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son of spam
10-17-2004, 23:59
Diplo Exploit?

I declare war on Egypt, and sink their ships. Then I ceasefire with them on the same turn.

I do this for the next 10 turns, and soon they have no navy left. They never break the ceasefire themselves.

It would be great if there was some sort of reputation thing a la Civ. As it is, this looks like an exploit to me, as you only have to fight battles that are favorable, and can ceasefire to avoid hard battles.

Opinions?

Servius
10-18-2004, 00:01
If the AI knew you were utterly more powerful than Egypt, it might opt to always agree to a ceasefire in the hopes you would actually keep your word. I wonder what the relative balance of overall military power was between you and Egypt at the time this was going on. If you were equals or if Egypt was stronger, my theory wouldn't work. If you were more powerful it might be the cause.

Oaty
10-18-2004, 17:24
And just to think you could have Egypt paying you tribute for a ceasefire. But I play nice I never break a ceasefire while recieving a tribute even thought you can still recieve one if you got to war.

Would make sense to me that any tribute being recieved would get cancelled as soon as war breaks out but then again the human could play dirty, offer a tribute for a city or something good then attack the poor A.I. to cancel thetribute

son of spam
10-18-2004, 20:56
I was more powerful, but Egypt was right behind me (well militarily, maybe not financially). Maybe that's it tho, Egypt just wanted to maintain blance of power or something?

Slaists
10-18-2004, 21:07
well, if playing as julii, i harass greeks and carthagians for cash all the time. the senate would always come up with ideas to blockade one or the other greek/carthagian port. i'd have diplomats near-by the respective cities and as soon as the senate sends its gratitude, the diplomats would "cash in" from the victim, selling a nice "ceasefire-trade rights-map information" package for anywhere from $3000 to $10000 dinari... it seems, the AI is programmed to prefer to fight its primary enemy rather than all the roman factions at the same time. it is really easy to obtain a ceasefire with carthage and greece if you are julii, whereas it was impossible with the gauls (who consider julii to be their primary enemy).

note, that this "cashing-in" went on for quite some time until the victims figured out they were out of cash and "had nothing to offer in return for your offer".

andrewt
10-18-2004, 22:30
In my game, I (Parthia) am the most powerful nation in the game. The Greeks have been reduced to a few cities (maybe even only one). They offered me ceasefire if I pay them more than 100,000 denarii. Yeah, right.

Slaists
10-18-2004, 22:53
Well, it didn't hurt them to try. Those 100,000 dinari would have gone a long way to restore their armies :)