calculation of valour

[viermaaldomi]

Hello,I'm still wondering after all these games of MTW I have played how the valour of the 'speartroops' and 'militiatroops' is calculated.I seem to produce Saracen Infantry and Muwahid Foot Soldiers of valour 2 even when I don't have a Master Spearmaker and there isn't any province that is famous for these units.Is this also something that has disappeared in the VI expansion or is there a special valour rule for speartroops?

[Don Corleone]

Are they being created in a province with a 4+ star general?

[viermaaldomi]

I don't know,is that the reason?Is it a bug or was it meant to be that way?I can't imagine that was the way the creators wanted it to be,that's a ridiculous rule!

[Eternal Champion]

Take them out of the stack they're in and see what the valour is.

[King Bob VI]

It is probably the general of the stack, but if not check the vices and virtues of their leader. "Pride" and "Secret Pride" add 3 valour, and several other V&Vs add valour too.

[Ironside]

What version are you running? In v 1.0 is the spearmaker line and militia line bugged. It gives +1, +2, 0, 0 instead of 0,0,0,+1 in valour. That means that in version 1.0 does the spearmakers workshop(? the level 2 building) give you 2 valour troops while the spearmakers guild give you 0 valour troops. :dizzy2:

[viermaaldomi]

Thanks Ironside for making that clear,I was indeed running version 1.0.