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ShadesWolf
09-29-2002, 18:15
Im currently in the process of updating and moving to a new domain my 100 years war web site
Take a look and tell me what you think
http://www.100yearswar.co.uk/
Sjakihata
09-29-2002, 22:26
Very nice indeed it is...
keep up the good work..!
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ShadesWolf
10-19-2002, 22:07
Does nobody out there find the 100 years war interesting ?
I have almost finished "The Hundred Years War" by Desmond Seward. Excellent book. I think I finally understand why the French hate the English so much. Those chevauchees were ugly.
Also you have a very nice site!! I just added it to my Medieval Favorites sites.
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ShadesWolf
10-20-2002, 04:02
Do you have the ISBN number for that, I will give it a look.
Im currently looking at about 4/5 books on the subject
Arms, Armies and Fortifications in the 100 years war, is a very good book - ISBN 0851157556 - Anne Curry
The hundred years war - Robin Neillands - ISBN 0415261309 is also a good read.
Osprey do a number of books on the subject:
French armies of the 100 years war
Armies of Crecy and poitiers
Agincourt.
However, a must to read is Joan of Arc – A military leader by Kelly Devries (ISBN 0-7509-1805-5) - This is a very good book, I couldnt put it down
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And to the point about:
Quote I think I finally understand why the French hate the English so much. Those chevauchees were ugly. [/QUOTE]
It is quite interesting, the war was caused in part by the fact that a french faction invaded england in 1066, so initially they were the cause. If this had not happened the English Kings would not have had a claim on the French throne. Also dont forget finally the War turned into a French Cival war (Bugundy)
Another interesting point is Gascony was part of England for a long time with very little problems.... There is tons of info about the war which the French authorities wont release/ translate. This details everyday life etc..... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
HOWEVER, I find this whole campaign truely interesting
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Shadeswolf,
Here is the ISBN number for Desmond Stewards "Hundred Years War":0-689-10919-9.
I highly recommend it. A lot of detail and the author just as an enjoyable way of telling the story.
ShadeFlanders
10-22-2002, 14:55
Wolf, I could do the sum-up for the Roosebeecke battle if you want. After all it was the Flemish (and no englishmen) that were slaughtered there.
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BertrandDuGuesclin
10-22-2002, 15:50
I'm missing the battle of Cocherel were I was victorious http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif.
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Well ive just read the "Nameless Day" by sara douglass.. a great spin on the hundred years war, although it is only partly fact. gotta read the other two books in the series now
Check out THE AGE OF PLANTAGENET AND VALOIS - interesting overview and lots of data and nuts and bolts stuff, particularly if you want to mod it for MTW.
Gilbert de Clare
Ferocious Imbecile
10-25-2002, 12:11
Quote Originally posted by ShadesWolf:
Does nobody out there find the 100 years war interesting ?[/QUOTE]
I'm a big fan of the painting of the Limbourg Brothers and all the other artists patronized by Jean duc de Berry, the great Valois Maecenas. I also admire the Henry V produced during WWII by Lord Olivier which used many of the Limbourg's paintings in its design. I want to join the chorus of praise for your excellent site; I've just added it to My Favorites and will be visiting it often. Thank you.
ShadesWolf
10-25-2002, 17:36
talking about modding.......
Im currently working on a 100 years wars online campaign.......
http://pub73.ezboard.com/fonerorderofomissionsfrm6
tell me what u think ?
The Knight 2100
10-27-2002, 18:51
Jaggar, I'm working on that book too, I'm almost done with the part where he talks about Richard II.
I find the Hundred Years War quit interesting, it had collosal battlles, almost like something out of fiction, and leaders who were again almost out of fiction.
I think the Hundred Years War started more as a personal vendetta between Edward III, and Philip VI.
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ShadesWolf
10-27-2002, 20:11
Jagger
Is this a hard back or a paper back ?
Richard the Slayer
10-28-2002, 09:30
I'm a big "fan" of the Hundred Years War, if thats possible. Unfortunately most of the sources are from English eyes, I havnt found that many sources on translated French views in battles - this would lend a whole new perspective to the war. Afterall the French managed to win some decisive victories against the English and these tend to be overlooed because of the infamous longbowman victories. MTW let me down in the HYW arena but possibly the expansion will include actual campaign map of france and england. You never know!
Richard the Slayer
10-28-2002, 09:33
P.S. the osprey campaign series has the best overall presentation of famous battles from any period - they have titles on agincourt (have that one, very good), crecy, and poitiers. check out the osprey campaign series books if you havnt already.
ShadesWolf
10-28-2002, 18:39
I have these book slayer and they are excellent...
The fRench armies of the 100 years war is a good one.
BTW they have a new one coming out, written by Anne Curry about the 100 years war. (I think its anne curry)
ShadesWolf
11-01-2002, 03:17
I have found an excellent time line site on the 100 years war
http://www.maisonstclaire.org/timeline/timeline.html
You can tell the creator has spent a lot of time researching this
FANTASTIC SITE !!
Thx for putting all that up ! Great Work !
ShadesWolf
11-05-2002, 18:24
Notes in a thread from Hakonarson
( so we dont loose the info)
Contrary to popular belief the French were not complete idiots!
Longbowmen obviously remained an important and powerful part of English armies until the 1500's, and yet the French might've well expected to overwhelm them at Agincourt in 1415 when the MAA fought on foot - for they had done so several times before.
Nogent sur Seine - Froissart describes how heavily armoured infantry with large shields (pavises) "broke through the line of archers and flung them in disorder; for their shields were so strong the arrows made no impression on them".
Cocherel - 1346 where "the archers "shot fiercly togheher, but the Frenchmen were so well armed (ie armoured) and pavised (ie shielded) that they took but little hurt.....and so entered in among the English and Navaresse".
And at Auray (1364) again "the English archers shot well, but their arrows hurt not, as the French were well armed and shielded from them"
Also the French retained smaller bodies of mounted men-at-arms to ride down archers, especially towards the flanks. The stakes adopted by the English (as at Agincourt) were in response such bodies, and they were sometimes successful, such as at Vernueil in 1424.
There was also horse armour - at Poitiers the mounted German portion of the French army was had armoured horses, and the Earl of Oxford, observing the ineffectiveness of fire at their front led his archers to the flank where they could shoot at the unarmoured hind-quarters.
The French also tried more sophisitcated tactics, such as telling off troops to march around the English and attack their rear, or attack their horses - both infantry and cavalry were used for this.
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