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Plucesiar
10-10-2004, 06:57
Do you guys ever select your entire army and tell it to move to a certain place, just to find that the entire formation is screwed up after checking with your [SPACE] bar? Is it bad programming or am I the one not knowing how to use it? I've noticed that if my units even overlap a little I get those sorta problems, and also if I select two groups of units and tell them to move to a place.

Ptah
10-10-2004, 07:29
When multiple units are grouped, the initial places and positions those troops are "locked" and the troops show a strong tendency to maintain that initial position. For instance, when you have one cavalry unit fighting at the left end, and another at the right end, if you group them first and then order a move, the two cavalry units will not come together at the point you clicked, but they would be far away from each other like in the initial state they were grouped in.

Thus, you must make a habit of Rclick+dragging to issue new orders, and then group them.

sapi
10-10-2004, 08:22
Groups also sometimes don't respond to orders. To fix these problems, ungroup [G], issue orders and then regroup. Annoying but it works for me.

The Hun
10-10-2004, 13:29
It is just another flaw that CA introduced

Hambut_bulge
10-10-2004, 13:49
The only time I use groups now is for moving the whole formation around. Once the actual fighting starts, I dismiss the group, as the unit AI seems to be more weighted towards keeping formation than actually responding to orders.

Even worse, I had one time a group of infantry, and a group of cavalry. I ordered the infantry to attack a group of enemy infantry head on, and ordered the cavalry round the back, so I could take 'em in the rear. Instead my infantry group started to move round the back and the cavalry went for the head on charge. ~:confused: No matter how many times I re-issued orders! It was like the two groups would only obey the other's orders. Gave up on groups after that

foop
10-11-2004, 11:15
Thus, you must make a habit of Rclick+dragging to issue new orders, and then group them.

I've got into that habit, but sometimes even that doesn't help.

Yesterday I had a group of two units of auxiliary archers but every time I R-clicked to rubber-band a new formation it included the outlines of two extra mysterious units. I had no idea which units they were, although from the number of men they were probably infantry. Even ungrouping and grouping again didn't solve the problem. I had to ungroup everyone and issue orders on a per-unit basis. Argh. And it wasn't an isolated bug.