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tibilicus
04-14-2005, 16:24
What have you thought of the football this week? Therres been the whole Ac Inter match. And the blues geting through also liverpool and what about tonights matches? ~:handball:
Craterus
04-14-2005, 17:41
Well, I hope Liverpool knock Chelsea out in the semi-finals. If Chelsea go through to final, I hope they lose... badly.
Byzantine Prince
04-14-2005, 17:43
I hate Chelsea. Damn it. I really hope Juventus hold on and win. That would be sweet. Oh wait are they already out?
Craterus
04-14-2005, 17:47
Yep, Juve are out. Liverpool vs. Chelsea in the semis.
Whats the other semi final? I haven't even taken notice.
tibilicus
04-14-2005, 18:52
It will be A.C and i allways forget who this one is any one know?
Craterus
04-14-2005, 19:15
It's Milan vs. PSV. I hope PSV win if Liverpool go through to final. If Chelsea win, I hope Milan go through.
The Stranger
04-14-2005, 20:06
yup PSV vs AC. i hope PSV wins but i think they are going to get their asses kicked. hard, very hard
Craterus
04-14-2005, 20:43
I think so too. Milan are a good side.
Dutch_guy
04-14-2005, 20:58
PSV doesn't stand a chance , hope they win though, great for dutch soccer :balloon2:
however I think Chelsea is gonna win
King Edward
04-14-2005, 22:32
Care free wherever we may be,
We are the Famous CFC,
And we dont give a F*&K,
Whoever you may be,
Cos we are the famous CFC!
Muneyoshi
04-15-2005, 08:07
Milan will win it all, be cool to see PSV win it too. Oh and for the record, I'm not counting the other Semi as a match because, well, its Scouse vs Chelski. Old hated vs New. Id rather just not decide and say the winner of other match is going to win it all ~D
I think Liverpool vs Chelsea will be a cracking match, especially as Liverpool are getting all their injured players back.
I want Liverpool to go through to the final and win, but thats becuase I'm a Liverpool fan ~D .
If Chelsea do go through to the final, I hope they win it because I think its important to support English teams in Europe, whoever they are.
tool Dude
04-15-2005, 11:49
Beware of tha underdog team...PSV.
hope they win though, great for dutch soccer
I have exactly the same opinion!! ~:)
PSV already won now, it's great AZ has moved on in Uefa Cup too, great year for the Netherlands in Europe!
Which team has more chance in going to the final you think, AZ or PSV?
P.S. Let's hope for Ajax to defeat Feyenoord this Sunday, Ajax is gonna' do great in Champions league next year if they make it, you guys hear me? AJAX IS GONNA DO GREAT NEXT YEAR!!!!!
~:)
King Edward
04-15-2005, 15:31
I have exactly the same opinion!! ~:)
PSV already won now, it's great AZ has moved on in Uefa Cup too, great year for the Netherlands in Europe!
Which team has more chance in going to the final you think, AZ or PSV?
P.S. Let's hope for Ajax to defeat Feyenoord this Sunday, Ajax is gonna' do great in Champions league next year if they make it, you guys hear me? AJAX IS GONNA DO GREAT NEXT YEAR!!!!!
~:)
I have to thank PSV for selling us Arjen Robben, the boy is class! However they can have Kezman back, i like the guy but he hasn't exactly set the premiership alight!
The Blind King of Bohemia
04-15-2005, 15:40
Regarding the UEFA Cup, I was very disappointed that Newcastle lost, nay furious. As Souness said, luck clearly wasn't with is. We would've won if we didn't have those injuries, especially Dyer. N'Zogbia had to play the last 20 minutes with a broken collar bone! Now with these injuries and suspensions there's no chance of us beating Man Utd on Sunday. I'd love to have seen us win something this season.
However they can have Kezman back, i like the guy but he hasn't exactly set the premiership alight!
Yep - the words 'barn' and 'door' come to mind!
King Edward
04-15-2005, 15:46
I have no desire to see Newcastle win, i dont really like them as a club but as an Englishman I want to see Sherear Lift the cup (Plus i dislike Man Utd even more than Newcastle Utd!)
I thought you were from Brum BKB how come your a Toon?
tibilicus
04-15-2005, 15:48
Newcastle had to let in 3 goles to loose. Sporting Lisbon scoured 4. Talk about rubbing salt in the wound........
Dutch_guy
04-15-2005, 17:01
I have exactly the same opinion!! ~:)
PSV already won now, it's great AZ has moved on in Uefa Cup too, great year for the Netherlands in Europe!
Which team has more chance in going to the final you think, AZ or PSV?
P.S. Let's hope for Ajax to defeat Feyenoord this Sunday, Ajax is gonna' do great in Champions league next year if they make it, you guys hear me? AJAX IS GONNA DO GREAT NEXT YEAR!!!!!
~:)
EXACTLEY AJAX RULES ~:)
and I think that AZ has a better chance to win versus Sporting Lissabon than PSV against AC Milan, well because PSV is doing great this year , but Milan always does great. But well we can always hope for the best ~;)
And it's already a fact that AJAX is gonna win against Feynoord, I mean Feynoord lost against Den Bosch ( ranked 18 of 18 in Dutch competition )
they MUST win...
tibilicus
04-15-2005, 17:06
Ajax are a top team. I actually think PSV are in with a chance and the match will not be one to miss.
Afonso I of Portugal
04-15-2005, 17:30
"As Souness said, luck clearly wasn't with is. We would've won if we didn't have those injuries, especially Dyer. N'Zogbia had to play the last 20 minutes with a broken collar bone!"
I didn't know you're a Newcastle Utd fan BKB!
You are right about the injuries, however Sporting played without 3 1st team players as well, and have to recover from 0-2 agg!
Best wishes for Newcastle
see ya
~:cheers:
Axeknight
04-15-2005, 18:17
Cisse back, Luis Garcia on top form, Stevie Gerrard, well, just being Stevie, possibly the best back four in the Premiership in Traore, Hyypia, Finnan and Carragher, plus a little sprinkle of Milan's magic in the last third?
Be afriad, Chelsea boys. Be very afriad...
The Blind King of Bohemia
04-15-2005, 18:36
I've supported Newcastle since 1990 and i love them but they need to win something! I'm not looking forward to sunday, unless a bolt of lighting hits the whole man u team before sunday i can't see newcastle surviving against them. ~:eek:
ShadesPanther
04-15-2005, 19:04
Cisse back, Luis Garcia on top form, Stevie Gerrard, well, just being Stevie, possibly the best back four in the Premiership in Traore, Hyypia, Finnan and Carragher, plus a little sprinkle of Milan's magic in the last third?
Be afriad, Chelsea boys. Be very afriad...
I wouldn't count Traore that good. He heading the ball against his own post and tried to score with the follow up. Luckily for Liverpool Dudek saved it ~;)
I want Liverpool to beat Chelsea. It just isnt right with that obsene amount of money (Abramovich makes so much money every hour..think it's 5 million)
Craterus
04-15-2005, 19:13
I read that he stole all his money? If he goes back to Russia, he would be arrested? That's just what I read.
The Stranger
04-15-2005, 19:38
Ajax rules. even they have a bit of a bad period. (i know i supposed to be for a other team)
tibilicus
04-15-2005, 19:44
Newcastle hvent one anything in 50 years. Thats really surprising i think not even a uefa cup or Carling. Very surprising indeed.
The Blind King of Bohemia
04-15-2005, 20:10
They won the fairs cup(old uefa cup) in 1969 but yes it has been a long time. I would love to see them win something in my lifetime! But in order to do that fat needs to be trimmed and i can see loads of players leaving this summer.
Robert, Butt, Kluilvert, Ameobi(the biggest waste of space since the back four of 95/96 season) and a host of others haven't been good enough and deserve to get the boot. I wish Shearer would retire to be honest and i can't believe he is staying on for one more season. He was great but he is old now and can't even outrun a exhausted tortoise. He needs to hang up his boots and a new era needs to be on Tyneside ~D
Afonso I of Portugal
04-16-2005, 00:25
Well,
I wish the best for Newcastle's new era, and let the attacking middlefielder Hugo Viana stay on Sporting Lisbon forever (now is on loan). ~D
i´m not a Sporting lisbon fan(my father is tough) but it was cool seeing them pull that off nonetheless...
as far as the champions league....i don´t care who wins as long as it isn´t chelsea.....Mourinho is a pet hate of mine ~D
Productivity
04-16-2005, 03:47
What have you thought of the football this week? Therres been the whole Ac Inter match. And the blues geting through also liverpool and what about tonights matches? ~:handball:
Call AC Milan, Milan, not AC. I have never heard a Italian refer to them as AC.
AC Milan = Milan
Internazionale = Inter
Muneyoshi
04-16-2005, 07:13
Call AC Milan, Milan, not AC. I have never heard a Italian refer to them as AC.
AC Milan = Milan
Internazionale = Inter
Yep, no Italians call AC Milan simply AC. Its Milan and its Inter. Im glad to see I'm not the only one who is annoyed by this :bow:
tibilicus
04-16-2005, 13:11
Sorry ! Milan and Inter then not a.c and milan. Some people kik up a fuss about nothing these days.
Dutch_guy
04-16-2005, 14:20
Ajax rules. even they have a bit of a bad period. (i know i supposed to be for a other team)
yeah, but they will soon be the number one in Holland , just wait and see :balloon2:
And great to hear that someone from Rotterdam can actually be for Ajax, great man, always thought that was nearly impossible ~D
Productivity
04-18-2005, 06:07
http://english.ajax.nl/upload_mm/1996460807_1999999328_babel.jpg
~:)
The Stranger
04-18-2005, 09:25
yeah, but they will soon be the number one in Holland , just wait and see :balloon2:
And great to hear that someone from Rotterdam can actually be for Ajax, great man, always thought that was nearly impossible ~D
than you have never been in Bospolder nearly everbody is for AJAX there
The Stranger
04-18-2005, 09:27
http://english.ajax.nl/upload_mm/1996460807_1999999328_babel.jpg
~:)
from 2:1 to 2:3 in 12 minutes, do i need to say more ~D
EXACTLEY AJAX RULES ~:)
that's the way!!!!! ~:grouphug:
And it's already a fact that AJAX won against Feynoord
3-2 with a nice goal of maduro!! ~:)
AZ can forget the 2 place, that will be for AJAX!
next year, AJAX will be no. one!
Dutch_guy
04-19-2005, 18:10
yeah , I know .
I've been telling a kid in my class for ages now that AZ doesn't stand a chance , it's so much fun, and for real I don't think AZ will hold on to the 2nd place, I mean get real...
Would love to see Ajax win the Champions league someday soon...
Would love to see Ajax win the Champions league someday soon...
I would totally flip out if that happened, I would problably take a day off at school (actually: just don't come) to celebrate it!
Was it two years ago, that AJAX was whiped out in the 1/4 final? against AC milan? THat match was so exiting! Jari Litmanen(my idol!)was then playing in AJAX and doin' great, but I don't remember much other things about the match.
The only days there are no fights about soccer in my class are the days after 'oranje' had won a match. ~:)
Dutch_guy
04-26-2005, 18:20
I would totally flip out if that happened, I would problably take a day off at school (actually: just don't come) to celebrate it!
It would probably be a national holiday ! ~D
Was it two years ago, that AJAX was whiped out in the 1/4 final? against AC milan? THat match was so exiting! Jari Litmanen(my idol!)was then playing in AJAX and doin' great, but I don't remember much other things about the match.
I have no idea when that was, could be 2 years. We should have won that match, if it wasn't for that f***** Sjvechenko.
I hope PSV wins against AC Milan tonight,It would almost be revenge , not really revenge , but you know what I mean ~:)
The only days there are no fights about soccer in my class are the days after 'oranje' had won a match.
exactley , I remember when we went to the next round in stead of germany ( they played 1-1 against the Checs (sp) )
The whole country was going insane ~:cheers:
I have such an orange hat, which I wear during EK's and WK's. :jester:
The funny thing is, if you wear that thing on other days, people laugh at you!
I'm so against AC milan, sjvechenko, nest and inzaghi! :furious3:
Especially inzaghi, he made the 3d goal, which was fatal for AJAX!
King Edward
04-27-2005, 14:31
I'm a Massive Shevchenko fan, he is one of the best strikers in Europe, I'd love to see him in a Chelsea shirt next season.
Dutch_guy
04-27-2005, 15:32
I'm a Massive Shevchenko fan, he is one of the best strikers in Europe, I'd love to see him in a Chelsea shirt next season.
yeah I like Shevchenko too, great striker, every ball he touches ends up in the goal :bow:
And atm he probably is the best striker in Europe ,followed closely by Eto'o (sp) and in my opinio n Ruud v. Nistelrooy ~:)
:balloon2:
Dutch_guy
04-27-2005, 15:34
Especially inzaghi, he made the 3d goal, which was fatal for AJAX!
yeah I know what you mean, and as I recall that goal was somewere in the last minute of the game ( sounds like Milan.. )
We deserved to go to the next round that year !
:balloon2:
Craterus
04-27-2005, 18:18
yeah I like Shevchenko too, great striker, every ball he touches ends up in the goal :bow:
And atm he probably is the best striker in Europe ,followed closely by Eto'o (sp) and in my opinio n Ruud v. Nistelrooy ~:)
:balloon2:
GAH! Ruud v. Nistelrooy has barely scored this season. Shevchenko is not the best striker in Europe, he is one of. Henry is still at his best, give Cisse a year and he'll be a great talent and Eto'o is a good player.
Dutch_guy
04-29-2005, 16:36
GAH! Ruud v. Nistelrooy has barely scored this season. Shevchenko is not the best striker in Europe, he is one of. Henry is still at his best, give Cisse a year and he'll be a great talent and Eto'o is a good player.
wel Ruud will return to his former level, give him some time.
and well Shevchenko is ATM one of the most productive strikers, in Europe at least.
And yes of course Henry is great, I can't deny that ~:cheers:
Craterus
05-03-2005, 20:12
Well, well, well. All I can say is Liverpool 1 - 0 Chelsea !!!!!!
The Blind King of Bohemia
05-03-2005, 20:32
Lets hope it stays that way! I hate Liverpool but not as much as i hate Chelsea, so come on you scousers! ~D
damn right....Mourinho sucks dead man´s d***.....GO LIVERPOOL!
Duke Dick
05-03-2005, 20:45
If liverpool get into the final, it'll be a complete travesty. Liverpool have no chance of beating AC milan in the final, Chelsea have.
Ronin, are you by any chance a Porto fan....I think i know why you hate mourinho
If liverpool get into the final, it'll be a complete travesty. Liverpool have no chance of beating AC milan in the final, Chelsea have.
Ronin, are you by any chance a Porto fan....I think i know why you hate mourinho
*takes out shotgun and points it at your nose*
don´t you ever mention the possibility of me being a Porto fan AGAIN....
*puts cannon away*
i´m real friendly unless that is mentioned ~D
i´m a SL Benfica fan and damn proud baby!....the Porto fans like mourinho....and latelly our national press is making the guy out to be the second comming or some crap like that...
Craterus
05-03-2005, 21:11
If liverpool get into the final, it'll be a complete travesty. Liverpool have no chance of beating AC milan in the final, Chelsea have.
No chance, just like we have "no chance" of beating Chelsea. That's the thing about sports, any sport. The underdog COULD always win.
Mourinho is out of the champion´s league....
MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA ~D
"I love this moment so much I want to have sex with it."
King Ragnar
05-03-2005, 21:55
"I love this moment so much I want to have sex with it."
As do i ~D ~D ~D ~D ~D
Craterus
05-03-2005, 21:56
Lol, is King Edward around?? I would like to see his response.
marcusbrutus
05-03-2005, 23:52
Liv-er-pool!!! Liv-er-pool!!! Liv-er-pool!!!
LIVe in A POOL !!!!!!!!!!
(liverpool) (lives in a pool)
...
TonkaToys
05-04-2005, 08:59
I can't believe it!!!!! LIVERPOOL!
That last shot by Gudjonsson, I thought that was going in! 6 minutes of extra time - no possible way! Bet Owen wishes he'd stayed an extra year.
Can't wait 'til the Chelsea supporters get in to work!! HA HA HA.
Productivity
05-04-2005, 09:25
yeah I know what you mean, and as I recall that goal was somewere in the last minute of the game ( sounds like Milan.. )
We deserved to go to the next round that year !
:balloon2:
It was in extra time. That was painful. Especially at 5am.
Dutch_guy
05-04-2005, 11:18
I can't believe it!!!!! LIVERPOOL!
That last shot by Gudjonsson, I thought that was going in! 6 minutes of extra time - no possible way! Bet Owen wishes he'd stayed an extra year.
Can't wait 'til the Chelsea supporters get in to work!! HA HA HA.
yeah, I mean how could he miss that shot, talk about THE best chance of the game.
yeah, it really was a great game
Dutch_guy
05-04-2005, 11:22
It was in extra time. That was painful. Especially at 5am.
yeah, thats' Milaan all right...
you were watching the game at 5 am in the morning?
you really wanted to see it didn't you, or was it just that you live in Australia ~:cool:
:balloon2:
Craterus
05-04-2005, 19:12
Gudjohnsen's shot, I was :scared: scared, I honestly thought we were out when it came to him.
6 mins, what was that all about???
But hey, we're in the final!!
Dutch_guy
05-04-2005, 19:21
the 6 minutes were probably due to the 2 ( drunk ? ) guy's that ran up on the field, can't think of any other way why they woul have added 6 minutes.
Craterus
05-04-2005, 19:43
That was about 2 mins tops. I think they added the 6 mins cos it's two big English teams and they could just keeep the suspense a while longer and those 6 mins were pretty suspenseful.
Dutch_guy
05-04-2005, 21:54
god damn 3-1 in added time .
God I really hte those Italians.
PSV had neverr been so close and alle the hard work just get's spoiled in the added time....
would have been nice to see the 2 underdogs play against each other in the finals.
TonkaToys
05-05-2005, 08:52
god damn 3-1 in added time .
God I really hte those Italians.
PSV had neverr been so close and alle the hard work just get's spoiled in the added time....
would have been nice to see the 2 underdogs play against each other in the finals.
Yeah shame not to have an Anglo-Dutch final. Still your guys will be allowed to play in next year's Championship, unlike Liverpool at this rate...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4515401.stm
Dutch_guy
05-05-2005, 10:44
yeah I know, to bad.
well better next year.
BTW it's an interresting situation I agree that 5 English teams is just to much.
However the winner should always be allowed to play the following year
God I really hate those Italians.
I feel the same way. :furious3:
I have become a fan of all old Dutch and sometimes other players who go back to Holland. I'm fan of: Cocu, Litmanen(!!!!), van Hooidonk, Bosvelt.
Cocu made 2 great goals, Milan was spoiled away again yesterday, but they always sneek their way to the next round.
AC Milan, YOU DON'T DESERVE THIS, PSV WOULD HAVE, I HATE YOU, AC MILAN!
well better next year.
I don't know, players leave mostly, the Dutch clubs all had one (and only one) year of fame, PSV now, Feyenoord won the Uefa Cup few years ago, and AJAX SHOULD HAVE been in the semi-finals of the champions league two years ago.
After one year of fame, the dutch mostly lose much players and have to wait for several years for another year of fame.
I think AJAX is going to be next one to suprise Europe.(hope so too)
King Edward
05-05-2005, 11:32
Milan Do deserve to be in the final, Ther experiance won them the games. 3 lapses of Concentration at vital times by PSV Showed that they are not Europian cup winning pedigree. You have to concentrate until the whistle goes, not stop a minuit before thinking your safe as PSV did on 3 seperate occasions over the 2 legs costing them 3 soft goals.
Milan Do deserve to be in the final, Ther experiance won them the games. 3 lapses of Concentration at vital times by PSV Showed that they are not Europian cup winning pedigree. You have to concentrate until the whistle goes, not stop a minuit before thinking your safe as PSV did on 3 seperate occasions over the 2 legs costing them 3 soft goals.
Dutch clubs can't hold a candle against clubs like these, we just don't have the money to compete. PSV should have won that match I think.
King Edward
05-05-2005, 13:35
I Agree that PSV were unlucky, but there is a reason Milan have been in nine previous European cup finals. They are a Class side, and against class sides you have to be switched on for the full game. PSV Fell asleep 3 times over the 2 legs and got punished for it 3 times. They will be back next year (I belive they just sowed up the Dutch Championship?) and hopfully their playes will have learned from this and be an even stronger force next season. (Hopfully they will buy Kezman back from us!!!!! however i think we will keep Robben!)
Milan is of an entire different lague, I thought it was kind of moving to see how well PSV performed. I was expecting slaughter (or better 'slow death' italian style) and I was given a spectacular match. PSV may become a real european player after all, despite it being a low-budget club from a small dutch town!
King Edward
05-05-2005, 13:56
Yup They play in Serie A (sorry couldent resist that. ~:) )
No you are Right about the Gulf between the sides, but the dutch have been competitive in europe through the late 80's to the late 90's so i dont believe their clubs (Well PSV Ajax and maybe Feynoord sp?) have fallen 2 far behind the English spanish and Italian sides. Bayern are the only real side in germany that match the clubs from the other 3.
PSV Had some top class talent on display last night, Mark van Bommel is on his way to Barca by the looks of it, Cocu has done it all in europe, and that Jan Vennigoor of Hesslinke looks good even if his name is a bit of a mouthfull!
you also have to remeber that the Current Europian champions are FC Porto so the Gulf in class is narrowing across the continent I believe. Many clubs have had to tighten the purse strings after the rediculous inflation in transfer fees and wages of the late ninteies and many clubs are only feeling the affect now (Esp in Italy, look at the state of Parma, Lazio and Fiorentina all were top europian sides as little as 5 years ago... and in england look at Leeds Utd, and Chelsea were in serious trouble until good sir Abramovic of the Kings Road came and saved the day!) this is giving the others a chance to catch up and level the playing field. We are also starting to see a great new generation of footballer emerge across the continet as clubs realise they cant afford these wage bills and have to bring the youth through.
You are still going to have the heavy weights (like Milan) but they are no means invincible as PSV came so close to proving last night and Liverpool did prove by beating Chelsea on Tuesday.
Al Khalifah
05-05-2005, 14:23
What a mid-week of international high calibre football. Two top draw games that show why the Champions League is the World's premier football tournament. But this weekend, I'm thinking national games will be more exciting as the leagues come to an end. My Game of this Saturday? MIDDLESBROUGH v TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
It might look like a boring mid-table English clash, but actually its so much more. The winner will almost certainly go on to play in the UEFA cup next season, which is a big deal for these two clubs. Boro are looking to strike out of being nationally famous into the international scene, where as Spurs are looking to return to a status they once took for granted.
Both clubs have come through a lot to be here, especially Boro when you consider they've had around 6-10 first team quality players injured throughout the season, yet they've struggled on with a fine crop of young English players.
A draw would set up a final day photo-finish and would also give Man City a chance to get back into it.
Dutch_guy
05-05-2005, 14:26
Milan is of an entire different lague, I thought it was kind of moving to see how well PSV performed. I was expecting slaughter (or better 'slow death' italian style) and I was given a spectacular match. PSV may become a real european player after all, despite it being a low-budget club from a small dutch town!
yes exactley, you normally can't compare the skill and experiance that PSV has to that of Milaan.
Milaan obviously had much more of those, however it happend in the match versus liverpool and Chelsea, Liverpool just wanted it a little more, and that was the case in last nights game too.
Too bad you don't get points for wanting to win... ~;)
Also Milaan has shown us that in these 2 matches, were as PSV would dominate 90 minutes, Milaan would own the 91 st .
That ''talent '' proved fatal , 3 times.
But even though Milaan went to the next round, not many teams can say the have won against them with 3-1, you can probably count those teams on one hand.
That alone can make their CL adventure complete.
Too bad though , that they gave away that one minute of the game.
Would have made a great final.
Afonso I of Portugal
05-06-2005, 00:39
Yes!!!
Sporting in the UEFA Cup Final!!!
I will be there!!! GO SPORTING!!!
~:cheers:
Dutch_guy
05-06-2005, 09:41
Argh , that was just luck ...
AZ was leading with 3-1 till the last minute added time of the 2nd added time period ( or something like that :P )
Didn't see the game myself , but judging from what I read about the game they should have been a little more concentrated in that particular minute....
It's becoming a dutch habit of losing in the last minute....
The Stranger
05-06-2005, 12:58
oh god my house was on the verge of a mental breakdown, everyone screaming. but it was a hell of a match. and even touhg they didn't reached the finals. they actualy played it that night.
i have to see if the final is going to be as exiting as this match
Yes!!!
Sporting in the UEFA Cup Final!!!
I will be there!!! GO SPORTING!!!
~:cheers:
I understand your enthousiasm, but seen the last match AZ deseved to go on, didn't they?
King Edward
05-06-2005, 15:22
Just like PSV Deserved to Beat Milan?
Cmon King Edward, think of it:
PSV is better than Milan during 180 minutes of play, and Milan is better during about 15 minutes of play, who deserves to go to the final?
Milan is good, but they didn't play good!
to Beat Milan?
They did, actually, 3-1, remember?
Just like
NO, PSV and Milan are quite a bit better than AZ and sporting, and AZ was goning to win, while PSV had to play for thirty more minutes to determine who was the best.
King Edward
05-06-2005, 16:08
Chelsea were better than Liverpool for both legs, but liverpool scored (or did they?) and Chelsea didn't. Liverpool got their tactics spot on and were able to absorbe huge amounts of Chelsea pressure, which means although Chelsea are the better footballing side, Liverpool deserved to go through.
I know PSV and Milan are better than AZ and Sporting the fact reamains you can still draw a parrallel between that CL Semi and Uefa cup semi.
They both got knocked out for the same reason. Lack of Experiance in Europe. Milan played badly PSV played well, but Milans experiance meant they were waiting when PSV made a mistake. Unfortunatly for them they made 3 and Milan Capitalised.
Likewise Sporting have a more experianced europian side than AZ. In both competitions the best side advanced to the final in those 2 ties.
The fact that PSV Beat Milan 3-1 is irellvant as Milan beat PSV 2-0 a week before.
Afonso I of Portugal
05-06-2005, 18:41
Well drisos i agree it was an epic match with a lucky goal for Sporting, however this was a semifinal round and you should analyse both matches.
In 1st leg in Lisbon, Sporting win for 2-1. Like yesterday AZ score first, but after that they just defend! Sporting play mutch better and did have some oppurtunities to increse the score to 3-1.
Yesterday AZ play better, but Sporting never quit and score 2 goals in AZ stadium. Maybe both deserve to be in the final...
Well drisos i agree it was an epic match with a lucky goal for Sporting, however this was a semifinal round and you should analyse both matches.
I guess you're right, I haven't seen the first match, if Sporting was the better team in Lissabon I think they did deserve it to go on, like King Edward sais: If you cannot be good in every minute, you don't deserve to go to the final.
Generally, I disagree with him, but if the teams both were better once I guess the one with the best overall concentration deserves to go on.
King Edward, sorry for quoting you not entirely correct, but this is generally what you mean, isn't it?
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