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Boromir
05-07-2002, 22:14
names in bold qualify.

Group 4
GlobalViolence....2-0-1355
7Bear7Yogi...........1-1-1347
Snowman..............1-1-1257
NagatsukaShumi.......0-2-890

Group 5
Tankdogg2.........2-0-1199
BarryNoDachi.........1-1-1338
AggonyCougar.........0-2-605

Group6***
Spoon.............1-0-635
KenchiDV.............0-1-349

THESE ARE THE ONLY RESULTS I HAVE FOR THIS GROUP.

Group 7
LordTed...........3-0-2123
TenkiOnimushi........1-1-1246
KenchiTera...........0-2-775
7Cub7Blade...........0-1-362

Group 8
7Bear7Grizzly.....2-1-1730
GlobalCrills.........2-0-1373
Icey.................1-1-1354
Bomilkar.............0-3-1688

***I will go searching for the other group 6 results. In the meantime if any of those players involved have a valid logfile for results in that group please send me them ASAP. 5pm Tomorrow will be the latest I will accept them.

Again, thanks to all those who competed.

**SEMI FINALS**

The playoff for a semi final spot will be between Tankdogg2 and the winner of the disputed group 6.

then....

LordTed v Playoff Winner
7Bear7Grizzly v Global Violence.

Games will be played under the same rules as the league.

Games played by noon GMT May 16th

Thanks for all you participation.

Boromir...

05-07-2002, 22:36
Boro, didn't I mail you the results of my vs Blade match? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/mad.gif I should have a better standing!

Anyways it doesn't matter coz Ted passed anyway http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

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Tankdogg123
05-07-2002, 22:48
boromir why do I have to playoff for semi-final? It;s not my fault I made short work of one of my oppenents making the game over b4 i could get anymore kills. It should have been least losses is better.

MagyarKhans Cham
05-07-2002, 23:31
I know drb played against spoon

BarryNoDachi
05-08-2002, 03:18
im sure he played dv too http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif i can vouch that drb beat him too http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif . gl drb http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif have you looked in the group 6 thread?

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MagyarKhans Cham
05-08-2002, 03:57
he did beat spoon as well, so he will be groupleader i guess

Lethal DRB
05-08-2002, 16:21
??????????????????????????????????????????
THIS IS WRONG!
what is it?
hmmm boro.
i mailed u 2 weeks ago that i played dv.
and 1 1/2 weeks ago i mailed i played sp00n.
i won both but i dont know for sure the kills.
im sure i mailed u!!!!
hope u reseved my mails.

DRB

Lethal DRB
05-08-2002, 16:25
Yes mag and Baryy.
u 2 know i played them and im sure i mailed boro.
im even sure i mailed boro twice of my result vs s00n.
so i dont know what is wrong?
i mail him again but i forgot the kills now.

DRB

MagyarKhans Cham
05-08-2002, 21:01
our GWIS is watching boro closely on his stance towards the Wolves. He must feel that breath in his neck :o)

LordTed
05-08-2002, 23:18
I am pleased with my result if its an concelation http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Lethal DRB
05-08-2002, 23:21
Well i mailed boro again today.

hope u reseved it now!

DRB

Boromir
05-09-2002, 19:46
Quote Originally posted by MagyarKhans Cham:
our GWIS is watching boro closely on his stance towards the Wolves. He must feel that breath in his neck http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/redface.gif)[/QUOTE]

Your
Geriatric
Wa**er
In
Straight Jacket

simply has no idea.

I have mailed DRB saying I need the kills
Them is the rules.
They were never posted. I got a mail saying I beat DV etc but not in the way stated, and without the kill count.
I have also mailed spoon to see if he has the kill count on his logfiles.
It's not as if I am not trying to help.
Time has run out.
Spoon qualifies.
End of Group.
Thank you

Boromir...

MagyarKhans Cham
05-10-2002, 04:30
As u wish Boromir, even Sp00n will tell u Drb beated him. But what the ehck, its your old niggling grudge i guess...


DRB ur out wolfy. U did well and u will earn a wolf recognition for it.

lol, what a joke.

FasT
05-10-2002, 05:49
Is this how a Tourney is run?
If so its a plain joke.........This just goes to show the honour and respect ppl have.
He didnt send kills,he make a mistake but he won both battles so surely he should go through?Honour
So what happens if SpOOn declines to go through?When clearly DRB won group?
Think u been hard done by DRB.

MagyarKhans Cham
05-10-2002, 06:28
hmmm cub this is how some hunt wolves... :o)

our Khan already got this message by now. lets wait when he responds. if he ever will, only Tengri knows.

Magyar Khan
05-10-2002, 13:28
Hi boro, ur wise in your decisions once more m8. Seems u have still problems with showing respect to the wolves.

Sorry for you DRB, it is just how wise people take care of things in this cruel world. Remember that harsh environments will make u a better man after all.

At least the final cant be a wolfonly matter which would have made us suspicious (once more).

Good luck to all involved.

Boromir
05-10-2002, 16:02
Look babies,
Whats the point in having rules if they are not followed.
Its about time that MagyarKhan got his head out from his own arse and also stopped being paranoid.
I have not been unfair. I have given many opportunities to sort this problem out.
In my opinion it has not been sorted. Therefore As stated by Terazawa, my decision is final. I have given Spoon the opportunity to respond also, and as yet he has not done so, So I have no choice in the matter.

And by the way, this Is another reason the community sags. As soon as a decision goes against a wolf the whole seedy lot of them gang up and make it a "prejudice thing".
You are all hyenas, not wolves.
You give the impression of giving and indeed you have to the community, but its ruined and offset by childish, thoughtless childish games and behaviour.
I dont care if this little outburst costs me my job here at the Org either.
It's about time that the Wolves, especially Cham,Sham,Khan whatever you want to call yourself learnt some lessons. Talking to yourself like that is normally called schizophrenia.
Stop being so paranoid. Play the game or leave alone the people who are happy to just play without your petty "hunts" "games" etc.

You basically have accused me of cheating or "fixing results".
That will not do.
I don't think it should be tolerated.

Fastcub you have shown a great deal of enthusiasm for the game. Dont get turned into MagyarKhanII. You are better than that.

Apologies to the Org for my behaviour here but something has to be said.

People can make their own conclusions about my decision here.
I would like to think it stands for authority against hooligans.
Magyars behaviour is much like that of Roy Keane, throwing his weight around and shoving his face into the referee's face, harassing him.
Well sorry buster, It dont work with me.

Boromir...




[This message has been edited by Boromir (edited 05-10-2002).]

FasT
05-10-2002, 18:27
Boro http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif i was just pointing out it all seemed a little unfair.Not havin a go,i just hoped common sense would prevail on this matter?
U have spoken(Boro)and said SpOOn goes throughUr the BoSS http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

Well GL to all who r left...

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FastCub

Boromir
05-10-2002, 20:38
Dear FastCub,

A tourney such as this was run along honourable lines.
For anyone such as yourself and "your Khan" to suggest that my decision is in anyway prejudiced is laughable.
I am offended and insulted by those comments.

I tell you what though I am gonna create another name - Boromir's Voice, where I can go around slagging people off, then I can post with this name apologising for my other personality and its bad mouth alongside sneering cheeky comments.
Would that be ok??
Is it too much to ask for support from wolfies during tournaments.
As the saying goes, again related to football - "no player is bigger than the club". Here I think "No clan is bigger than the game" applies. Think about it.
I think I have said everything I needed to say for the time being.

Thanks

Boromir...

Tankdogg123
05-10-2002, 20:43
I agree with boro if he was gonna try and screw someone in this tourney it would probably have been me. Remember Drb had trouble with e-mails at the very beginning when trying to enlist into tourney and nothing has happened to lordted. Maybe DRB should learn how to use e-mail properly.

FasT
05-10-2002, 21:51
Ok Boro the last thing i want and it just wont happen is get into a heated debate! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
But i never pointed out u had anything against our Clan??? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/confused.gif
It wouldnt matter if it was tom, dick or harry.I just feel he was hard done by thats all.
These r my views,and like i said GL with rest of tourney and to all who r left.
Hope there r a few more http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

FasT

Boromir
05-10-2002, 22:16
Sorry FastCub,
I was mainly directing that at Cham, or Magyar whichever he is.
You were not making insinuations, I apologise.

Boromir...

FasT
05-10-2002, 23:08
No need to opologise Boro.I just thank u for listening.
Maybe some more rules must be implimanted to sort these problems out?
Anyway is the Org still gunna host a 3v3 tourney?
Im gunna ask a few ppl i know to be the moderaters for this,as i know it takes much time?
Then i want to get some rules agreed by the chosen few.I think maybe 5 ppl to run the tourney,thus will help alot of problems i hope?
Anywaz cya online soon! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

MagyarKhans Cham
05-10-2002, 23:24
You basically have accused me of cheating or "fixing results".

what i was implying is not fixing results but solving situations. it is sad that teh best player out of these battles has not gone thru.

our GWIS is watching boro closely on his stance towards the Wolves. He must feel that breath in his neck :o)

i posted this and your reply stunned me

Geriatic Wa**er

and after the insinuations...

Babies
and
arse

still problems showing respect to better players, clans and ex-dreads? and u wondered why not all wolves would participate in that tourney at forehand?

Good luck with your tourney
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Orlok Ted the pressure is on u alone now :o)

Khan7
05-11-2002, 01:52
Look Boro the Wolves do as much for this game as anyone. Unfortunately I must say I've been a bit disappointed with their cavalier and selfish behavior here, but to be perfectly blunt-- it's their prerogative. And I can't say I'm particularly impressed with your level of self-containment.

It's just sad that things have come to this for Shogun.

Matt

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darealruler
05-11-2002, 04:24
Hi boromir,

I feel I should stand up and speak my word, as DRB (my little brother) is momentarily out of the country for a soccer tourney in Germany.
He played some marvelous battles in the tourney it seemed, and was extremely excited about his great results against well known players (like every 13 year old would be).
He wrote down the scores of every battle, and asked me to check them with logfiles again, so he wouldnt be out of the tourney by a stupid small mistake.

Hilariously this just happened to have taken place. Not by wrong results, but because E-mails didnt got through. I investigated the case, and it seems your email links sends email through outlook express, which (because pc's got formatted for better gameplay) didnt got installed properly by ME, as DRB is too young to understand how to modify these settings.

This brought you in problems with your scedule and planning next tourney fase, and therefore I sincerely apoligize.
But I was there when DRB also spoke to you online and asked if you got the results from a match (dont remember which).
He said he would send it again, and he retried. After that I hadnt spoken to him.

I feel very very sorry for him this has to happen this way, and Im sure he will be greatly disappointed by the way this has to be solved.
He spend many, many hours in this tourney, and was here every day to meet templarlongbow to finish his last battle to win the group. Sacrificing school results by staying here till midnight, seems to have been for nothing.

And this while both group members both said they LOST their matches against DRB.
He wasnt capable of sending E-mails because the problem that came by was unknown to him and he surely could have ever found the problem why his emails didnt got to the point of destination.

Therefore I would ask you as a human being, and good tourney host, to think about your decision to let spoon go through (although I really also would grant him a place in next round) as you knew what is the problem / was the problem, and what he did to continue to next round.

Talk about this with spoon first if you want to make a change so he wont be against your decision. If he agrees, please be generous, and accept the fact, that a 13 year old boy with great skills should continue the tourney, to keep it one which will be remembered as best tourney 2002!

I know its hard to turn back a decision, but think with an honoust heart and im sure you will make the right decision.

sincerely, dare.

P.S. If decision is positive, reply so here, and ill send you an e-mail with the results and will try to find out which logfiles belong to the matches.
Please, keep your mind with the fact that the boy is only 13, and you would understand his very very dissapointed feelings when he doesnt get through.

[This message has been edited by darealruler (edited 05-10-2002).]

Kas
05-11-2002, 05:43
Dareal this is very sad...I hope this will be solved.

AggonyKas

Sir Kuma of The Org
05-11-2002, 07:59
Guess Nobody will want to organize a tourney after this. I must agree with Khan, sad, very sad, for Boromir, for the 13 year old kid and everyone involved.

This is why i'm not into MP, people forget so easily that this is only a game, supposed to be fun.

If you really want to exchange, communicate on this and try to iron things out , you don't need an audience. Audiences are always a bad thing because then everyone postures like a rooster in an henhouse and is more worried about how they *look* than solving a problem.

Use ICQ or a private chat room.

Take a breather guys, TIME OUT!!!!





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Ils sont grands seulement parce que nous sommes à genoux. Alors levons-nous debout!!!

macajor
05-11-2002, 13:38
wowwee

thats a bit unfair, the whole seedy lot gang up.

i can think of 7 wolves that havent said a word. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

RageMonsta
05-11-2002, 15:08
Confused....the players who he beat have said he beat them to the host?.....the host refuses to take the results because the e-mail with the battle kills did not arrive?

The kills are not important as the little wolf came top in the group on points without the need for kill count.....but I understand that the rules must have stated on 'recieving the e-mail will the results be collected'.

with the agreement of the 2 losing players that they were beat....rules should be put to one side and wisdom of judgement take its rightful place.

The best way for this to be resolved would be that the rules stand..but the group 'winner' steps down and lets Lethal take his place in the next round....therefore the rules have not been broken and the 'correct' players goes through...I wouldnt like to take the next round place from somebody who beat me, e-mail or not.

GlobalVio
05-11-2002, 17:12
i argree with monsta
and its not asif its hard all u have to do is swap lethal and spoon how cares bout kills just make him play tank in the playoff
this will make it fair i have been reading and everybody has a good argument here so we should all stand down while letting Boro make his own mind up and not let us change it

thx GlobalVio

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Sp00n
05-11-2002, 20:37
Wow what a fuss,

Calm down guys its only a game, I can confirm that DRB did beat me the score was about 625-432 or something to DRB hope this resolves any arguments.

Sp00n

FasT
05-11-2002, 21:21
Common sense and alittle understanding would help.
Im sure u have a heart of Gold Boro...I think deep down u know what is right from wrong....
Monsta made a good post and im sure most would be happy to go along with this.
Plzs Boro find the time and discuss this with those invovled or email them.
LOL dont tell DRB to email u back though http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

Tankdogg123
05-11-2002, 22:15
Throw them all out and let me take my rightful place in the semi's :-)

darealruler
05-11-2002, 22:36
If you prefer to stay out of "upheated" discussion with uninvolved people, u can send me an email with your reply if you want.

Dare.

(realgreyfox@hotmail.com)

Boromir
05-13-2002, 15:22
Ok,
I think we are all agreed that tourneys(as mentioned by monsta) need to be swift.
I mailed all concerned inculding spoon for him to confirm that DRB beat him.
I set a time limit for all enquiries to be returned to me. None came back so I had to make a decision on the spot.
If SpOOn would like to mail me that he is Happy to allow DRB through then I will alter the decision.
I will stand by whatever SpOOn decides.
I dont think I can say fairer than that.
boromir_of_gondor@hotmail.com

Thank you for all the constructive comments since my last post.
Much Appreciated.

Boromir...

Boromir
05-13-2002, 16:08
Ok again.

I have checked mail and Sp00n has stated that he wishes DRB to qualify.
I said I would stand by sp00ns decision.
So I do
I will post the next phase again so all are clear.

I stand by my original decision as it was made with tourney interest at heart (as Dareal points out, I DO have an honest heart and I made the right decision at the time. Until Now I had no reply from Spoon so I had no choice. As Sp00n is being very honourable, (thank you Sp00n) I will go by his wishes, as that is now the right thing to do.

Thanks

Boromir...


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Kas
05-13-2002, 17:35
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Kas http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

Lethal DRB
05-13-2002, 18:24
(BACK) http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
Well guys.
I was away for 4 days, but I watched all the posts and its quite STUPID of me that i havent mailed on the wright way.
but im still sure i mailed http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
And i think it is the site foult or something.
go to totalwar.org/tournement.
click on the mail TO boromir.
i did that with both games.
and both didnt reseved them so i go to my hotmail from now on and mail.
hope u just reseved my mail boro?
And thanks to sp00n as he gave me hes place.
I hope ur SURE with ur desision because I dont like it to play the next round if u dont want.
officially ur the winner of my stupid brain.
if u still wanna play u can play sp00n.
but still i wanna thank sp00n,boro and my brother that he posted when i was gone.
hope we are all agree with the disision.
and if some1 doesnt let me hear please.
Well i wish all who r trough
THE MOST LUCK AND MOST FUN

DRB

Lethal DRB
05-13-2002, 18:27
BTW:

As i still remember my kills vs sp00n were:
670 or around that.
and losses around 450
vs dv i killed 720 or something and lost 380 men around that.
but i will send it to u thursday boro then im on other computer were r the logfiles on.

DRB

Tankdogg123
05-13-2002, 20:54
I think drb should not be allowed in because i wanna be in the semi finals the easy way.

Boromir
05-13-2002, 21:00
Quote Originally posted by Tankdogg123:
I think drb should not be allowed in because i wanna be in the semi finals the easy way.[/QUOTE]
LOL
Sorry Tank.

Boromir

FasT
05-13-2002, 23:45
I like to thank all in this discussion http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
U see we dont have to rant and rave.Matters can be sorted or resloved if ppl take the time to listen.
Boro rules r rules.I understand u stickin by them.But i think in this case it was a case of a bad mixup.
I think maybe IMO in the next tourney wins kills etc should be mailed and posted in the ORG also.I sure this would also help.
Anywaz GL to all.

MagyarKhans Cham
05-14-2002, 01:57
well done orlok Dareal...

Kocmoc
05-16-2002, 22:09
respect chris!

this shows the real honour....
good luck elo, u can make it http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

koc

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darealruler
05-18-2002, 01:21
Personal thnx to boromir, for listening and fixing this problem in a way, everyone feels good with.
Also thnx chris, for being such a sportsman!

Dare

MagyarKhans Cham
05-18-2002, 15:53
thx cris for helping the youngster wolf out.

thx boro for showing me how to step over your own proudness once again. look m8 its still possible that a wolf wont win it :o)

RageMonsta
05-19-2002, 05:20
Whats the prize?

MagyarKhans Cham
05-20-2002, 22:00
prizes for these kind of things are stupid, the honour in participating and winning it should nbe enuf. it reminds me of teh strike of dutch national team socer players if teh bonusses arenot high enuf when they reach the tourney/final. the poor buggers ...

Boromir
05-20-2002, 22:43
Once again (twice in a row)

I have to agree with Cham.

The prize is an .org Champions Icon donated by Tera I believe.

Boromir...