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econ21
01-14-2005, 12:01
For once the UK has had an American TV series broadcast before the US, so this is a heads-up for any sci-fi fans over the pond. I understand the US tonight (14th Jan) is premiering the remake of the old sci-fi series Battlestar Galactica. In the UK, we've seen around half a dozen episodes (and the older mini-series that starts it off) and I can recommend it. It's not Babylon 5 (which I adored), but it is still a fairy characterful and original attempt at a "Star Trek" style series.

The strengths are in the atmosphere and characters. The dark and interesting premise - 50,000 humans in a fleet fleeing a holocaust instigated by a robotic race (the Cylons) - is sustained reasonably well. In some ways, the show reminds me of those US crime shows like NYPD Blue or CSI - half the fun of it is watching interesting characters interact.

The lead, Edward James Olmos (sp?) does his "gravelly voiced authority figure of few words" thing as well as usual - it's not really different from his Miami Vice persona, but still watchable as ever.

Apparently a lot of viewers hate the new "Starbuck" character - Dirk Benedict has been replaced by a woman in the role, shock horror - but I think she's the best thing in the series. She's given an flashy, aggressive, cigar-chomping, trouble-making role that women actors seldom get but the actress pulls it off well.

The other stand out is the traitor in the fleet, Dr Baltaar. In the original, I remember him as a rather bland pitiful villain reminiscent of some in 1960s Star Trek, but in this reincarnation they have done a great job. Think a young Tony Blair mixed with Bill Clinton fallen to the Dark Side and you pretty much have it. I don't have much time for the super-model Cylon in his mind, but at least she has her moments (don't ask her to baby-sit).

Anyone who remembers the original series may also appreciate what they have done to the character Boomer. It's not giving away much to recall that some Cylons think they are human and that there are many copies. There's a great end sequence in one episode, where Boomer breaks down, crying, with a boyfriend and then a few seconds later starts to march off down the corridor - the power walk seen on the credits - it's a jaw-dropping transformation, more low-key but reminiscent of Kevin Spacey's exit in the Usual Suspects. I've really come to like the short sequences on Cylon-occupied Caprica, as a lone surviving pilot and a (!) Boomer try to escape. They are building up to something potentially very promising.

The stories are merely so-so and in terms of action, it promises more than it delivers - so unless you like the characters and setting, it may not do much for you. However, it does not have the "reset the story at the start of each episode" property of most sci-fi series and that makes it interesting to follow. I'd rate it as better than Voyager and Enterprise, but falling short of DS9 or Babylon 5.

Togakure
01-14-2005, 16:33
I missed the first showing last weekend ~:(. Hopefully I will be able to enjoy it even though I missed the first part.

I used to watch the old series as a kid. It was ok. A bit too ... casual for me. I like the more serious sci-fi presentations. Hasn't really been one I've liked much in a long time.

Kongamato
01-14-2005, 16:54
I like science fiction, but over here if it ain't a cop show, a home show, motorcycles or poker it's days are numbered.

econ21
01-14-2005, 19:24
I used to watch the old series as a kid. It was ok. A bit too ... casual for me.

Yeah, I could take or leave the original. It was rather a tacky Star Wars wannabee, IIRC. The remake is very different in style - if not exactly "adult", it's not aimed at young kids. There's a lot of emphasis on character and on "mind games", that make it interesting. Some of the themes are intriguing - for example, the humans are polytheistic in the style of the ancient Greeks whereas the Cylons appear to be pretty scarey evangelical monotheists who see divine purpose in their actions. There's a fair amount of implied sex and "swearing" with fictitious naughty words (it's catchy - I find myself cursing "Frack me!" all the time now). Sometime it verges on the gratuitous - at least the bits with the ex-supermodel playing the Cylon woman - but the actors pull it off. The cumulative effect is that the show appears anything but casual. The gavitas is probably ultimately rather empty, but it's a fun ride.

The_Doctor
01-15-2005, 01:05
I think its a great series. Its different somehow to other sci-fi series. The characters are not morally and ethically perfect (like in Star Trek and B5) and on some "We are good guys off on some mission to save the galaxy, explore, overthrow evil governments and generally be nice to everyone". Instead in BSG their just trying to survive and do some distasteful things(eg torture, lies, intimidation, murder) in order to do that. I like that, its more realistic. If humans where put in a Voyage type situation I doubt that they would be so well behaved and nice.

I have never seen the original series. I did see the movie (It was Sky One a while ago), which was odd.

KafirChobee
01-25-2005, 10:50
Simon, being a major sci-fi buff (from age 5 - Sci-Fi Theatre, anyone but me remember that? God, I'm old) I likes it. The differences from its predicessor, and knowing that we must compare the two - having seen them - is fun. The writers attempted to create an original series on a play board previously created. Tough job. Well done, so far.

I agree, when you mention the Starbuck character - hard to imagine a woman in a machismo role. The bimbo, pulls it off well tho - don't ya thinks?
J/K, 'bout the bimbo part. I like the changes, the inventions, the new attitudes and the possibiilties the writers have put into the script.

It is intriguing how they will progress with this. People, concealing cylons - out of "love". Cylons, becoming more human than they were intended - over extending their programs. It is like creating an AI to react a certain way or in a certain manner and it creating its own program that eventually defeats all comers. Or, becomes the master of its master.

As the Mars probe said: I'm alive.

After two weeks of silence.

The_Doctor
01-25-2005, 11:54
It was a great series. It has ended over here. There must be a second series, becuase the first did not finish the story.

econ21
01-26-2005, 16:04
Martinus, it was jaw-dropping end to the first season, though, wasn't it? My young son said he saw the final twist on Caprica coming - why Starbuck could not shoot - but we were both gob-smacked at the final scene on the bridge of the Battlestar. You are right though, if they don't commission a second season, I'll be livid.

I can't help feeling that this series shows where conventional sci-fi TV series went wrong - you can't confine stories to 45 minutes, you have to have a story that arcs over the entire show and allows for character development.

KafirChobee, yes, I like the stuff about the AI - I'm especially intrigued by the religious angle. It may ultimately disappoint - as I find most mystical mumbo-jumbo does - but it's doing a pretty fine show of smoke and mirrors right now.

And, yes, the Starbuck character is eminently watchable but I would not call her a bimbo. She's more a female "jock", as I think macho young men are called in the US. But come to think of it, maybe jocks are male bimbos? ~D The character does have the potential for some depth, however, as the episode on torturing the Cylon prisoner showed.

The_Doctor
01-26-2005, 19:29
I agree it was jaw-dropping end to the first series.

*Spoilerland*




















I think that religious woman is a cylon, because she was encouraging and telling the president to follow that prophishy. This lead to Starbuck going to caprica, the president being arrested and Boomer going to that cylon baseship, where I think she was "activated" or given new instrustions which lead to Cmdr. Adama being killed. This leaves the fleet with Baltar in control, who we all know is under cylon control.

The thing with Boomer I worked out pretty quickly. The name Boomer made me thing "Baby Boomer generation" and she was always having sex. That is probably why the fleet has not been destroyed.

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