Spoils of marriage

[bretwalda]

Finally I have seen this.

The Sicilians died out without a heir. (I had nothing to do with it!) :wink:
And see what happened: The rebel territories joined the Horde because of marriage, so Malta, Sicily, Naples and Tuscany became GH territory... Strange :wink:


http://bretwalda.uw.hu/mtw/mongol_sicily.gif

This is the message:


http://bretwalda.uw.hu/mtw/spoilsofmarriage.gif

Concluding: One can get territory through marriage if the other one is eliminated without a heir...

[sir_schwick]

I have never seen marraige do anything but improve loyalties of generals. No one wants to marry my sons, even with max influence and piety. Even if they do and I wipe out the factions family, some royal comes along and gets the pie.

[Mithrandir]

Sir Schwick, it only happens if you marry your princesses to foreign princes, not to your own generals...

[Martok]

Sir Schwick, it only happens if you marry your princesses to foreign princes, not to your own generals...


Exactly. My roommate had an English campaign where he had managed to get a Spanish princess to marry England's crown prince. My roommie then arranged some "accidents" for the Spanish king and his 2 sons, and suddenly the English banner was waving over the entire Iberian peninsula. ~D

[sir_schwick]

Even when I do manage to marry foreign princesses with my sons and wipe out their blood line, the territories do not come over to me. I have never seen this happne in a single game. Does being at war affect that kind of inheritance, or if they have generals of royal blood?

[Darius]

I'd suspect youd have to be at peace with them, and that its also maybe only a chance thing that some or all may go over to you. The only thing that might help influence your chances is to maybe get as many intermarriages going as possible between your target province and yourself.

[Sardo]

Even when I do manage to marry foreign princesses with my sons and wipe out their blood line, the territories do not come over to me. I have never seen this happne in a single game. Does being at war affect that kind of inheritance, or if they have generals of royal blood?

Obviously foreign royals are going to scrap your name from their will the moment you start sending armies into their territory. You are after all explicitly making it clear that you intend to kill their entire family.
If you want to wipe out a royal bloodline and still get the inheritance, you'll have to be a bit more subtle... one well-placed assassin can bring you more profit than an entire army. Also, I hear that catholic kings make for a particularly nice little fire, when found to be not-so-pious after all.

Speaking of inheritances through marriage, I once had a very interesting case of that (at least I can think of no other explanation). In my HRE campaign I had made war upon the Sicilians for the possession of Naples. Having achieved my goal, I made peace with them again and let one of their dynasty marry a German princess.
Now my Emperor was in his early sixties and it would take a few more years for his son to come of age when he died, leaving the rule to his brother. Unfortunately, this brother was only two years younger and also died before the aforementioned heir had come of age. So the Duke of Flanders was elected Emperor next, which in itself was not so bad, since he was a pretty good ruler.
However, when I checked the map I suddenly realized that Naples had turned grey again! Apparantly, upon the death of the last Emperor of the first bloodline, the Sicilians decided they now had a right to claim back their former province, along with all the troops in it. Suffice to say I was irked to lose a full stack of Viking troops which had been assembled in Naples to await redeployment in garrisons across the Empire. Nonetheless it was a fun experience, witnessing a faction inheriting land without the former owner actually being wiped out.

Most of the Vikings were destroyed when they attacked (my) Rome, though.
A sad loss.