Some basic campaign editing

[spykiller]

Ok I am totaly new to modding so forgive me if I made some stupid mistakes creating a new campaign map. What I wanted to do is making a new campaign map with the prologue's map.

Here is a summary from what I have done:

1. I used some files from the sons of mars folder I copied and pasted them into a new folder. The files where:
descr_disasters,
descr_regions,
descr_mercenaries,
descr_regions_and_settlement_name_lookup,
descr_strat,
descr_terrain,
map_climates.tga,
map_features.tga,
map_ground_types.tga,
map_heights.tga,
map_regions.tga,
map_roughness.tga,
map_trade_routes.tga,
radar_map1.tga,
radar_map2.tga,
water_surface.tga and I added the map_FE.tga file

2. I copied the sons_of_mars_campaign_regions_and_settlement_names in the text folder and pasted it and renamed it to newmod_campaign_regions_and_settlement_names

3. Then I edited the descr_regions.txt file so that the julii would have Tarquinii as a city

4. Then I did some basic editing to descr_strat.txt changing the start date changing the Tarquinii stats ect and I changed radar2.tga to the same size as map_regions.tga

But eventualy I dident get the map loading it just keeps on crashing to my desktop and I dont know what to edit anymore.

So if one of you would be kind enough to check if my files are ok or if any1 has got some tips than that would sure help out.
I uploaded my files here http://www.geocities.com/rometotalwar2004/mod.zip

Thx in advance

[Hans Kloss]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13927

try this one

[Myrddraal]

Hey Maly Jacek, spykiller already knows how to edit the campaign map. I can't see the use of you link. Besides, if you want a campaign map guide, this one is the best ~;) https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=39456

I'll have a look at your files, spykiller. My first impression is that you didn't copy the file in the text folder for the city names... Have you?

[spykiller]

Yes I already know some campaign editing but thanks anyway. And did copied the text file sons_of_mars_regions_and_settlement_names and renamend it to newmod_campaign_regions_and_settlement_names

Though I saw one mistake I had a wrong campaign name but I fixed it and it still doenst work. And I made the descr_strat.txt file a bit more synoptic it now looks like this http://www.geocities.com/rometotalwar2004/descr_strat.txt
but still no succes

[spykiller]

Any suggestions?

[KingJo5]

actually im trying to do the same thing and the thing is, the big guys,
Duke John and that Mrrdral they are some the greatest campaign modders in the world, for Rome total war I mean they like represent everything that is Rome, and yes they share their skill, but, however, as much as i respect them i think they should take on some responsibilities, for example, Answer peoples questions and perhaps take them more seriouse, i must say, your guides are exelent but perhaps, unfinished, im no noob to modding, but after 6 weeks of trying this stupid map, which by the way is on the same principles of my friend spykiller here, and i have been unsucsessful in taken the prologue map and enlarging it to about 4x the size, i think i will go mad,
so please Mrrhdral and Duke John - your idols to us and help us out please,
this was a community plea done by myself KingJo5

[Meneldil]

Have you edited desc_terrain.txt ?

[Myrddraal]

Hi KingJo5, welcome to the forums. I do my best to help people out. You cant underestimate the quantity of maps I look through, and I don't just answer a question here and there, I go out looking to answer peoples questions, but I'm not Superman, and my time is limited. I can only do my best...

I'm downloading your files right now Spykiller...

[Myrddraal]

Hm, I don't know if this will cause an error, but I notice that you have spaced the traits of you characters like this:

trait1 , trait2 , trait3 , etc

When it should be:

trait1, trait2, trait3, etc

[KingJo5]

To Myrddraal
after a bit of consideration i would very much like to apologise i guess i do underestimate and its not as if people pay you!!!!
I aprreciate everything you, ive come down for the TWcentre and have found this place a much better place qith guys like you around so cheers!!!!
After unsucsessfully modding the campaign map over and over again, i would like to say, its probably the worst part of modding:(
Ive never seem to ge anywhere, thanks for the great guide by the way, so im very appreciative and at one stage i had a working map, then, blew when i messed around with resizing the stupid thing,
what i think is that we need someone to program a decent mapo editor for us, mr hides one is good but insuffiecent for my needs, i can skin, modle, but this point gets me down, I set to make a mod which concentrated on Italy after the fall of roman empire, nothing drastic, i wanted that lovely ready made prologue map and resize by around 4X and have a fully large map for italy that i could then play about with :)
Is that all a dream or something possible, please tell if i should give up, i feel so stupid, your man Myrddraal and i feel so privleged to have spoken to you,
thanks ( water drops from eye)
-KingJo5

[Myrddraal]

So basically you resized the prologue campaign map but is doesn't work

Send the files to the.mad.toad@gmail.com, and I'll look through them quickly.
I assume you resized them using pixel resize not anything which blurs the pixels.
I assume you moved the armies when you resized the map, and make sure that the towns still have one pixel per town and stuff.
Also make sure the julii have a city (minor point)
Please PM me when you've sent it.

Any luck Spy?

[KingJo5]

since then i have lost that map, however, it is no different from Spy's, where is he anyway, do you have any idea why his is not working? Ive looked through them and as far as i can tell there is no reason why it should not work, i think this help will benefit both me and spy,
But has any one ever ever achieved this?
making a fully working prologue - no intro and stuff?
then quadrooopled it,
I cant be the only one, surely, im only making a little scenario mod set just after the collapse of the roman empire with ostrogoths from the north and normans from the south,
Ive made some nice skins and its a damn shame this sets me back, oh well,
But was it a stupid thing, anyhow? because it sure is seeming like it, way to out of my league, i would very much appreciate hearing from someone who has done a simalar thing,
by the way Myrddaal i would happily help out at your mod sometime, ;-)
-KingJo5

[smeagle]

I'm a total noob when it comes to mods and things but is it possible to use the British map from MTW instead of giving yourself extra work?

[Myrddraal]

Hi smeagol, and welcome to the forums.

You can't use a MTW map in RTW. The system is completely different.

Edit: I just read your post King. You can model and skin and you could help me for my mod. If you could that would be absolutely awsome. I don't care how much or little you help me out, but you don't know how hard I've tried to get a modeller to help out. Thx so much. Do you use MSN? try mad_toad@hotmail.com

[spykiller]

Hm, I don't know if this will cause an error, but I notice that you have spaced the traits of you characters like this:

trait1 , trait2 , trait3 , etc

When it should be:

trait1, trait2, trait3, etc
I just spaced the traits the same way as they did in the prologue's campaign script though I have noticed the difference in the imperial campaign script. So to be sure I edited the scipt but still no succes. But I got a feeling that my army's coordinates might be wrong, but thats just a hunch :P

[KingJo5]

SPykiller you and me- we're on the same boat, and you know what i think, we could help each other out, i want exactly the same thing as you, just a simple map of italy, its should take some one with experience too long,
I can modle and have done a bit of skins on the subject of Italy after the fall of the roman empire, not sure about you, I hope you dont mind but i completely buggered up my one so i downloaded yours, congratulations your a mod designer;)
So, i have cheaked it out as much as i could, Could some one please please please tell us if they have had simalar experience i need this damn thing to fit the missing part of the jogsaw.
by the way Myrddraal, first i need to get my priorities straite, looking over your mod, a cool idea i must say, when im sorted with this i hope to offer my services to anyone, and i count this as for practice for any modling i want to do in the future, i must say this though, we still got a long way to go before we can fully mod the game, perhaps Imperial glory will be better, lol
-KingJo5

[spykiller]

I think your right maybe we can discuss this on msn my adres is c_mastop@hotmail.com
And I havent skinned or modeld yet but im sure I can figure that out to :)