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I for a starter Spartan Hopliites.
Krosword
10-04-2004, 01:01
Arcani - coolest looking in game, imho, and also a deadly one.
Morindin
10-04-2004, 01:03
Urban Cohort. They look absolutely awesome, and I cant help but feel sorry for whoever they're marching towards.
Colovion
10-04-2004, 01:05
g unit
The Sword of Cao Cao
10-04-2004, 01:18
LOL! ^
Probably Headhurlers, or Spartan's, or Cataphracts, or Night Raiders, or Berserkers or..maybe... meh you get the point. :D
Mr. Juice
10-04-2004, 01:22
Bastarnae Mercenaries. I wasn't expecting much out of them when I hired them. I just needed some fodder for a siege. They were the first to go throught the breach in wall A where most of the enemy was, and Then I focused on getting my legionaries through the breach in Wall B. When that was done, the Mercs were still happily fighting away! One unit of them finally broke when the fight was at the city square, but I don't blame them as they had 8 or 9 men left. Then I noticed after the battle they have 2 HP, fast movement, great attack, and the same size as an average unit of legionaries.
Now I snatch them up whenever I can. In my armies that have them, my legionaries tie up the battle line, the Bastarnae Mercenaries hit the flanks, while the cavalry is snuck around and hits the rear of the flanks or runs down archers. Talk about chain routing...
Urban cohort using the Julii is already serious ownage. Even when exhausted, they could beat fresh post-Marian legionaire cohorts. They're even stronger using Temple of Mars or Vulcan as the Scipii or Brutii. Their pila is also really strong. Sometimes, enemies rout even before I charge. The only time I've had one rout was when they were reduced to less than 10 units and they stopped routing only a short time afterwards.
Basileus
10-04-2004, 01:47
Numudian Cav and Pontic Ligth Cav, preety similar and perfect for my battle tactics.
Urban Cohorts are to powerfull and should not be available so early in game :p
Krosword
10-04-2004, 02:43
I gave a shot to praetorian cohort that I had with one of my armies on a siege in Egypt... Put them into tower and when they were on thsoe Epic walls... Well, they cleaned up like 4 units of whatever there was upthere, and lost may be 40 guys.. Sh*t! And O looked later on casulties inflicted it was above 600... OMG. If urban cohorts are stronger (didn't try them yet) than I don't want to play against Julii! :O
Morindin
10-04-2004, 02:48
Numudian Cav and Pontic Ligth Cav, preety similar and perfect for my battle tactics.
Urban Cohorts are to powerfull and should not be available so early in game :p
re Urban Cohorts Im up to ~200BC hard/hard with the marius reforms, and 32 provinces involved in the civil war, and I cant build them yet. :)
Multiplayer however is a different story.
You need huge city and urban barracks. They are barely more powerful than Praetorian cohorts in defense but have quite a good advantage in offense. They're expensive to both hire and maintain, though and need 2 turns.
I also had a lot of fun with repeating ballistas. I just kept shooting entrenched enemies. They only have the same range as post-Marian archers but they recover all troops almost all the time.
Armchair Athlete
10-04-2004, 02:56
Favourite units would probably have to be either Macedonian Light lancers or Armoured Hoplites. Both can be had quite early and give a serious advantage to their respective factios.
Morindin
10-04-2004, 03:01
You need huge city and urban barracks. They are barely more powerful than Praetorian cohorts in defense but have quite a good advantage in offense. They're expensive to both hire and maintain, though and need 2 turns.
I also had a lot of fun with repeating ballistas. I just kept shooting entrenched enemies. They only have the same range as post-Marian archers but they recover all troops almost all the time.
Ah well im one turn away from an urban barracks in Pavatium. I can build Praetorian's, they take 2 turns also.
Ive been bringing along siege with my armies these days as well, absolutely devistating against hoplite formations.
ICantSpellDawg
10-04-2004, 03:35
i like the first legionary cohort best
i bought this game for roman legions and that is a true century
hotingzilla
10-04-2004, 09:37
Urban Cohort. Best unit.
It beats Spartan Hoplites!
I'm only early in a Julii campaign, so I have not seen the better units yet.
I am inclined to say the wardogs, as they are rather funny to watch and incredibly powerful against Gauls plus they regenerate. But their power, regeneration and indeed existence seems ahistorical and takes some of the fun out of it.
Other than that, the one unit of Roman archers I started with has earned its weight in gold. They are amazing against the (admittedly unarmoured) Gauls - they seem even better than Samaurai archers in STW. To be honest, they seem too strong - it is as if they were good shots armed with rifles (not muskets, rifles). However, this is somewhat balanced by the ridiculous charge speeds and the appalling rate of friendly fire.
Of the AI units, the Dacian falxmen earned my respect - cleaved through a unit of hastati until my wardogs hit them - and the AI General's bodyguard cavalry are very much like the royal knights of MTW (one of the few dangerous Gaul units under the AI).
I like the scythian amazon head hunters and horse archers
~:cheers:
Sir Moody
10-04-2004, 11:31
Other than that, the one unit of Roman archers I started with has earned its weight in gold. They are amazing against the (admittedly unarmoured) Gauls - they seem even better than Samaurai archers in STW. To be honest, they seem too strong - it is as if they were good shots armed with rifles (not muskets, rifles). However, this is somewhat balanced by the ridiculous charge speeds and the appalling rate of friendly fire.
agreed u should see what a group of archer behind a screen of Roman Legions can do (as for the main participant (the legion) doesnt matter if its only Hastati the archers soften anything they face)
in one battle using combined arms 4 units of archers screened by just by Hastati facing a Greek army of simmiliar size (majority Armoured Hoplite) the archers killed over 600 and the only fighting the Hastati had to do was to repell one charge of the enemies General... (who after routing got an arrow in the back ~D ) was joy to watch a Hoplite slowly march up to my units and get hit by a rain of arrows and then Pila only the cav could get thru fast enough
so for my fav unit id say - anything which when combined with others makes my life easier as a general ~;)
I like the dogs. Just when the opposing forces are about to get too close to your skirmishing archers and your front line troops, unleash the dogs of war.
Ties up the enemy for a bit, disorganizes him, gives you time for a few more flight of arrows followed by a Cohort charge right up their nose while the enemy stiff has the dogs chewing on their ass. ~D Great fun.
Leet Eriksson
10-04-2004, 13:32
Urban Cohorts, Brutii and Temple of Mars and you got killing machines.
Also the name itself has a cool sound to it ~;p
crazyviking03
10-04-2004, 15:11
I like two units of Cretan Archers and two units of Rhodian slingers. My main phalanxe lines havent had to come into contact with the enemy yet ~:)
SpencerH
10-04-2004, 16:17
Wardogs are great, but I have to give the nod to scythed chariots.
Orda Khan
10-04-2004, 16:27
Scythian Noble Horse Archers
....Orda
Aymar de Bois Mauri
10-04-2004, 17:44
Arcani - coolest looking in game, imho, and also a deadly one.
Too bad they never existed. :rolleyes:
Aymar de Bois Mauri
10-04-2004, 17:50
Wardogs are great, but I have to give the nod to scythed chariots.
Too bad they weren't used at that time anymore...
ChaosLord
10-04-2004, 18:27
I love the Wardogs so far, i've found they're a good counter to enemy cavalry. Just loose them apon the cav to tie them up, then hit them with Infantry. They all so work great in assaulting places since they don't seem to get caught up on other units. While attacking a fairly large force guarding a gate I had a unit of merc Hoplites at the front, Halasti(or however its spelled) chucking Javelins from just behind them, then I loosed my Wardogs into the mixed. I guess with a face full of spears, javelins hurtling through the air, and Wardogs biting their ankles the enemy went nuts. Because units started routing like crazy. One of my Wardog units got 120+ kills that battle.
Since then i've brought Wardogs around with my main army, i'll use them to tie up enemies or just to chase down routing ones. I took my faction leader around with just him and 4 units of Wardogs to chase around small Carthaginian armies. Even managed a few heroic victories. But yeah, so far Wardogs are my favorite. I've only been fighting in North Africa/Sicily though.
DisruptorX
10-04-2004, 18:43
Cataphract Archers
Most powerful unit in the game. All purpose too, as they pack a punch on the charge.
Warmaker
10-05-2004, 22:43
I don't care much for fancy units in my Legions.
My favorite are the rank and file troops that got the job done in my armies: Hastati for Pre-Marian era and Legionary Cohorts for Post-Marian.
Too bad they weren't used at that time anymore...
Oh yes they were. The Seleucids dabbled with scythed chariots for a time. They weren't all that great but they were used a number of times until the leaders finally realized that cavalry was better.
Aymar de Bois Mauri
10-06-2004, 01:28
Oh yes they were. The Seleucids dabbled with scythed chariots for a time. They weren't all that great but they were used a number of times until the leaders finally realized that cavalry was better.
Then they were the only ones and that didn't served them. Unlike RTW where every faction as one... :sad:
Elephants.
Munchin crunchin mashin fun.
Wardogs are fun too.
But most fun is straight out grinding enemies with Legions, since I haven't really been inclined to use such tactics in Shogun/Medieval :)
Britanic Light Chariots.
They're powerful, cheap, fast, and well balanced. They are fun to use because they aren't an overwhelming force, but if used correctly, can devestate enemy armies (I've gotten 1500 kills to 0 losses against armies that are twice the size of mine with armies composed of light chariots, combined with some cavalry to chase down routers).
Then they were the only ones and that didn't served them. Unlike RTW where every faction as one... :sad:
Well, yes they were the only ones to try out scythed chariots. I have heard stories of Ptolomaic chariots but so far I haven't found much.
Besides the Seleucids, there are the Egyptians and the Brits. But since I don't have the game I can't remember if the Brits' chariots have scythes. Besides those then there are the easter egg amazons which I would hardly count in as anything beyond a good joke.
Elephants. Nothing like seeing enemy troops tossed high in the air. LOL
(Just make sure you have a unit of Cav follow tight behind the Elephants to kill the disrupted enemy before they can recover.)
Aymar de Bois Mauri
10-06-2004, 16:45
Well, yes they were the only ones to try out scythed chariots. I have heard stories of Ptolomaic chariots but so far I haven't found much.
Besides the Seleucids, there are the Egyptians and the Brits. But since I don't have the game I can't remember if the Brits' chariots have scythes. Besides those then there are the easter egg amazons which I would hardly count in as anything beyond a good joke.
Good joke or bad one? :angry:
As for the Seleucids, that is understandable up to a point, since the the Persians, before Alexander, used them quite frequently. Not for the other factions, however.
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