Unit comparisons

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Anyone know where I can get a detailed unit comparison, which units work best against other units? I remember I was reading one on a site but lost the url.

-Thanks
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I'd still like to see a chinese TW, mongols dont count.

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Ignorance is the night of the mind, a night without a moon or the stars.

[Dark Phoenix]

Better hope that Magyr doesnt see your signature. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

[Magyar Khan]

i like chinese too , many many chinese....

[ShadowKill]

honour 5 yari can kick the crap out of honour 2 monks and honour 3 monks can kill 59 honour 2 monks with only 20 17 losses ok thats my info

[ShadowKill]

have any of you sat down on the custom battels and tryed diffrent units an honour to see how the fight goes

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Fear not the sword to your front, but the blade at your back.

Clan Shades
http://www.geocities.com/shadesofshogun/index.html

[BanzaiZAP]

Quick basic rundown, and is INCREDIBLY general. You will ALWAYS be able to overcome things with better tactics. But in general:

Missile units work best against slow infantry. They bring down the infantry before they can close to H2H.

Cavalry works best against missile units. They get in quick and chop them to ribbons.

Spearmen work best against cavalry. Even peasants with pointed sticks can keep the horses at bay.

Special H2H works best against spearmen. Monks and no-dachi will butcher other H2H units. Cavalry will give them a hard time, though, and missile units can shoot them to pieces while they're still charging.

Also, different stats make units compare differently, too. Yari samurai are tougher than ashigaru, but man, can those peasants run fast! Naginata are even tougher, but they can't run worth squat.

So you see, each unit has it's strengths, but there are always other units to take them down. A good army has a balance of all, unless you're really good with one type. Magyar Kahn and his disciples are trained in cavalry, but you'll still see them pack foot soldiers in the mix! I'm sure someone either has a complete unit list, or else we can make one up. Did you look in the FAQ in the Downloads section of this site?

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[Puzz3D]

Gamespot's shogun Strategy Guide is here http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/guides/pc/shogun/index.html

Use custom game as ShadowKill suggests to test unit matchups. Set the difficulty to normal, and get the Green map (flat).

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[Jackson]

This might be the link you're looking for.
http://home.soneraplaza.nl/qn/prive/k.ypma/units.html

[Tachikaze]

I have made controled tests of Warrior Monks vs. Naginatas (monks win), Naginatas vs. No-Dachis (to see if superior attack points can defeat superior defense - they can't), and Heavy Cavalry vs. Yari Cavalry.

The last test was the most interesting. I did five matchups, all were close. The Yaris actually won one of them. In all tests the HCs were devastated. In other words, a YC unit can neutralize a more-expensive HC unit under the conditions of the test (flat ground, both units charging face-to-face).

I'm most interested in trying Samurai Archers next. I want to try their H2H abilities vs. various units.

Remeber, all of this is of limited value, just interesting.