need advice about gals

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Ok, I'm being honest here, and looking for help.
I.e. flame me and die.


Anyway, there is this girl I know. She's smart, nice, cute (in the adorable not the *sharp whistle* way), beutiful, and cool. To make it better, she is one of the few people to see me for what I really am and not to judge me on first impressions (I tend to put of the impression of an insensative prick). And ya know, I'm pretty sure she likes me, almost definatly as a friend anyway.

Now, I'm planning on asking her out next week, right, but I am at a total loß. [thats loss], I had one GF before, and that was set up by a buddy of mine and lasted a grand total of 10 minutes before I dumped her. I won't go over the whole story, so what I'm asking is, how should I go about doing this?

Thanks for the support guys, it means alot to me.
-Kaiser

[Templar Knight]

who dares wins - ask her out! ~:cheers:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

yeah but I need a battle plan. I need people to guard the flanks while I go in for the kill...oh s#it, I'm doing a military analogy again. Feck....
Anyway how would I go about asking her? Ask her to come with me to like a movie or for a bite to eat or just go head over tits and just ask her if shell go out with me?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Fire an arrow at her with a love note from you attached to it. It can't fail.

For an enhanced effect, dress up as a cherub.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Fire an arrow at her with a love note from you attached to it. It can't fail.

For an enhanced effect, dress up as a cherub.
I don't own a bow.
lol but that is creative. thanks. i may try somthing similar (but the cherub is right out)

[Templar Knight]

military philosophy and thinking can be used in every aspect of life, I use it all the time ~:)

[Templar Knight]

ask her out to the cinema, then somewhere to eat and take it from there

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Its irritating when you tell your friends to get on your left flank and someone to take up the vanguard as you get the pizza. ~D

[Templar Knight]

Its irritating when you tell your friends to get on your left flank and someone to take up the vanguard as you get the pizza. ~D

lol ~D

[Navaros]

sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and do things you're not comfortable doing.

i think that you Capo do not really need advice on what to do. you know what to do. but you're just nervous about it so you came here looking for some ways to possibly cushion your nervousness. but there are no solid ways to do that, unfortunately.

there is only one proper thing to do with your nervousness: confront it face to face, and then crush it's head with your iron fist.

"take the bull by the horns" and all that. you know the cliche. it works.

what you need to do is: just go right up to her, tell her why you like her, and say you'd very much like to go out with her ,if that's ok with her. have a specific day in mind. and have some back up days in mind too, in case she says she's busy on the first day you offer. you want a specific answer if she'll go out with you or not. don't accept any "maybes" or "i'll think about it" from her. if she says that, it just means no. so might as well be sure to get a direct "no" if that's how she feels. if she rejects all of your back up days, then ask her to name the specific day that would be convenient for her.

[Beirut]

military philosophy and thinking can be used in every aspect of life, I use it all the time ~:)


Wisdom. :bow:

Read your Sun-Tzu Grasshopper. "When in disorder - feign order." And believe me, when you're dealing with chicks, disorder is rampant!

At the same time as you are asking her out, appear interested but not anxious. Almost as if you had a second date ready in case she says no.

If she says no, smile and just say, "Ok, but I hope you don't mind if I ask you again." Turn around, walk away and don't go anywhere near her for at least a week. Next time you see her, don't ask. Just smile, say hi, and leave like you have something to do. The next time you see her, gauge her reaction to you and decide if it feels right to ask again. Don't rush it!

If she says no again, smile, say something like "Too bad, I was looking forward to it. Oh well, take care." and walk away. Smile a warm friendly "too bad for you baby 'cause I'm fabulous" smile. Again, make a point of not seeing her again for at least another week. Never make her feel cornered or stalked. On the contrary, make her feel like she's standing in the middle of a field with no one around her. Ask her fifty times if you want to, but never make her feel harassed or followed. If you act desperate, you will be killed by the cruelty of a woman's cold heart.

Remember, chicks love confident men. Not arrogant really, but confident.

Good luck Grasshopper. :bow:

*Oh ya, and if you score with my advice, you have to make her call you Beirut on your first erotic adventure. ~D

[Papewaio]

Ask her out to a movie both of you would like to go to.

Be nice and show interest in her.

Don't bring up TW first... and even if she asks about your hobbies try and show the intellectual not bloodthirsty side...

[Kaiser of Arabia]

LOL dude I'm catholic she's catholic (i think) and her dad's in the navy erotic experiences = death and hell for me
but thanks for the advice Beirut and Navaros, it means alot to me/

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Ask her out to a movie both of you would like to go to.

Be nice and show interest in her.

Don't bring up TW first... and even if she asks about your hobbies try and show the intellectual not bloodthirsty side...
that's a good idea, I gotta find out what movie she wants to go to get the cash to pay for her and feed her get a ride there but it may work.

And I wasn't planning to bring up my bloodthirsty side (though she is in my hist class so yeah. I kinda laughed through teh Soweho massacre scene in a movie yeah i got funny looks) :balloon2:
:bow:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Ok guys here's the battle plan.

On [next day she stays afterschool that i know of] afterschool at approx 1500 hours me and two other units approach said female. They will already be accompanied by her and will be guarding her flanks while I approach them for a friendly conversation. As I approach, I notice her, and through a system of inconspicuous motions order them to take the vanguard, while I approach the target female, I will approach from the front, try to get at an even level with her (she's 4'10" and I'm 5'11") without looking awkward. At that moment in time I shall begin to converse with her, while I inconspicuously order my friends to withdraw to another hallway. At that point, I shall ask her if there are any good movies that she knows of that are out/coming out, and when she says yes (if she does, if not see backup plan) sound interested in that movie and ask her if she will accompany myself to that movie on saturday or sunday. If I receive a postive response thank her and continue to converse with her, while inviting my friends back into the conversation. If she says no, go meet my friends in the hallway, after bidding her goodbye, and continue to move down to nearest pizza place to eat away my sorrows.
*Backup plan: if there are no movies, ask her if on saturday she would like to grab a bite to eat with a few of my friends (who will attempt to bring their latest catches). After that, approach her slowly and tell her the way I feel about her. If a positive response is given, rejoice with freinds later. If negative, return to pizza place to get more food.

Any flaws?

[Byzantine Prince]

Ok there's no battleplan my friend. It has to be opportunistic or else it's gonna end up forced for sure. Trust about that. Also make it really short. Be like "you wanna do something later today?" Something of the sort.

Ok I'll ask this at the risk of getting flamed to death but I don't mean badly: Is she fat also? :hide:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Ok there's no battleplan my friend. It has to be opportunistic or else it's gonna end up forced for sure. Trust about that. Also make it really short. Be like "you wanna do something later today?" Something of the sort.

Ok I'll ask this at the risk of getting flamed to death but I don't mean badly: Is she fat also? :hide:
she weighs like 80lbs dude.

[Byzantine Prince]

she weighs like 80lbs dude.
The you have nothing to fear. ~D

[Adrian II]

If she says no, smile and just say, "Ok, but I hope you don't mind if I ask you again." Turn around, walk away and don't go anywhere near her for at least a week. Next time you see her, don't ask. Just smile, say hi, and leave like you have something to do. The next time you see her, gauge her reaction to you and decide if it feels right to ask again. Don't rush it!

If she says no again, smile, say something like "Too bad, I was looking forward to it. Oh well, take care." and walk away. Smile a warm friendly "too bad for you baby 'cause I'm fabulous" smile. Again, make a point of not seeing her again for at least another week. Never make her feel cornered or stalked. On the contrary, make her feel like she's standing in the middle of a field with no one around her. Ask her fifty times if you want to, but never make her feel harassed or followed. If you act desperate, you will be killed by the cruelty of a woman's cold heart.What is this shit about warm smiles and tricks and plan B and C and what have you? Sjeesj Beirut, you sound like a girl.

Just be straight with her, Kaiser, she's gonna know who you are anyway if the two of you get close. Go somewhere fun, nothing high-brow, so you can concentrate on each other. And give your friends a night off. In love, there are no helpers, no gloves, no towels to protect you. Who said life is fair? Good luck!!
:bow:

[Beirut]

What is this shit about warm smiles and tricks and plan B and C and what have you? Sjeesj Beirut, you sound like a girl.


What's the matter with you? Wake up on the wrong side of the Netherlands this morning? Yeesh. ~;p

Believe me Kaiser, there is merit to having a plan, or at least a somewhat premeditated outlook on these matters. I haven't had that many girlfriends compared to others, but the ones I did have were all first class. Never had a bush pig or a heifer in my life. They were all either very pretty, very intelligent, or both. Hell, one was halfway through her PhD and had this luscious body... sigh I got 'er. :knight:

Affairs of the heart demand great care and introspection. Why go into a situation that risks weeks if not months of a broken heart without a plan? You wouldn't buy a new TV without a plan so why would you risk your vital organs and emotional well being without one?

The point of having things in order means you lessen the risk and heighten the gain while at least attempting to control the circumstances. There is so much in the situation that will surprise you no matter what you do, so why not be prepared. That doesn't mean don't be spontaneous. A plan is merely a common base for changes.

[JAG]

Women are evil - beware! STAY CLEAR!!!!!

Evil, evil women!!!!!

[Adrian II]

The point of having things in order means you lessen the risk and heighten the gain while at least attempting to control the circumstances.That's exactly what every girl tries to do! LOL! No offense, Beirut, you can take a few pinpricks in your ego, right? Look, we males are the romantic party, we bring the passion, we're the ones who believe in love and allow ourselves to be blinded by it, and to hell with the consequences. Once you're dead, you can avoid any risk you want...

[Adrian II]

Women are evil - beware! STAY CLEAR!!!!!

Evil, evil women!!!!!Aye, and don't we love it! ~D

[Papewaio]

The you have nothing to fear. ~D

Really?

Only if your testicales haven't descended.

Otherwise you are vulnerable.

[Albino Gorilla]

Just fricking talk to her. I'd assume you are still in school right? Talk to her about sports if she does any, is she in band or any types of school clubs? Those are good openers, after that it should really be up to you because you do not want to copy what someone else says.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

We actually do talk once and a while. We're in the same History (honors w00t) class (she has a 100, I have a 93 cause I don't do half the homework), and we're both in the debate team. She was one of the newest editions and after she kicked all aß in the lower house in the 3 house student congress ( i was the only freshmen in the upper house and I actually didnt do bad w00t), I was like "You did good, I'm proud to have you on our debate team" (yesterday the comp was last thurs) and she was happy so I was happy. anyway im rambling on right now so I'll just leave the advising in your gents capable hands.

btw shes also in Chorus and Madringals (I may join them next year just to ya know, be like, yeah. Plus I aint that bad of a singer)

[Productivity]

Ok guys here's the battle plan.

On [next day she stays afterschool that i know of] afterschool at approx 1500 hours me and two other units approach said female. They will already be accompanied by her and will be guarding her flanks while I approach them for a friendly conversation. As I approach, I notice her, and through a system of inconspicuous motions order them to take the vanguard, while I approach the target female, I will approach from the front, try to get at an even level with her (she's 4'10" and I'm 5'11") without looking awkward. At that moment in time I shall begin to converse with her, while I inconspicuously order my friends to withdraw to another hallway. At that point, I shall ask her if there are any good movies that she knows of that are out/coming out, and when she says yes (if she does, if not see backup plan) sound interested in that movie and ask her if she will accompany myself to that movie on saturday or sunday. If I receive a postive response thank her and continue to converse with her, while inviting my friends back into the conversation. If she says no, go meet my friends in the hallway, after bidding her goodbye, and continue to move down to nearest pizza place to eat away my sorrows.
*Backup plan: if there are no movies, ask her if on saturday she would like to grab a bite to eat with a few of my friends (who will attempt to bring their latest catches). After that, approach her slowly and tell her the way I feel about her. If a positive response is given, rejoice with freinds later. If negative, return to pizza place to get more food.

Any flaws?

Don't get too hung up on one (or two) plans though.

[Fragony]

Ok, I'm being honest here, and looking for help.
I.e. flame me and die.


Anyway, there is this girl I know. She's smart, nice, cute (in the adorable not the *sharp whistle* way), beutiful, and cool. To make it better, she is one of the few people to see me for what I really am and not to judge me on first impressions (I tend to put of the impression of an insensative prick). And ya know, I'm pretty sure she likes me, almost definatly as a friend anyway.

Now, I'm planning on asking her out next week, right, but I am at a total loß. [thats loss], I had one GF before, and that was set up by a buddy of mine and lasted a grand total of 10 minutes before I dumped her. I won't go over the whole story, so what I'm asking is, how should I go about doing this?

Thanks for the support guys, it means alot to me.
-Kaiser

Kapo if you are a healthy young individual you couldn't care less about smart, cute and all these things that are supposed to be important. You want to get laid, and couldn't care less if it was her sister or even her mother. Be a jerk, They love that. When you finally say something nice she will think that all that jerkiness is just a facade and that you are in fact a caring person. Ha! A certain level of cynism is critical if you want to play.

[ICantSpellDawg]

my post was a totally hate filled rant agaisnt women - so i deleted it

[King Edward]

My method was to get drunk and dribble on her shoulder all night, and that was over 4 years ago! :barrel: :kiss: :iloveyou:

Seriously though I never even asked my girlfriend out, we met at a friends party, got chatting, met again, i took her to lunch, few days later went to see a film, next week dinner, before i knew it we were spending every day together, and then after a few months we were spending every night together. Sometimes things that are ment to be just happen! :love: :sweetheart:

But I'm Just Lucky and Happy! :smug: :blush:

[King Edward]

Actually re reading my post makes me feel sick, man i got it bad............. :laugh4:

[KukriKhan]

Planning is good - it helps you examine and set priorities, and chart a path to a target. But remember to not stick to it too rigidly...."No plan survives first contact with the target". Keep the plan in mind, but be ready to wing it also.

[English assassin]

No, I am definitely of the improvise school of thought here. You need a first sentence and/or excuse to talk to her at all, and you need an idea what you want to ask her to do (stop that sniggering in the Netherlands). Thats all.

Also if I may suggest ask her to do something that's not too hard work to start with. If you are a bit nervous, and think that maybe you could be witty and amusing for say half an hour tops, and after that you are worried, then go for a coffee (there's your half hour) and a movie (blessed silence, and something to talk about after). Go for a meal and you've got to make conversation for hours.

My advice is you DON'T need your mates, not if they were anything like my mates anyway.

And no disrespect and even noting that her Dad is in the Navy but I would tone down all the military stuff. Anyway, you should be asking her what she likes to do and how she feels about XYZ (Girls love questions about how they feel about things. ) Like I say, make her do the work. If you are asking her loads of sensible open ended questions and getting nothing but yes/no answers, then its a blow out anyway. You won't be able to turn it around no matter how brilliant your views on the demise of the big gun warship are.

Oh and by the way if she says something you don't agree with in response to your brilliant questioning do try to say "Yes I hadn't quite thought of it like that but don't you think..." rather than just telling her she's dumb. Even if she is dumb. ESPECIALLY if she is dumb.

[tibilicus]

Ask her out just do it. If she says no then just move on. If someone cant except someone for what they really are then theres no point doing it. In other words just go for it and be yourself !

[AggonyKing]

well before you ask her, take some flowers, aka roses, to give her when you ask her out. Let her now were is going to be and who's paying ~D

but most important, if this girl likes you for being yourself, then be yourself, and yeah flirt a bit too.

[ah_dut]

well before you ask her, take some flowers, aka roses, to give her when you ask her out. Let her now were is going to be and who's paying ~D

but most important, if this girl likes you for being yourself, then be yourself, and yeah flirt a bit too.
ayy my friend, great plan ~D Unless you get slapped in the face straight off the bat ~;) happened to one of my friends...I nearly died of laughter

Oh well, just ask...find something you both like and just get on with it :charge:

[AggonyKing]

ayy my friend, great plan ~D Unless you get slapped in the face straight off the bat ~;) happened to one of my friends...I nearly died of laughter

Oh well, just ask...find something you both like and just get on with it :charge:
yeah but I mean this kind of flirt "beautifull dress you're wearing today" "I really like that perfume" and "Your eyes are as beutifull as roses" yadayadadada ~D

[Proletariat]

At the same time as you are asking her out, appear interested but not anxious. Almost as if you had a second date ready in case she says no.

If she says no, smile and just say, "Ok, but I hope you don't mind if I ask you again." Turn around, walk away and don't go anywhere near her for at least a week. Next time you see her, don't ask. Just smile, say hi, and leave like you have something to do. The next time you see her, gauge her reaction to you and decide if it feels right to ask again. Don't rush it!

If she says no again, smile, say something like "Too bad, I was looking forward to it. Oh well, take care." and walk away. Smile a warm friendly "too bad for you baby 'cause I'm fabulous" smile. Again, make a point of not seeing her again for at least another week. Never make her feel cornered or stalked.



I can't lie, much more idiotic approaches worked on me as a high schooler. Go with Beirut.

[Craterus]

Confidence is the best thing for "courting" lol.. go for it! :grin3: Good Luck! :laugh4:

[The Stranger]

Kapo if you are a healthy young individual you couldn't care less about smart, cute and all these things that are supposed to be important. You want to get laid, and couldn't care less if it was her sister or even her mother. Be a jerk, They love that. When you finally say something nice she will think that all that jerkiness is just a facade and that you are in fact a caring person. Ha! A certain level of cynism is critical if you want to play.

don't listen to him Capo he is just jealous because he never had a date

[The Stranger]

oke be subtle, nice and a gentlemen but not too much cuz they'll think you're a big slimeball, most of all be yourself don't do or say things that later on you can't fullfil.
also be funny and relaxed.

[The Stranger]

I can't lie, much more idiotic approaches worked on me as a high schooler. Go with Beirut.
yeah do listen to beirut that was very good info

[Adrian II]

I can't lie, much more idiotic approaches worked on me as a high schooler. Go with Beirut.Oh alright, Kaiser, go with Beirut. Follow plan A to Z and if she doesn't play along and sees right through you, just throw a tantrum and hit her over the head with your handbag or high heels. She'll spank your butt before the entire restaurant and she'll wear the pants for the rest of your relationship.

Either that, or you give her the full Kaiser and show her you don't play games. Get under her skin, make her laugh uncontrollably, works wonders.

[Steppe Merc]

I can't say anything other than good luck. My history with girls is abysmal. But you obviously have a lot more confidence than me, which is deffiently a good start.

[Scurvy]

surely the easiest and most painless way is to get hideously but happily drunk (it also helps if you get her drunk) and forget about it in the morning?

[Adrian II]

surely the easiest and most painless way is to get hideously but happily drunk (it also helps if you get her drunk) and forget about it in the morning?http://matousmileys.free.fr/alc.gif

[SwordsMaster]

GReatest laugh ever, last weekend, one of my mates was going to ask a girl out, but as he was making his way to her through a crowded pub, someone mushed him and he spilled half a pint of strong black Guiness all over her! ~:cheers: ~D

Talk about the dangers of alcohol. My mate still doesnt want to talk about it ~D

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

yeah but I mean this kind of flirt "beautifull dress you're wearing today" "I really like that perfume" and "Your eyes are as beutifull as roses" yadayadadada ~D
Don't even go down the perfume road. It brings such.....evil (but funny)....memories.......

[doc_bean]

Oh alright, Kaiser, go with Beirut. Follow plan A to Z and if she doesn't play along and sees right through you, just throw a tantrum and hit her over the head with your handbag or high heels. She'll spank your butt before the entire restaurant and she'll wear the pants for the rest of your relationship.


I think Beirut's approach is good because it is so obvious, besides we have a saying (you probably know) that roughly translates to 'he who persists wins'. I've seen it happen before when guys tried to woe a girl for nearly a year before they caved, and they're still together now, a few years alter.

But getting drunk is a much easier way though, I started my relationship that way ~:cheers:



Get under her skin.

He already said that wasn't his intention...

And Capo 4"10' ? How old is she ?

[Kaiser of Arabia]

15 a year older then me.
And Frag...


A mans life is in phases, which in turn are in phases. The era before a man turns like 24 consists of being a baby, then a small child, then a horny bastard (usually Hight Scholl Years lol) and then normal maturness. I passed the horny bastard stage about.. 2 years ago. I really couldn't care less about gettin laid (and since I turned down a perfect oppertunity, ie some chick asked me to screw her brains out, it's apperent I've moved on), I must not be healty!

[HunkinElvis]

Run! Run away before you lose your soul to her.
People don't grow old because of their genes. It's because of so much stress and depression from the suffering of their lives.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Hey, I'd rather lose my soul to her than anyone else.
Except for maybe Jesus and the Saints, but that's a different story.

[Proletariat]

Oh alright, Kaiser, go with Beirut. Follow plan A to Z and if she doesn't play along and sees right through you, just throw a tantrum and hit her over the head with your handbag or high heels. She'll spank your butt before the entire restaurant and she'll wear the pants for the rest of your relationship.

Either that, or you give her the full Kaiser and show her you don't play games. Get under her skin, make her laugh uncontrollably, works wonders.

Well, yeah. That's why I recommend Beirut's method for during high school.

:gring:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

oh and Adrian there is NO WAY I will take off my pants while in public areas. Thank you.

[English assassin]

I really couldn't care less about gettin laid (and since I turned down a perfect oppertunity, ie some chick asked me to screw her brains out, it's apperent I've moved on), I must not be healty!

Two things you never hear on a deathbed:

"I wish I'd spent more time at the office" and "I wish I slept with fewer women".

Take my career advice, young dudes. Find out where the good looking women go, and go there too. Trust me on this. Even if it means working in advertising (have you SEEN advertising girls? Wow.)

Not terribly helpful to Capo's problem right now, sorry.


I think Beirut's approach is good because it is so obvious, besides we have a saying (you probably know) that roughly translates to 'he who persists wins'

This too is true though you have to know the difference between persistance and stalking.

[Adrian II]

oh and Adrian there is NO WAY I will take off my pants while in public areas. Thank you.If she plays it right you won't even notice. ~D
But that's in case you're playing games, which you shouldn't. By the age of 17 most girls are sick and tired of their own 'hard to get' and 'what'll my friends say' games, they want the real thing. That's why they have been turning to older men through the ages.

[Ja'chyra]

15 a year older then me.



Thank god for that, i was hoping you weren't 30 or something, but I guess that rules out the get her drunk approach ~D

What???? It's a perfectly valid tactic and always works for me.

Seriously though, I never have a plan, the only advice I would give is make her laugh, if you can do that then your more than halfway there. I can still make my wife laugh after 6 years, and no Beirut not when I'm naked ~:eek: , when I can't do that anymore will be the day to call it quits.



Kaiser of Arabia
I really couldn't care less about gettin laid (and since I turned down a perfect oppertunity, ie some chick asked me to screw her brains out, it's apperent I've moved on), I must not be healty!

Ah, the innocence and idealism of the young, it won't last my friend.

[Somebody Else]

I have to agree with King Edward's approach. Nothing like getting drunk and being a bit of an ass. Worked for me!

Course, the best thing is to be devasatingly handsome, disarmingly witty, outrageously rich... and, well - you get the idea. Pity I'm not those... people laugh at me though.

[ah_dut]

15 a year older then me.
And Frag...


A mans life is in phases, which in turn are in phases. The era before a man turns like 24 consists of being a baby, then a small child, then a horny bastard (usually Hight Scholl Years lol) and then normal maturness. I passed the horny bastard stage about.. 2 years ago. I really couldn't care less about gettin laid (and since I turned down a perfect oppertunity, ie some chick asked me to screw her brains out, it's apperent I've moved on), I must not be healty!
One very serious thing...this will never happen to me unless I date a dwarf due to the fact I am 5 inches shorter than you (yes people my height do exist outta nursery Kapo) But try not to appear intimadating at all, you have virtually a foot or more in height so you'll naturally appear domineering without trying (unless you're BKS at 6 foot and weigh less than I can bench press)

One other thing dude...smile ~D ~D ~D :duel:

[Byzantine Prince]

Be pleasant, be kind, be horny. :bow:

[Paul Peru]

Just do what I did.
This will ensure that you don't get any for the next 7 years.
(Pope-ye will be happy)
PM me if you want details.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Ah, the innocence and idealism of the young, it won't last my friend.
Au Contraire, asked me a year ago what my life goal was and it would have been "get laid more than anyone else and die of syphilis". I passed that stage in my life.
BTW I'm really not an intimidating figure, unless you piss me off. I'm a natural sloucher so I appear more like 5'9 or 5'8. I'm like really nice to her (and everyone just to look good, but especially nice to her) so I don't scare her.
Anyway, I'll ramble on about this later, I feel bad for my one buddy (he got turned down BIG today. I told him to draw up a battle plan and flank her...gah!)

[The Wizard]

Certainly I am a member of the school of improvization when it comes to being a player as well.

All I need is an excuse to be talking to her (whomever she may be; it differs as time advances ~;p) and then it's playing with and manipulating whatever she says to get a good result.

But about asking her out (if you haven't done that yet -- I'm late, I realize), 'all' you need to do is gather your courage and ask her -- every girl I've talked to about the matter says they like it straight up (no, do not take that further -- bah, too late -_-). In other words, don't busy her with peripheral conversations trying to find out how she feels about you. It doesn't work -- and I've learned by experience ~;).

Hell even my friend Chris managed to get his hot girlfriend that way! ~D

And when improvizing (if that's your style), be quick, witty and naughty. Old-fashioned etiquette and chivalry exercized at the right moment can help seriously as well.

If you really need to the point, visual help -- visit the love doctor. I mean go watch Hitch with Will Smith... approved by yours truly as playalistic™! ~;p

Not that I learned anything new, of course ~;)



~Wiz

[Don Corleone]

Course, the best thing is to be devasatingly handsome, disarmingly witty, outrageously rich... and, well - you get the idea. Pity I'm not those... people laugh at me though.


~D That reminds me of Saturday Night Live when Tom Brady hosted. They did a skit with Tom & one of the guys who looks pretty dorky. The dork says "Gee, Sally, you look nice today"... whammo, she's on the phone to HR. Tom walks up and says "Wow, Sally, your rack looks really perky today" and grabs them. She grins and says "Thanks Tom".....

"In conclusion, to avoid a sexual harrassment suit 1) Be good looking 2) Don't be bad looking 3) be sexy".

[Kaiser of Arabia]

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Wtf????

[Steppe Merc]

I saw that SNL...

Kaiser, it was about office relationships. The guy who llooked like a dork and just said "Hi" got in trouble for sexual harrasment. The hunky guy who was acting like an ass got... well, ass.

[ah_dut]

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Wtf????
Exactly what I think of most girls ~;)

Good to see you slouch my friend ~D but not for your back anyways...

One more thing, girls love everything being about them...talk about how she feels on abso flippin lutely everything...they love it ~D Remember, you don't exist, she does ~;) so when you start talking, it's what she thinks...your opinion is in this case totally irrelevant :dizzy2: :duel:

[SwordsMaster]

Exactly what I think of most girls ~;)

Good to see you slouch my friend ~D but not for your back anyways...

One more thing, girls love everything being about them...talk about how she feels on abso flippin lutely everything...they love it ~D Remember, you don't exist, she does ~;) so when you start talking, it's what she thinks...your opinion is in this case totally irrelevant :dizzy2: :duel:


Hmm... that might explain why my relationships rarely go on for longer than a weekend... :embarassed:

[Byzantine Prince]

OK, also try not to be scary. I did that once and I was taken down really badly. She was basically hiding behind her friend as if I was going to hurt her. So glad that's over.

[Adrian II]

One more thing, girls love everything being about them...talk about how she feels on abso flippin lutely everything...they love it ~DNot my experience. Girls/women want to be drawn into a guy's universe, walk about in it, play a role in it. Provided you're not boring, of course...

[ah_dut]

Not my experience. Girls/women want to be drawn into a guy's universe, walk about in it, play a role in it. Provided you're not boring, of course...
Yes, that is true to a limited extent but they have got to be the centre of the universe ~;)

[Kaiser of Arabia]

ok got it.
Now what's good WORDING for the actual question part of it...

[Mouzafphaerre]

ok got it.
Now what's good WORDING for the actual question part of it...
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Hey chick! Wanna good time? ~:joker:
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[Craterus]

ok got it.
Now what's good WORDING for the actual question part of it...

Anything with confidence.
Make sure you don't mumble when you ask her. ~D

[Adrian II]

ok got it.
Now what's good WORDING for the actual question part of it...I'm not the Pope, but I can get you to Heaven? Nah, that's sacrilegious. Bad, AdrianII.:whip:

Seriously, just tell her the truth. 'Hey ..., I think you're the best thing that ever happened to our debating team. I'd like to spend time with you. Shall we go to movie X, restaurant Y, concert Z one of these days? My treat.'

That is the truth, isn't it, Kaiser?

[Byzantine Prince]

"Let's go have sex?" NO!
"Would you like to do something?" Maybe!
"Hey, would you like to go out with me sometime?" Almost there.

Ok now you guys continue.

[Craterus]

I've been wondering, is movie X any good, I was going to see it last weekend, but then I settled for other plans.

I think Adrian has the right idea, apart from the debating team part, unless you are actually part of one. ~:cheers:

[Uesugi Kenshin]

He mentioned above that he and her were on the debate team and that she did very well.

I think confidence is probably one of the most important things.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

'Hey ..., I think you're one of the best girls that I ever met. I'd like to spend time with you. Shall we go to movie X, restaurant Y, concert Z one of these days? My treat.'
That good?

[Paul Peru]

Just do what I did.
This will ensure that you don't get any for the next 7 years.
(Pope-ye will be happy)
PM me if you want details.
OK, so I tried to think about what I did to make sure I was totally out of luck in the girlie-department until my early twenties.
Of course I just did what seemed like a good idea at the time; you know the kind of stuff with which the road to hell is paved ~:)

However, there are some general rules that I'm farily certain I followed.

avoid eye-contact
don't smile
think bad things about yourself
be suspicious
self-irony is out, but frank, gloomy self-depreciation is priceless
know it's hopeless

That should do it.

[Byzantine Prince]

'Hey ..., I think you're one of the best girls that I ever met. I'd like to spend time with you. Shall we go to movie X, restaurant Y, concert Z one of these days? My treat.'
That good?
Lose the one of these days, don't say my treat (that's implied).
"I had a great time debating with you/debating along side you, would you like to go see a movie later today?"
Or variants of this.

[Somebody Else]

So tempting to use the old "mass debate" joke...

Anyway.

Not necessarily a good idea to act too much out of character - a) may seem insincere, b) it'll be a while before you can drop the act - if ever.

Just be relaxed, relaxed confidence is a very good thing.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Just one suggestion that has not been brought up, the one I give myself before everything of import. Don't **** up!

Trust me if you avoid this one major pitfall you will be set.

Honesty and being who you really are is a good idea, if you act differently it will eventually catch up to you.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

victory!

[Mouzafphaerre]

victory!
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:medievalcheers:
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[Craterus]

Congrats!

[Adrian II]

victory!Yay! :charge:

[Byzantine Prince]

victory!
~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:grouphug: ~:grouphug: ~:grouphug:

How did you do it?!?!?

[Krusader]

Congratulations!! :balloon2:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

And it seems as if she stood me up!
GAH!
She probably lost my number (she was gonna call me to finalize things), cause she's a nice girl and I did write my number on a dollar (she gave it to me to write it on lol, she prob spent it). So I'll talk to her tommorow and let you guys know.
Thanks for the support.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Well I talked to her, well, er, she approached me. She apoligized and said she was grounded from the phone amongst other things because she failed a math test. I usually wouldn't beleive it, but knowing her family, they're real hardasses and, well, I'm not surprised. I'll figure somthing out.

[GoreBag]

What's the battle plan?

[ICantSpellDawg]

the thing about girls is:
it pays to excercise, get hobbies that you really like and then avoid being interested in any women exclusivly

get respect for yourself and ask girls out to simple coffee dates
when they say no (even brad pitt gets turned down) just shrug it off

you dont need ladies for the one thing they are good for until you find one that you respect who respects you

thats why god gave men hands and lubricant
not for that "building crap" and "typing stuff"

[Redleg]

Well I talked to her, well, er, she approached me. She apoligized and said she was grounded from the phone amongst other things because she failed a math test. I usually wouldn't beleive it, but knowing her family, they're real hardasses and, well, I'm not surprised. I'll figure somthing out.


Well since she approached you with the apology - that normally is a good sign that they did not blow you off on purpose.

Keep on trying there - if you dont first succeed - try again begging on your knees if necessary. (actually don't it makes you seem pathecic. Well in my case it has worked - and for over 13 years now.)

[Byzantine Prince]

thats why god gave men hands and lubricant
not for that "building crap" and "typing stuff"
:bow: ~:cheers: :bow:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

victory!
You got more guts than I do. Btw, :help:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

we might go bowling this afternoon, and if not maybe hang out or minigolf this weekend. w00t.

[Husar]

Congratulations man.

I´m still trying to get rid of that Paul Peru-syndrome. ~;)
So far I asked 3 girls out, first was horrible, she wanted to think about it, and I got sick, the flu or something...
Second said clearly NO, think her friend may have been into me and I misunderstood :dizzy2:
Third is a longer story, in about half a year I got her to hate and fear me, but it seems she is a bad character anyway.
:help:

[The Wizard]

Well I talked to her, well, er, she approached me. She apoligized and said she was grounded from the phone amongst other things because she failed a math test. I usually wouldn't beleive it, but knowing her family, they're real hardasses and, well, I'm not surprised. I'll figure somthing out.

She approached you, eh? That's good -- means she really wanted to go out with you and is sorry it didn't happen. You should just follow through; strike up a conversation about the date, and how she gonna get to it.



~Wiz