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Siris
11-19-2004, 01:25
Just wondering fella's, what happened to the captured enemies, as it was in Medieval Total War? I always enjoyed hitting the "kill them all" button, massacaring the captured enemies, and always enjoyed hitting the, "relase them", or "kill the ring leaders, generals", and the "kill them all" buttons. Primarily the "kill them all" button.

Is it in RTW? I thought in the demo after that Carthage fight, that I saw a captured enemies thing, but never saw the option to slay them, etc. Is it in RTW!

:surrender:

Thon
11-19-2004, 02:26
it would have been nice to get a ransom/enslave/kill option after a battle for captured troops

NicSO
11-19-2004, 02:27
Nope.....and I ask myself: Why would they remove good things from the paast games??????

Servius
11-19-2004, 03:00
To a minor extent it is in the game, though only during city battles. When you win, you can Occupy, Enslave, or Exterminate. You can think of that as releaes them all, kill the ring leaders, and kill them all.

Occupying is kinda like ransoming the prisoners. Enslaving is kinda like killing the ring-leaders as an inbeteeen option for unrest and money. Exterminate is best because you get rid of unhappiness problems (which allow you to move on relatively quickly to your next conquest) AND money to fund your war machine.

KyodaiSteeleye
11-19-2004, 14:29
Siris, you're a sick, sick man. ~:eek:

Well, i think its true that there was less of a ransom culture in the ancient period - also MTW was a bit silly, as you would have only bothered ransoming knights and nobles in real life - footsoldiers/commoners would just have been killed (also depended on the period - in late medieval as wars got more attritious, they didn't even bother ransoming nobles - they often just killed them.)

I think in RTW it would have been cool to be able to use captured family members as bargaining tools in diplomacy though.

Siris
11-19-2004, 14:49
Well to speak the truth, I always killed them all, every time, no exceptions. I thought it was funny! Why ransom back for a couple bucks, an army that you'll just be fighting another day?! Basically your selling your mens lives that you've paid for (in the unit creation that is) for a small amount of cash that the AI can provide. Kill em, kill em all!

Alexandr III. Biges
11-19-2004, 16:24
Nope.....and I ask myself: Why would they remove good things from the paast games??????

For the possibility of patch datadisk... you know, you have to fill the company's coffers the whole year :)

BDC
11-19-2004, 18:01
Well to speak the truth, I always killed them all, every time, no exceptions. I thought it was funny! Why ransom back for a couple bucks, an army that you'll just be fighting another day?! Basically your selling your mens lives that you've paid for (in the unit creation that is) for a small amount of cash that the AI can provide. Kill em, kill em all!
Henry VII wouldn't have been impressed.

You want to capture them, mercifully let them go, impose amazingly heavy fines on them, which not only means that they can never afford to attack again, but you also get nice and rich.

Siris
11-19-2004, 19:33
Well they always seemed to have no trouble just, mergeing the ransomed back units into larger stacks of armies, and then marching them upon my again, so its why I always killed them all.

Now in RTW, when I take a city, I typically enslave, for more population to my cities. But if its a hated city, such as an enemy Capital that I know I wont be able to hold long, I kill them all. Or when I took Rome itself, I killed them all, just because I could!

aw89
11-19-2004, 23:54
wasn't "units captured" in the demo? and if it was, why remove it?

Zelipus
11-20-2004, 23:19
Maybe because paying a ransom for captured soldiers was customary in the middle ages, but not in roman times. The roman policy was to kill every resistance by fear or genocide. There was no point in returning the prisoners so thet they can keep fighting.

I loved the sound of the "kill prisoners" button of M:TW though.

aw89
11-21-2004, 00:36
me too, fun break to hear the *screamofdeath,stabbingandotherhorriblestuff*

Maedhros
11-21-2004, 08:00
People in these times might not have been merciful enough to release prisoners. But they did sell them into slavery, which is an option I'd like.

Or at least in diplomacy, demand money or demand slaves which would add pop to your cities.

It was done from time to time. Especially to the Gauls who were often willing to sell the members of rival tribes to the romans for money and wine.

Zelipus
11-21-2004, 15:26
That is a good idea