Celt?

[Dimeola]

http://www.dimeolas.com/Celt1.jpg
This is a Celt warrior pic based on Malis` celt figure.....what would you guys suggest...is it realistic? What touches would add to that?
Thx,
Dimeolas

[Oaty]

This is a Celt warrior pic based on Malis` celt figure.....what would you guys suggest...is it realistic? What touches would add to that?

Well to me it looks too much like a modern day person dressed up. Nice artwork

[Dimeola]

Ok thx for the feedback, is it the face?
Dimeolas

[sapi]

the hair, i think

[thrashaholic]

Why is he wearing crotchless trousers? ~;)

I think its accuracy entirely depends on what type of Celt you are trying to portray. Is he British? Gaulish? a common man? a noble? All these things would affect his clothing hairstyle etc. There was no such thing as a generic Celt.

Otherwise v. good

[Dooz]

I see London,
I see France,
I see celtic underpants....
no wait... no I don't... I see a celtic testicles... not cool...
but uh, it's cool other than that

[Somebody Else]

Throw some mud at him... lots of mud. And make the hair scragglier. And maybe some tattoo type things. Etc. etc. etc.

[Barbarossa82]

Very cool artwork, Dimeolas! What are you using to make these?

[Zorn]

He certainly lacks lots of bodyhair.

[Didz]

If I was asked to enhance this image I would do the following.

1) Hair, much longer, unkempted possibily braided and beaded with oramental rings.

2) Face, unshaven or even bearded, large unkempt moustache, skin much darker and wind tanned.

3) Body, more muscled unless this is supposed to be an underage stripling, again darker wind tanned skin. Heavily tattoed and scarred.

4) Trappings, jewellery, basic torque, amulets, earring, trews more irregular patterning closer perhaps to tartan, more texture to look like rough material and much baggier so they don't look like designer slacks. Shield perhaps needs dulling down so it look handpainted. Sword perhaos needs to be slightly longer and needs to hang heavily on the warriors hip rather than float.

(In practice that belt would be totally incapable of supporting that sword anyway, which suggests perhaps a shoulder strap or a much stronger wait band.)

[Didz]

This image based upon the descriptions and images from Roman Coins and battle reports is probably closer to the true image of celtic warriors.

http://www.kernunnos.com/culture/warriors/belgae.jpe

The descriptions of images found on Roman coins suggests:

The shield is long, oval with rounded ends and is decorated.

The helmet is horned and has long ear and neck guards.

The armor appears to be cloth which according to classical historians was brightly colored and patterned. Torques were worn round the neck by all but the poorest of warriors and a horned helmets by many.

The more accomplished and richer warriors wore chain mail as it is said that it was the Celts who invented this form of armour, though the labour involved probably meant it was limited to nobles and chieftains. Poorer warriors are depicted wearing reinforced scale armour and decorated aprons of studded leather or metal repousse.

Very few portraits exist of actual Celts and are usually idealized. However, two coins minted by the moneyer L. Hostilius Saserna show celtic images of celtic warriors head in profile .

The appearance of these portraits is much different than those of depicting Romans of the same period, enhancing their 'barbarian' or foreign nature to Roman citizens.

The hair is shown to be long and probably limed, the beard and mustaches are prominent and the probably also limed to make them more pronounced. the faces appeared angular with large noses and jutting chins probalby enhanced by the beard. Both characters are shouwn wearing a chain around his neck which might be a stylized Torque or a deliberate indication that the character is a captive.

[Kraxis]

I take it that, that this man is supposed to be a regular warrior, one that has been conscripted into service, but knows how to fight.
Make him a bit older, but it is not very important.
Make the shield oval or octagonal, rather than slightly 8-figured.
Make the spearhead more rounded and leafshaped, as well as a bit bigger. It is after all supposed to be the primary weapon.
If he is a Briton you might want to paint him with some light blue patterns along the lines of those on the shield.
The hair should be slightly longer and/or less red. If longer make it more slick, and if only less red then make it more spiky.
And of course make him more buff, not muscular, but he is a strong farmer who has not tried any civilized bath or anything like that. Strong but not Arnold.

[Es Arkajae]

Give him some tats or some scraggly hair, make him look less like an effete male Parisian fashion model;)

Good work though mate.

[Wishazu]

Throw some mud at him... lots of mud. And make the hair scragglier. And maybe some tattoo type things. Etc. etc. etc.


didnt the celts invent soap? i allways thought they were actually a very clean people as far as washing goes etc. certainly more than the romans who just used to scrape mud off themselves with sticks

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

didnt the celts invent soap? i allways thought they were actually a very clean people as far as washing goes etc. certainly more than the romans who just used to scrape mud off themselves with sticksAbsolutelly correct. Celts invented soap and actually tought Romans to be crude and unclean because these didn't shaved their body hair and used oil and sticks to scrape dirt of themselves.

The misconceptions that people have about Celts... :rolleyes:

[Dimeola]

I was thinking of the beserker.....hair going up and didnt want to go nude but with just pants....maybe i`m remembering a stereotype.
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[Dimeola]

Oh...crotchless trousers because he is French....ok because it is a test render and all the adjustments wont be made until the final. I just wanted to get some feedback on the basic idea. I wanted to do some battle pics and am starting to do the basic figures.
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[Dimeola]

Using Poser5 with the realskinshader from www.runtimedna.com its free.....and the fake radiosity lights from www.renderosity.com . Figures from Jon Malis...the face is from the King arthur but it seems he looks too clean....
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[Spino]

didnt the celts invent soap? i allways thought they were actually a very clean people as far as washing goes etc. certainly more than the romans who just used to scrape mud off themselves with sticks

Indeed. In fact the sole reason the Romans invented indoor plumbing and heated bath houses was not to engage in hygenic practices but to facilitate the exchange of bodily fluids via hot steamy gay sex.

By the way did you know Caesar Augustus' homo nickname was Augustus Grabass?

[Didz]

didnt the celts invent soap? i allways thought they were actually a very clean people as far as washing goes etc. certainly more than the romans who just used to scrape mud off themselves with sticks

Not sure whether the Celts invented Soap but they were certainly using soap long before the Romans arrived in Britain.

Extract from "A Short History of Soap, from Babylon to the Industrial Revolution"

Talking about the inhabitants of Gallia, the Celts, Plinius narrates of a product, made by mixing goat's fat and potash from birch ashes, which was used to ligthen the colour of their hair and make it stiffer (sounds like hair gel is as old as soap, then! :-)

And apparently, the Celts themselves are responsible for teaching the Romans, who preferred to use oils mixed with fine sand or aromatic herbs to clean and massage their skin, how to use soap for personal cleaning. The meaning of the Late Latin word "sapo", indeed, was "a mixture of tallow and ashes used to discolour hair, of Celtic or Germanic origin".
http://www.soapnaturally.org/soaphistory.html

[Es Arkajae]

Indeed. In fact the sole reason the Romans invented indoor plumbing and heated bath houses was not to engage in hygenic practices but to facilitate the exchange of bodily fluids via hot steamy gay sex.

By the way did you know Caesar Augustus' homo nickname was Augustus Grabass?

LMAO!~D

[Oaty]

And another use for oil was to keep your body warm. But the celts were smart enough to wear pants to keep warm.