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Malbulga
12-01-2004, 03:36
I had an Interesting battle the other day... with a Macedonian army or two attacking me while I defended a Bridge. After his initial cavalry charges, which failed against my Mercenary hoplites phalanx (At least they have one use) the computer began to send his masses of infantry across the bridge. All seemed well for me at first, with his men breaking pretty much as soon as they met my principes on my side of the bridge... however his massive numbers began to worry me... until... his men seemed to be so tightly packed that they where crushing each other. I've had battles on bridges with no sides and seen men falling off, but this wasn't happening as the bridge had sides... also I was careful with any missile troops, as I've noticed that when set to attack targets on a bridge they default to just firing into the melee on the bridge. Anyway, I noticed the computers units begin to shrink in size, even though they weren't in combat. After a short time, they broke and fled... although I didn't have any cavalry to effectively pursue. After the smoke had cleared however, I think I discovered the cause of the computers dwindling units... masses of macedonian infantry lay dead along the entire length of the bridge... as if they'd been crushed in the masses of men. I did notice that the AI had some cavalry amongst the fight, but had never seen cavalry crush friendly troops. Also I have noticed enemy units (cavalry only) fleeing from bridge assaults into my units and crushing and killing them... even though they are fleeing. Any one else noticed this crush phenomena??

Grumfoss
12-01-2004, 17:03
I had a bridge battle With an army of Macedonians fighting my Juli army. I noticed that once the enemy started to break and run they all just turned round and died! Yup you heard it the whole remaining army just fell over as they ran. I didn't have any Archers or other missile units except for Hastati, but they had thrown all their Pila. ~:) Very handy, it must have been the Hastati's Garlic breath that killed the enemy ~D

This has only happened once.

Fridge
12-01-2004, 18:40
No idea - I've never seen a bridge with sides!

Does this only come with the highest grade of road improvement? And is that something only the romans can do? Had masses of bridge battles when I was playing the Britons, but not many nice roads...

Malbulga
12-01-2004, 20:05
I think it was only with Paved roads.... might have been Highways, but don't think so. I hadn't really noticed the difference between the wooden and stone bridges, and figured it to be purely aesthetic... but, on the wooden bridges I saw troops falling of the sides, the same as during battles on the walls during sieges/assaults.

b3rb0m4tiXX
12-02-2004, 01:29
I had a bridge battle With an army of Macedonians fighting my Juli army. I noticed that once the enemy started to break and run they all just turned round and died! Yup you heard it the whole remaining army just fell over as they ran. I didn't have any Archers or other missile units except for Hastati, but they had thrown all their Pila. ~:) Very handy, it must have been the Hastati's Garlic breath that killed the enemy ~D

This has only happened once.

Do you remember what the kill-count was? I think that that's one of the zones that the enemy can "escape" to whilst it routs off the map, because the same thing happened to me, and the kill counts did not reflect the fact that the entire enemy force tried to flash-mob my phalanxes and then drowned themselves in the river in exasperation.

flashbacck
12-02-2004, 02:53
I had an enemy army just "disappear" while fighting them on a bridge. I was holding one end with some hastati, but their numbers were slowly dwindling. I was afraid that if the hastati broke I'd be royally screwed, so I sent in two groups of wardogs and had them attack the enemy on the bridge. The wardogs ran in and were slowly pushing the enemy back. When all of a sudden, a huge group of enemy in the middle, just vanished. When I finished the battle over 1000 of the enemy was reported as killed (I forget if the wardogs got the credit). I'm assuming that the whole lot of them just fell of the bridge or something, because there's no way the wardogs killed that many.

LordKhaine
12-02-2004, 03:04
Maybe the bridge collapsed under the weight? After all, those hundreds of men in armour must weigh a fair bit. It's not like they constructed their bridges to take the weight of lorries and cars is it? ~;)

Lonewarrior
12-02-2004, 18:16
I have yet to see a bridge battle since no army goes inside my territory.

Grumfoss
12-03-2004, 14:14
Do you remember what the kill-count was? I think that that's one of the zones that the enemy can "escape" to whilst it routs off the map, because the same thing happened to me, and the kill counts did not reflect the fact that the entire enemy force tried to flash-mob my phalanxes and then drowned themselves in the river in exasperation.

I have had enemy units charge at my flank on bridges and dissapear underneath ( never to be seem again.) . But to have the army just turn and die was something new. They all died well before the map edge. Also the battle report showed the correct amount of enemy killed. Very confusing.

Daan
12-03-2004, 14:26
this remembers me of the historical battle with Seleucids vs. Egypt when you start (i watched the intromovie) two cavalery units just lay dead... all pointing there head the same way like they all just fell... ~:confused: