key port towns like Carthage in my Julii campain though. I recognised that it would be to my advantage but was too slow to act before the other roman factions got them. Seems like it would be best in the long run to surround the other roman factions to try containing them before expanding outwards.

I ended up grabbing Carthage after the Senate asked me to blockade Palma, thus initiating a war with Carthage. The Scipii were already in North Africa, but a recent revolt had pushed them out of Carthage. Being the opportunist, I rushed an army to Carthage and laid seige before the Scipii could. Then there army showed up and helped me take the city. Wasn't that nice of them?

I must say the Carthaginians are pretty disappointing. They landed a large army in my territory in North Italy, and I thought "cool! Bring it on!!". Then I attacked only to find some town watch units mixed with peasants. It was hardly worth wasting my pila on them.

I've been playing medium/medium, and have found it pretty easy going with the Julii. Most of my losses have either been sea battles or a "valuable learning experience" with the new strategy map.

Blodrast
09-28-2004, 17:52
Quietus, how did you make so much money in such a short time ?

MiniKiller
09-29-2004, 03:13
Senate missions maybe?

andrewt
09-29-2004, 04:19
They only give 5,000 for hard missions and 1,000 for easy missions, among other rewards. Conquering a city is 5,000 while blockading is 1,000. Stuff like making a protectorate is also 5,000 but I don't think you can do that that early unless you really rush. If he got a lot of diplomatic missions, then he's lucky.

Quietus
09-29-2004, 14:13
Hahahah. Much easier than those, fellows.
1. Press Escape.
2. Click Game Options.
3. Check "manage all settlements". ~;)

I still build non-stop, I just build them in the correct order.

The senate reward me with Roman Games held in my name, a free unit, or 1000 denari. I get scolded alot by the senate and I lose a lot of ship battles (AI builds a ton of ships and they roam and attack my ships. I already lost a family member being transported to n. africa.

It is now summer, 236BC and I have 234,000+ denari. ~:cool: That money is great for when a civil war suddenly breaks out. :sweatdrop:

~:)

Dorkus
09-29-2004, 14:17
They only give 5,000 for hard missions and 1,000 for easy missions, among other rewards. Conquering a city is 5,000 while blockading is 1,000. Stuff like making a protectorate is also 5,000 but I don't think you can do that that early unless you really rush. If he got a lot of diplomatic missions, then he's lucky.

I've gotten 10k before. Huge rebellion in Corinth (which I purposefully allowed, to reactviate the temple of zeus 20% order bonus) of around 500 men (and a lot of macedonian cavalry) in a normal-unit size game. No general of course, so I crushed them and the senate granted me 10k.

10k and 20% boost to all provinces. Not a bad round. :)

Dorkus
09-29-2004, 14:21
btw, seems to me brutii are the strongest and easiest to start with.

Initial provinces do not touch any enemy, so you can more or less abandon them and send your entire army out to conquest carthage, syracuse, or another high pop/high growth province. Temple of mars is also a really awesome bonus.

I took carthage, syracuse, most of north africa, the entire greek peninsula, and Ionia/Scythia/Rhodes (for the wonders) by 265.

Doug-Thompson
09-29-2004, 14:45
Just don't make the mistake of attacking Carthage because the senate told you so. I'm now fighting in North Africa and the Gauls. Keep to the North.

Obey the Senate, but destroy the city after you've captured it. Be sure to delete the buildings, too. Then immediately sail you army back to the real war you want to fight. The Senate's happy. You're happy -- and rich, which really helps in thge opening moves. Whoever takes the possession of the city inherits a desert.

I also find the Brutii to be the best faction. Sure, the Julii have easy conquests, but then what do they win? Barbarian provinces, that's what. Winning a war in Greece gives you cities, trade and population.

I don't know what Scipii are supposed to do. I blitzed the Carthaginians but now I'm a long way from anywhere. It takes three turns just to sail an army from North Africa to Egypt. The only half-way decent options would appear to be to compete in Greece with the Brutii or take over some relatively undeveloped provinces in Spain.

crazyviking03
09-29-2004, 15:17
I have done rather well as Scipii. I took all of Sicily, Carthage, and the city below it. I am now sitting on my trade routes (have trade with 5 or 6 peoples), all third level docks. I am the richest faction in the world (just anounced two turns ago). My fleet seems to be the strongest as well. I finaly have triarii, and I am doing really well just biding my time. Switched capital to Carthage to get it out of Italy. Seems good to just bide my time, as other families are overextending themselves and having money problems.

Scipio
09-29-2004, 17:29
Seems to me like none of the Roman factions are easy tho, I made the mistake of starting to fight in North Africa as well and had all my armies spread widely around the map, of coarse this is the time the senate demand me to kill my leader or become an enemy to Rome :no:

andrewt
09-29-2004, 17:36
I found Carthage to be a very powerful city. The key is to massacre the inhabitants the moment you get it. I think I even made it my capital for 1 turn while I built a shrine for Jupiter. I also grabbed Caralis (in Sardinia) both because the Senate told me to. Carthage is mostly built up and is easy to tech to get good units. It also gives a lot of income, especially trade.

I love the temple of Ceres for Julii. I'm not sure if my 2 initial cities would be able to reach huge city without it. I had it upgraded to level 2-3, I think in both of those cities while having a priest of Ceres in my retinue which adds another 0.5% growth. Of course, after I got huge cities, I destroyed them and switched to Jupiter for better law and order and arcani.

Scipio
09-29-2004, 18:31
I know this is veering a bit off topic but is there anyway to mod the chance of revolt? I am tired of massacring settlements to keep them off my heals but even then they are such arses

Quietus
09-30-2004, 01:10
I found out taking Carthage does have its perks. It is harder, than just staying in the european mainland, but it also is more lucrative.

So, I believe it really depends on what the player wants. Fighting on multiple fronts is tough but fun. :dizzy2: Fighting in the mainland is easier but potentially not as fun ~:)