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My family tree is more like a family bush, hardly any new members in years. Has anyone else got this problem?
Medieval Assassin
10-10-2004, 02:56
Change the faction heir to someone younger, so I heard that increases heirs...
Have a good 16-20 year old be next in line, in oppose to a 30+ year old, so I heard...
I agree with the above. Another idea is if you feel confident in your battle abilities just let a captian command your forces. After a couple good victories you will most likely get an option to addopt him :charge:
Marius Maxentius
10-10-2004, 05:21
I agree with the above. Another idea is if you feel confident in your battle abilities just let a captian command your forces. After a couple good victories you will most likely get an option to addopt him :charge:
Expanding on that, break that main force into three or four different elements and move them in a group/formation during your campaign in strategic mode. After several grouped battles, you'll receive the option to adopt those captains as new family members.
I agree with all the above, but would like to add the following.
During the civil war, i had 11 family members sitting at my capitol doing nothing. So i made an army out of them and managed to rout a lot of troops before my infantry caught up. So that's what you do if you have lots to spare...
ChaosDrake
10-10-2004, 12:04
another option is to bribe enemy generals, look for a general without army its cheapier then.
Despot of the English
10-10-2004, 12:27
After several grouped battles, you'll receive the option to adopt those captains as new family members.
I didn't know that. I am running very low on governors now.
Thank you guys I will try this younger heir idea. As for the adopt a captain, most of my armies are led by captains. In fact one captain just took Byzantium and all my family members are in towns as governors except for one and he is family only because he was a suitable husband. So far I have not needed a high ranking general to defeat enemy armies, I guess my captains must feel pretty let down after all their efforts
Amon_Zeth
10-11-2004, 02:49
I gained several victories with a captain, but he didn't promote. How many victories does he need to get adopted, and do they have to be of any particular quality? (i.e. Heroic, clear, etc.)
I think it may have to do with the victory quality. I have no evidence to back this up though.
Colovion
10-11-2004, 05:28
I had a lot of Family members dying and loads of cities without Governers and armies without Generals. Now for some reason after that little down period I have more than what I know what to do with them! Eventually this 'crop' will die but I think I'll be done this campaign by then.
oblivious maximus
10-11-2004, 05:38
they may be picky on chosing captains. I sent a captain around for years victory after victory, even one heroic one. Never was asked to join.
Despot of the English
10-11-2004, 11:26
I changed my 45-year-old faction heir to someone 15 years younger and that really helped (he had a son almost straightaway and later became a governor). Also it's good when one of your female members of the family gain a husband to join the house. I guess with a bit of luck you can have many husbands joining your House over a short period of time.
My family tree is more like a family bush, hardly any new members in years. Has anyone else got this problem?
I haven't got that problem, but I've got a related one - my family keep having daughters. It's infuriating. The bottom (or top?) of the tree is full of teenage girls, most of whom look identical.
I'm just hoping that when I get all these girls married off they will have lots of big, strong baby boys.
Despot of the English
10-11-2004, 12:22
Surely those teenage girls will get married and you'll be able to accept new Roman nobles (their husbands) into the fold so that you won't have to wait for any offspring to mature?
Things have not improved for me. My family has quite a few girls who are very young.
I do not know if victory type applies, otherwise most of my captains would now have their feet under the family dinner table ~;)
.......' victories like this go only to the best '
If a captain defeats the enemy so decisively ( enemy faction heir and 2 other generals killed in one battle ) and still is overlooked, does this put him at risk of bribery etc?
All this is a shame just when I am making money and slaughtering foes I have but 3 governors and so my people begin to riot. Is there a way I can tell my garrisons to slaughter a few townsfolk to curb their rebellious nature? I do not really want to resort to this as my people are the chosen ones afterall
Awww...@#!*
10-12-2004, 03:15
Man, I wish I had your problems. I have FAR too many family mambers. My family tree is more likely a family orchard. Is there a way to disown family members? ~:confused:
on topic-ly, I suggest you save before the coming of age of a male family member, and if he doesn't get the trait "Fertile" you can always reload...
Despot of the English
10-12-2004, 09:46
You can never have enough family members!
I've been really lucky recently because two sons matured into fine upstanding Romans and two daughters got married and I accepted two more Roman nobles into the house. I now have surplus family members ~D .
Excalibur Bane
10-12-2004, 10:01
I got too many of the retarded fools. Their all drunks, gamblers, child molestors or incompetent. I was under the impression that allowing governors to sit in a city with a decent learning center would produce some decent leaders, at least in managment. I've got upwards of 15 family members, and not one of them has above 2 management.
How exactly does one actively get Management? Influence? I don't see a way.
I can just see all my governors sitting in the academy, with a dozen prostitutes, six bottles of roman wine getting absolutely pasted. Yes, sir. The fun just never ends. It's a pity you can't turn the blade of your assassin inwards. I'd assassinate my entire family. :evil:
King Edward
10-12-2004, 11:43
Keep Your governors in the field if they are fighting batlles they get good V&Vs. I always send my govs on trips to slay the enemies of the Julii and very rarly have one gov in the same town for to long. Keep em moving thats what i say.
Despot of the English
10-12-2004, 12:06
I'm happy to keep my family members governing in the towns and cities because I want to at least have the option to build whatever constructions I want as well as recruiting whatever soldiers I need. Without a governor in the settlement it's not so easy.
R'as al Ghul
10-12-2004, 14:13
I'm happy to keep my family members governing in the towns and cities because I want to at least have the option to build whatever constructions I want as well as recruiting whatever soldiers I need. Without a governor in the settlement it's not so easy.
If you toggle "manage all cities" in the options menu before you start a campaign, you'll be able to manage all taxes, building and recruiting queues without a governor.
~:cheers:
R'as
Despot of the English
10-12-2004, 16:06
But I am a control freak! ~D I don't want the pesky AI building and recruiting behind my back!
Can you guess what just happened?
That's right 2 adoption choices. 2 captains finally acknowledged for their battlefield skills.
Anyway I have now begun trading with Brutii and look forward to crushing them after first making money out of them. They seem too interested in taking Greek land, I don't know why, I learned from my battles with Macedon that Greek nations field armies of weak and feeble pikemen
Despot of the English
10-12-2004, 16:15
Good one mate ~:cheers: . All the more reason for me now to really try to get some captains promoted and brought into the house.
Awww...@#!*
10-12-2004, 20:04
I have pretty much decided the adopt-a-captain feature is random, since I won with an army of 3 peasant unit cards against an army of Egyptians full to the top of the banner. No adoption option. Hey! A rhyme! ~:cool:
Medieval Assassin
10-12-2004, 20:26
I find that rather hard to believe...
Awww...@#!*
10-12-2004, 20:36
Bah, so it was on easy setting. Lay off! I can't play the hard stuff...
Medieval Assassin
10-12-2004, 22:49
Still, very hard to believe... :-D
Emperor of Nowhere
10-12-2004, 23:14
I think you can only adopt someone into the family if you have a princess that you can marry them too, at least that's what I've noticed from my experience playing.
Hah!!! Perhaps the trick is to moan about it, they come thick and fast now. As for Brutii and Greeks.......
Just as I begin a little trade with Brutii the silly Greeks get me involved in a war with them. Then the Brutii ignore Greeks and decide to attack me. They bring a huge army nearly 1900 men and outnumber me 2 to 1, the Greeks are noticeable in their absence from this battle.....Cowards!!
Roman pigs, it seems they underestimate as they have no answer to Scythian arrows. Utter carnage as we kill 1864 stinking Romans and lose but 20 of our brave men.
Brutii have suffered such in next few battles and immediately call upon their Roman brethren for help
Despot of the English
10-13-2004, 10:02
Either my House has got some extremely good-looking women or their husbands are blind ~D . I'm adopting so many new Roman nobles that I don't know what to do with them now ~:cheers: .
Kekkonen
10-13-2004, 10:17
I haven't got that problem, but I've got a related one - my family keep having daughters. It's infuriating.
Is that so bad? It is my understanding that when they bring a boyfriend home, you can check him out and send him on his way if he's no good; your daughters will pout for a while and then go on looking for new boyfriends.
I've only just barely started the introductory campaign, but at least the 3 Julii sons of the magnificent Gaius (the guy you start with) are hopeless twats. The first one is sickly and a poor trader, the second one judgmental and the youngest a lazy pervert.
You can also use diplomats to bribe armies containing another faction's family members. If successful, that enemy family member will join your family.
USMCNJ suggested in another thread taking this even further by parking a diplomat right outside each other faction's capital city to bribe the family members as they come out. Wish I had thought of that earlier.
Kekkonen
10-13-2004, 11:42
USMCNJ suggested in another thread taking this even further by parking a diplomat right outside each other faction's capital city to bribe the family members as they come out. Wish I had thought of that earlier.
~:cool: That's evil genius at work.
Kekkonen
10-13-2004, 18:58
I've only just barely started the introductory campaign, but at least the 3 Julii sons of the magnificent Gaius (the guy you start with) are hopeless twats. The first one is sickly and a poor trader, the second one judgmental and the youngest a lazy pervert.
I went bankrupt and started over. It seems like now Gaius got better sons, but they're all gay. They're soon hitting 30, and they're still single.
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