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MagyarKhans Cham
06-18-2002, 06:04
As i remember some recordings of good players at the GWIS (Grey Wolf Intelligence Service) library it listed (alphabetical order) these names of which our Khan is highly charmed....

Amp (if not bored)
DRBninja (since a month)
HiPLNZdrifta aka aka aka (if he stays nice)
Jemasze (if using horsearchers)
KocMoc (if not emotional, best shadow)
Rageblaze (before he left)
Ragedevil (after he found out how to use a horse)
Spoon (last 1/2year or so)
Youssof (if not bored)

As you notice this list is very short and surely not complete enuf but all these guys can be characterized by the fact that they know how to attack in a non-systematic manner and by using creativity. They solve situations, not just by "going in".

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below the comments by our Khan after teh GWIS reported that i posted the list above in the forums without having permission to do so http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif
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Greetings fellow Warlords,

I find it was about time that i gave my opinion about the skills of the online community. It is a thing that still keeps popping up in the forums and after all teh server was down anyway.

So why not a Kenchi in the list?
Kenchi has good players, Satake, Darthguru and Rath. But they just misses the final step towards the list above. Other Kenchis walk in teh shadow of the ones mentioned herefore.
I am happy tho, to see that Tera gives good info about tactics in the forums and even uses horsearchers more regaruly.

So why not an Elite player?
Elite is a good clan, with some eager members and smart leadership.
Strong players are Fogolin (eager) and Jericho (sneaky). Also just a little step away from the list.
In size, last year, certainly dominating the foyer at moments.

Why not a present day Fear?
Fear had a strong period, just after I left Kenchikuka and was a ronin myself. I saw them in several 3 vs 3 and noticed that the fear sum of 1+1+1 equals 4.
Overall Fear had the strongest group of players (Amp/Koc/Jst/Bong/Obake/NC/Fucyu and many more) untill the clan sadly collapsed.
Till that moment without doubt the most dominating clan.
I missed the first tourney due to time-zone problems but faced 2 fears in teh one after it. After beating Koc, I met Amp in the final who luckily proposed to swap armies. At that time it was clear that amp hardly used horses and got entangled by his own cavalry http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
I fought the "Colour Wars" against KocMoc and was happy to enlist him to the young WolfClan (just MaskedTerror / Darealruler / Attila at that time) as the new 4th Orlok.

So why not a Dread?
So far there is not a dreadmastername that stunned me. Good players tho, who know what to move to what place.
Since some time we have our own ex-dreads within the wolves. Nice players, i like them.

Why not a Lrossa or Paolai?
Lrossa is a good and strong clan, large in size with a considerable amount of good players. In total stronger than Elite ever has been.
Paolai is a strong player himself, who is constantly testing new things out. His weakest point is, he is just not fast and decisive enuf in hurried moments. And without that a battle can become hard. But I am sure once he will be up there. A new feature wolf?

Why not Chaos/Tiger, Chain, Rusties or Shades
Good and nice players for fun games. Thats all. Esp happy to have the Rusties around.
Best Chain/EuroCrusader is mentioned in teh list, its spoon.

So why not a Tenki/Shingi in the list?
They had good members, all at the same level. But not one to keep a sharp eye on.

So why not a Global in the list?
Global is going strong, esp in 2 vs 2. And some of there players show the talent to come close to the list mentioned above.
Lets give them some time.

So why not an Agonny in the list?
See the Global comment. This counts also for the Aggony.

So why not a Celtibero/Marechal/Majestic/Yagyu in the list?
Sorry, nice guys, but there is just not one who will bring unsolvable problems to the battlefield.

Why not a Mizu in the list?
Although these guys know where the bell rings concerning stats and mechanics, somehow -and luckily- they dont know how (are wont) misuse it.

Why not more ronins (RW and others)- undercover players?
Its just hard to keep track of who is who. But each ronin/undercovernewname who have beat me should know that he has beaten more just after it by another unknown new name http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

Why not an angel?
They blow themselves before they become a danger. And angels dont belong in lists but on a cloud in the Everlasting Sky.

Why not an Hattori member?
There was just one who could bring some problems with his musk ashi nagcav combo. It took some studying on what was happening but after that, just nope, noone for the list.

Why not Tankdog?
Just not.

Why not more rages?
Sorry Monsta, although the clan has strong names in it.

Why not more wolves?
MaskedTerror just couldnt make his units dance although he was close to it.
Darealruler will be in the list if he spents more time keeping up his skill and being less nice http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
Lordted is a strong player but only on his conditions.
Swoosh was a fast learner and showed great skill after some time, she could have made it.


I am aware of teh fact that it wont be complete so if anyone feels he is left out, just give a little sign. If anyone also thinks that his skill is highly underrated give a sign as well.

Greetings and have fun. After all there is more honour in being nice than being skillfull in the field of battle.

Magyar Khan

PS special thanks to my tutor,
SubudaiLives So.
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its me Chammy...

So anyone left out?

I am sure some of u will be pissed, but remember it is just our clans recording and our Khans opinion on these things. So feel free to call the list "one sided".

Ofcourse the wolves den is open for constructive input.

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[This message has been edited by MagyarKhans Cham (edited 06-18-2002).]

Elrich of Gaul
06-18-2002, 08:50
Intriguing. Only ones I don't agree with are Mizu and Tenki. Other than that, seems Maggy is an observant fellow... most of the time.

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"I will follow you anywhere my brother, my captain, my King"

Elrich

RageMonsta
06-18-2002, 08:53
I agree....happy to have seen 2 rage names in the list so maybe I am bias...

Hoped the clans campaign would have settled these issues...but it got held back on the tactical/political level..which was fun for a while but mid Japan was very tiring....second campaign was sadly false due to game spoiling tactics such as gifted lands.

The funny thing is when the clans campaign was first mentioned (about a month before it started maybe longer)..we (Rage) were killing everything we met....but by the time the campaign started we were struggling to find the numbers..(well full power anyway).

On a personel level and being a player of long standing (vet if you like)..I sacrificed my own game for the job of helping promote/maintain the clan....as many clan 'leaders/guides' do...

our choice to not play comp anymore was a major turning point...we were happier as players and had no worries about bad scoring system/drops/pressure to stay up in the 140-150 zone (young folk, that was high back then)..we still kicked (and still do) alot of teeth out...but we have grown fat and lazy off our old reputation and Empire we gained.....as you know 'anda' (Magyar)..from the quote of Ghengis about his future people...this can happen....

Rage will return as force to be watched by all who care for their women and homes....this will happen or Rage will no longer exist...because without being a force we will just become another player/clan that roams the game room talking of the 'old days'.

so if we manage to win on average 7/8 out of ten games now.expect something special in the future...

hope this a good rallying call to all clans..up the standard...maintain the edge..oh and 103 is the way to go hehehe.

LittleGrizzly
06-18-2002, 09:40
hah i could take them all on 9v1
*wakes up*
ive never beaten any of these players!!!
amp played millions of time even 2v1 with another very good player but we still lost (his ally dropped and he attacked his ally) DRB played 1 lost 1. spoon played 2 lost 2. think ive played mag once in a 2v2 but alas slaughter!

i may be baised but AggonyAce aint bad
others i think are good are
GlobalDomintation beat him once but with spear army lost bout 8 times to him
WOCroadrunner i hate him because hes just to damn good 3 played 3 lost

thats what i think

maybe maggy should make a list of players nearly one of the top players u mentioned (keep going till ya get 2 my name but no putting newbies be4 me!)

Rath
06-18-2002, 10:02
Very interesting to read your opinions Magyar. Personally i rate Jaeger and Satake behind only yourself, AMP and Koc...but they have hardly played in recent months so i can understand how they were overlooked. Although i must admit how some names got in that short does puzzle me, but i have hardly played since the last campaign so maybe they have improved very much since then http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

JeRrYgArCiA
06-18-2002, 10:38
has magyar even played some of the majestic members? MajesticWishazu,Soul,wolf, and blaspheme are good players in my opinion. Not me though...im a career newbie.

-majestickokeno

Major Robert Dump
06-18-2002, 13:00
Not all ronins use multiple names Magy.

I beat you twice, both times in the fog. I played you again a short time later using almost the exact same army you were using. You said "I see I have a fan." And then you proceeded to shove my army up my ass and call it a sundae.

I won't even mention 2v2 games against you as they always end up me arguing with an ally I don't know while you and another wolf slaughter us and comment to each other "nice wrap up."

you make me feel like a fajita.

Paolai
06-18-2002, 14:30
completely agreed about me, I am too slow, and I hope to improve for MTW. But I would like to add LRossaVirus to the list, for me he is one of the best players, especially in tag games

Krasturak
06-18-2002, 15:19
Quote Originally posted by MagyarKhans Cham:
Rageblaze (before he left)
Ragedevil (after he found out how to use a horse)[/QUOTE]

Sadly, Devil has also left the game.

BarryNoDachi
06-18-2002, 16:41
i ask if these recordings are available for all to see?

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://www.totalwar.org/kenchikuka)

RageMonsta
06-18-2002, 16:54
Devil has left..until he settles in his new castle..be sure he will be back for MTW.

Blaze alas is sat in the Temple on Gekido map...if look really close you can see him watching the football in his retirement.

When reading this thread by Magyar.please realise its only 'his' opinion...nice and honest which is rare in these forums..you have to agree...

Interesting that sp00ns game actually got better after Euro clan went AWOL...he did play much better.

nice thread anyway..something to take away the pain of Harry the server guy being on strike!

06-18-2002, 18:27
Good list, surely all of them are elite players of the community. Pity the two Rages left and Kocmoc isn't seen much anymore...I hope he comes back as usual. Otherwise that's the creme de la creme. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

However I hold a reservation on HipLnzDrifta...I don't think he deserves even to be mentioned...

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://www.totalwar.org/kenchikuka).
evil is within us... http://www.totalwar.org/site/emomalta.gif

[This message has been edited by Terazawa Tokugawa (edited 06-18-2002).]

LordTed
06-18-2002, 23:24
Sigh my own conditions

MajesticWolf
06-18-2002, 23:42
I can understand why no majestics are up there. though we are growing we still have a long way to go. (i never knew magy was so perseptive). that is a very honorable group of fellows you picked there magy, and congrats to them.

Tankdogg123
06-19-2002, 01:14
No way should should hiplinz be there. I know I should be on the list either but could u plz give a better reason than just not?

MagyarKhans Cham
06-19-2002, 01:30
The odd name in the list is HiPLNZdrifta, actually my Khans noticed that once in a while there is a sad boy around who plays as well as he flames. He carries several names but most with the same attitudes.

So the name listed isnt perhaps HiPLNZ drifta at all but it is listed for the strange fellow with the aggressiv gameplay. So lets say teh name represents all those who have an undercover name and put up a wonderfull battle once in a while http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Krasturak
06-19-2002, 01:40
Quote Originally posted by LordTed:
Sigh my own conditions[/QUOTE]

Play Lordted!
Play Lordted!

(music in background)

(those were the days)

FasT
06-19-2002, 04:06
FasT power! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif Brought me up to date about clans though!

Thnxs Khan i enjoyed readin that...

HOOOOOOWWWwwwwwwwwwwwllllllllll

Lethal DRB
06-19-2002, 20:36
Thanks to let me in that list didnt expect something like that.

DRB

youssof_Toda
06-23-2002, 16:53
what if you think ur skills are overrated?

Vanya
06-24-2002, 23:18
This is a great day! Not a single of the Horseman's loyal field marshalls were on the list! A true accomplishment in my opinion! That means they will continue to stun the opposition, for the enemy will "not know who they face"... MUAHAHAHAHAAAAA!

http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

MagyarKhans Cham
06-25-2002, 05:12
Vanya and Youssof, u both using the same bad drugs?

DarthGuru
06-25-2002, 05:43
Can I have some of that, hehe... jk. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

Anyways I dunt really know what this list is for, but it seems like another list of an elite group. I agree with Rath in that Satake was a great player, Jaeger as well. Rath and Tera are also awesome players. But Im honoured to see that although I was not on the list, my name was even mentioned, even after about 3 months of absence. I can probably think of a number of other people deserving of the list, many of them of Kenchi blood but not all http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif, but I shouldnt even mention them because I have been away for so long. But I have played with most people on the list, and know that most of them are more than qualified. Keep up the good work, and I'll see you all again in M:TW. Good Luck to all.

[This message has been edited by DarthGuru (edited 06-25-2002).]

Vanya
06-25-2002, 20:12
Quote Originally posted by MagyarKhans Cham:
Vanya and Youssof, u both using the same bad drugs?[/QUOTE]

"Bad" is a relative term.

Given Vanya and Youssof do not know each other, and probably do not even live in the same hemisphere, suggesting that they share the same batch is preposterous.

It is quite understandable to fear that which is unknown... or unnatural... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif