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OK, guys, here's my first campaign in months:
Expert
start at 1530
to win: quoquer 40 regions, eliminate all enemy clans(exept R&R)
I take the Takeda clan.
They have Aki and Kai.
I start with:
1000 Koku
2 yari sam.
4 cav. archers
1 yari cav.
1 emissary
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The situation after 0 years of play:
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http://img229.echo.cx/img229/294/takeda0jaarwest8nc.png
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http://img190.echo.cx/img190/9823/takeda0jaaroost8qz.png
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viermaaldomi
05-04-2005, 14:57
he is called an emissary.I also had troubles remembering that word when I started playing Medieval instead of the dutch shogun version ~:) .Afgezant is a lot easier to remember,right Drisos? ~;)
Summer 1530
1000 Koku
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My plan is to make an alliance with the uesugi and conquer Izu in the first few turns.
First, I set the taxes to 110%.
I start building a mine in Aki.
I train 60 sam. archers in Kai.
I want to keep things quiet in Aki until I got at least one fighting dojo there, so I don't attack the rebels.
In the east, I suspect Hojo is going to attack Uesugi in Musashi, so I don't need to worry about them. The rebels in Shinano and the Imagawa in Suruga don't have big armies, so I don't pay attention to them either. I decide to attack Izu, I go with my Daimyo, 120 cav. archers and 60 yari cav.
Autumn 1530
200 Koku left
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**************Attack on Izu*************
I outnumber them, it's 191 to 60.
Because of my cav. archers, I want to attack with good weather, but light rain was the best I could get.
I kept my Daimyo and yari cav. behind the archers, and sent the archers to the flanks. His 60 men appeared to be yari sam., an easy prey for my archers.
After several minutes of 'Hit and Run' tactiks, they have 30 men left and they are marching at the end of the map, on his side, so he doesn't have to flee very long. I know that when I win, the rest of his men die, because there is nowhere to go. (kai, suruga and sagami are possessed by clans) So I don't take great risks. At a certain moment, he charges in at one of my units of archers, so I let them retreat, but not too fast, so that they will keep chasing me. Meanwhile I braught in my yari cav., and I place them behind his unit. When he started the charge on my archers, I let my yari cav. attack. As soon as my cav. charged in at the yari's I let the archers also charge in. Being attacked from two sides and outnumbered, the enemy flees right away. In the heat of the fight 5 of his men escape, but not his general, who's killed.
I won it: 0 losses 55 kills.
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Because I just conquered Izu, I set the tax back to 100%.
I don't have much money, so I only train 60 ashis in Kai.
I retreat most of my troops to Kai, because Kai is more important and Hojo hasn't attcked Uesugi.
Afgezant is a lot easier to remember,right Drisos? ~;)
Jazeker! Thanks for the word, it just didn't come to mind. ~:)
Winter 1531
We had a good season, but still not much money.
359 Koku
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There didn't happen much in this turn.
My emissary has arrived in Kozuke, Uesugi's HQ, I let him ask the lord for an alliance.
The hojo army is growing, I need more men too, I train 60 yari sam. in Kai.
That's about it, on to the next season.
Spring 1531
159 Koku left
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The Uesugi lord has accepted my alliance, I send my emissary to Shinano to spy and see if I should attack it.
Hojo has trained men again and has a pretty large army now, he has become a real thread. I hope he get's in war with Uesugi, when he's weakened once, he can forget ever possessing sagami again.
The Imagawa lord asked me for an alliance, and I accepted it. It can never hurt to have friends, and I want to concentrate on Shinano and Sagami now.
I train 60 ashi's in Kai again, hehe, don't have money left after that.
I looked at the map when I was in the throneroom, I'm the only one who has conquered a region already, going well. :)
I haven't played further, I will do now, C yall later!
Thoros of Myr
05-04-2005, 23:27
Looks like your off to a good start. :bow:
I dusted off my STW and started a campaign too. ~:cheers:
Nice to hear I got someone to playing STW again!
I've played another year, here it comes:
Summer 1531
59 Koku left
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The mine in Aki is finished now, it'll start paying off in two seasons.
I decide to attack the rebels in Bingo, which are 60 men. I attack with 60 cav. archers and 60 yari sam, both honour 1.
I don't have money for new units or buildings.
I don't know who I will attack in the east, my heart sais: Hojo, but if I take a more strategic look, I should attack the Imagawa. I decide to send my emissary to the hojo to spy on them. If their men aren't too strong, Sagami will be my first great target.
I forgot to tell about my Daimyo earlier, it is Takeda Nobutora, 3 star, 5 wins, 0 losses.
The ashi's I trained earlier go to Izu, and the Izu army goes to Kai, because Kai is far more important.
Autumn 1531
Still 59 Koku
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*************attack on bingo*************
120 vs. 60
Takeda vs. R&R
Bingo - No rain
Bingo has two great forests on both sides of the map, so I alreay know in which he is. My cav. archers are in front of my yari's, and when I get close, I see his men are 60 ahi's, simple enemy. When he sees my army, he sudden decides to run away, of course I let my cav. chase, but they weren't fast enough.
I won: 0 - 0.
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I still don't have money for anything.
I have 2 regions in the west now, but only 180 men, while I can see now that the rebels have way more men, it's gonna' be hard to maintain those two regions. I got two bad messages this season, Uesugi is the richest clan, and Hojo has built a big castle. In the east, army's are growing, but noone is fighting, I still don't know what to do there.
Winter 1532
1040 Koku, we had a normal season
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Wow, I'm being attacked in Aki, it's 120 Rebels vs. my 60 cav. archers (H1 because of a 2star general)
**************Defence of Aki*****************
They attack with no rain, I'm relieved, now my 'hit-and-run' tactik will be effective. I see not much mountains to position my troops, but I don't know his army, so I do want a hill at least. I set my cav. at a hill at the border, which isn't very good, because I cannot run when he has Yari sam charging in. I start the battle, after long waiting, I see he has 60 ashi's and 60 archers.
His units aren't being used very strategic, he doesn't spread them out and the ashi's are walking between the archers. In this circumstances, my archers kill a lot of them, about 15 ashi's and 10 archers go down. I decide not to run, but to charge the ashi's(who mostly flee soon) and when his ashi's flee, his archers will be an easy prey for my cav. His ashi's seem to have high honour and kill many more of my men than I expected, but my tactik did work, they fled. Because I was so close to the border, I had several minutes to chase them, and I killed very much men of him, including his general.
I win: 116 killed, 32 lost. My men gained +1 honour, he only got 4 ashi's left.
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The hojo emissary comes to me, and I make an alliance with him too, because I still don't know who're gonna' be my enemies in the east.
The rebels outnumber me in an assault on Bingo, and I decide not to defend, but to retreat to Aki, so I can easily defend Aki from them. In the throneroom, I see the Shimazu have conquered one region now too, but they(and I) are the only ones.
Yeah, I got Koku again:
A yari dojo in Aki.
A big castle in Kai.
60 Yari sam in Kai.
I forgot my emissary for a while, I now send it into Sagami, next turn I'll see what Hojo has.
spring 1532
90 Koku left
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The rebel armies in Iwami, Suo and Bingo aren't very big, once I complete the dojo in Aki I'll conquer the regions soon. Aki has a good army, so I will easily obtain that region til the dojo is finished. Back to the east:
I don't have money left again.
In Izu are now 120 ashi's, in Kai I have a pretty good army.
Hojo has:
archer dojo
spear dojo
Golden palace(!)
tranquil garden
His army is about: 240 ashi's, 120 sam archers, A daimyo and about 180 units of yari sam.
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I'm not exactly sure, but it was almost this, not too strong, but not so weak either.
viermaaldomi
05-05-2005, 10:53
I believe it is called a tranquil garden :bow:
BTW, I forgot to say it's good to see your technical problems are solved. :balloon2:
Nice reports of your campaign too.
Nice reports of your campaign too.
Thank you! :bow:
Most people stopped reporting after a few years, but after a few years, it all gets more complicated and difficult, and more intresting, so I intend to go on for a while.
Thanks for the translation too, those words are not in a dictionary.
Summer 1532
still 90 Koku
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The Yari's dojo in Aki is finished, so I can get expanding in the west.
Izu's loyalty has improved, but my Koku didn't: taxes to 110%.
There is still no war between two clans, everybody is just trying to steal regioins from the rebels.
I send my emissary to Suruga to check Imagawa's army, but conquering suruga wouldn't be of a to great use. (Suruga's income < 200 koku.)
Sagami would be great to conquer, Hojo is even building improved lands there.
Autumn 1532
90 koku
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The shimazu sent an emissary, I now have 4 allies.
I checked the map, Shimazu and I are still the only ones that have conquered a R&R region, but all the armies are rapidly growing.
My emissary is now in Suruga, next turn, I can check out his army.
I still don't know who to attack in the east, I hope hojo is so foolish to attack me or uesugi.
Winter 1533
Had a good season: 1596 Koku
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The big castle in Kai is ready, but I'm not gonna' spend money on a new building yet again.
I train 60 ashi's in Aki, I want to attack the rebels there next turn.
Imagawa's army is 50% archers, a good prey for yari cav. but his daimyo is 4star and all his men have high honour, so his army is pretty good.
I start building a mine in Kai.
I train 60 sam. archers in Kai.
My emissary now goes to shinano, to check again what the rebels have, I might want to attack Shinano.
Forgot something again, my heirs:
Takeda Shingen(!!!!!!) 11 years
takeda nobushige 4 years.
Spring 1533
696 Koku left
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I'm gonna' attack the rebels in the west, but don't have much units to maintain loyalty: taxes back to 100%
I train 60 ashi's again in Aki.
I attack Suo from Aki:
Takeda vs. R&R
88 vs. 4
My general is ***, 28 cav. archers, 60 ashi's.
My emissary is in Shinano, but I send it on to Sagami. I could easily beat Shinano's army, but I'm afraid that all the rebel regions next to Shinano would attack me back right away, they would probably outnumber me, so I concentrate on Hojo again.
I train 60 yari cav. in Kai.
I get 60 ashi's from Izu back to Kai, because I'm going to attack soon, I think.
viermaaldomi
05-05-2005, 13:42
Een erfgenaam is called a heir I think. :bow:
Good luck with your campaign!
Een erfgenaam is called a heir I think. :bow:
Good luck with your campaign!
Thanks a lot!
The campaign is going pretty well, I played another year, I'll post it some later!
Summer 1533
221 Koku
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The rebels(with their 4-men army) gave up Suo, I now have 2 regions again in the West.
I train 60 yari sam in Aki to maintain loyalty.
In the east, all the armies are growing, if I attack one, the other outnumbers me, so I decide to wait for them to make the first move.
I send my cav. archers into Izu, because I'm afraid Imagawa will attack there, and 120 ashi's wouldn't be enough to repel them.
Autumn 1533
21 Koku
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The west seems quiet now, the loyalty isn't too high, but there are no new rebels. The Imagawa are now the best technical clan, so they are a real threat. I changed my tactik: I'm going to attack the Imagawa in Suruga, next turn, I think. I first need some Koku again, luckily it's already autumn.
Winter 1534
1371 koku, a nice payoff.
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The mine is ready in Kai, my Koku is going better already, it's gonna' be much next year.
Last turn, the uesugi used their troops in Musashi to attack Shimosa, and they won, but now the Hojo attacked Musashi. Luckily, the uesugi sent a big army back to defend and Hojo gave up. I took the side of uesugi on the diplomatic front. Meanwhile, Imagawa attacked Shinano and won, his army in Suruga is now tiny.
I build a archer dojo in Aki.
I train 60 yari sam. in Aki.
Next turn I'll attack Suruga, so I train 60 sam. archers in Kai.
I send my emissary to Totomi, I want to conquer that region too, so Imagawa has no power left.
Spring 1534
351 koku
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Imagawa gave up Suruga, and I destroyed his border forts, I now have 751 Koku. I set the taxes to 75%, because:
Rebels have appeared at Suo, with a larger army than I have there. I send all my troops from Aki to Suo in order to defend and hold it, meanwhile I train 60 yari sam. in Aki to repel any R&R attack from Bingo.
My attack on the Imagawa wasn't good for my diplomatic status, both Uesugi and Shimazu chose his side, I have no allies left! I send my emissary to Hojo for an alliance.
I train 60 sam. archers in Kai for the war with Imagawa. I leave only 60 ashi's at Izu, because Imagawa's troops in Shinano will probably attack me in Kai or Suruga. When he does that, I hope rebels conquer Shinano, because then he has only Totomi(hard to defend) left. Next turn will be pretty exiting.
Summer 1534
271 Koku
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R&R attacked me at Aki too, but he gave up in both Aki and Suo, and my archer dojo is ready in Aki. I start building a famous spear dojo in Kai.
The Imagawa have not attacked me, I keep waiting.
Autumn 1534
271 koku
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Hojo didn't want an alliance with me, so I try again. Imagawa tried to make peace between us, but I refused.
The west is pacified, the taxes go back to 100%.
I forgot to click on the dojo, I do now start building it.
Winter 1535
688 koku
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I've got money again, and I need an larger army,so:
60 sam archers in Kai
60 ashi's in Aki, I want to conquer a third region in the west for a bit more money.
Hojo resufes again, and instead, I send my emissary to Imagawa. I am now planning to attack the Hojo and keep peace with all the rest.
Spring 1535
288 Koku left
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The famous dojo is ready in Kai. I immediately train 60 yari sam. I want to expand, because things aren't going very good right now, I need more money.(I need to qonquer sagami)
In the west, I send 180 ashi's to qonquer Iwami, R&R will give up, but I do need men to maintain loyalty.
I am going to attack Hojo soon, I hope the campaign gets more exciting by then.
Togakure
05-05-2005, 18:59
I have been enjoying this Drisos ~:). Nice to see someone take the time to do it. More, more more! ~D
btw: I am available for STW MP drills if you are--check your pm. MSN is down where I am so I can't check there at the moment.
Thoros of Myr
05-06-2005, 09:16
Nice report. Please continue... :bow:
tool Dude
05-06-2005, 14:17
Oits Drisos!
Glad to hear that u've got ur Shogun back under control. Btw, I was actually busy playin my Takeda campaign too and it was the best ever campaign I played ever!! I've been thinking of creating a story bout my Take Campaign too man...but guess what? I accidently deleted tha saved game cause I had to reinstall due to my comp problem!! WAAAAAAA!! WAAAAAAA!!
Seriously, I felt like...:furious3:...why???...:embarassed:...oh why?
Btw Drisos, keep it up, I hope ur campaign is interesting as mine ~D . Be exactly like tha mountain monkey Shingen!!
Thanks for the compliments guys, I was a bit afraid it would get boring because of my campaign style(slow-qonquering) and because I don't type books like toga can ( :bow: !).
Glad to hear you like it, I'll now post the next year.
Tool dude, how annying for you, wasn't there any way of copying the saved games to the new install of shogun?
Summer 1535
still 88 koku
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I was very suprised when a hojo emissary suddenly asked me for an alliance, while I thought it was just spying on me. I took the alliance and concentrated on Imagawa again, but I was still planning to qonquer Sagami.
In the throneroom I saw everybody has some new regions now, so I must hurry, so I get stronger too. I have Iwami now in the west and have three regions there, but I don't know if they are of great use. (low koku, no way to attack a clan) I'm quite sure to attack Totomi next turn, it'll knock out all Imagawa training abilities, and it isn't hard to qonquer. (totomi has no mountains) I move cav. troops from Kai to Suruga, including my Daimyo, he'll lead the attack.
Shingen is now 15, in one year I'll have the best general out there!
Autumn 1535
88 koku
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R&R totally outnumbered me in an assault on Iwami, he had a large army left in Izumo. I whitdrew my troops, but attacked the abandoned region of Nagano with them the same turn. I move my troops from Suo to Aki except 60 men, because he has quite an army in Bingo and Iwami now, and I cannot afford to loose Aki.
I attack totomi: 251 vs. 120
3*** daimyo with 120 yari cav. h1 and 120 cav. archers h1.
I abandon Suruga and Izu, Kai is my best region, and the hojo have a very large army.
Winter 1536
1107 Koku, yes!
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Two battles this turn, check it out:
************second defence of Aki***********
The rebels suddely decide to attack me in Aki, the region in had to hold. They outnembered me, but I couldn't give up this one. I had a 3* general, 120 yari sam. and 88 cav. archers. R&R had an army of 364 men, they attacked in the rain, a smart move.
I position my men on the same place as in the first battle for Aki, on a mountain at the border. The archers were in the front, and the yari's right behind them, a simple position. When the rebels came, I saw they didn't have a very good army, 184 ashi's including his 0* general, 60 yari sam. and 60 archers. When they came I just stayed at the same position and fired at his army, only at his yari sam, which were the most dangerous. I waited very long with my yari charge down the mountain, because my archers still had ammo. I charged in at one unit of ashi's and his yari unit, while my archers now fired at his archers. His ashi's immediately fled, but were still crushed by my sams. When the ashi's were gone, the back of his yari unit lay open, so I attacked them from behind with 28 of my cav. His other ashi's were too slow to intercept and his Yari unit was crushed from two sides. Now their strongest unit was gone and the other units had lost several men already, his cowardish army fled away, while they were at my border, a long way home. I stopped and spread out all my yari's and let my cav. chase the rest of his men.
I won this one: killed 162, lost 39
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*************My asssault on totomi**************
I attack with Takeda nobutora, 3*
I have 120 yari cav. and 120 cav. archers, an all cav. army. I was plannig to use 'hit-and-run' against his 120 yari sam.(I had my emissary there, so I knew his army) so I attacked with good weather.
I saw his army right when the battle started, 120 sam arch. 120 yari sam. I didn't make a formation yet, my cav. would be fast enough to intercept anything, so that wouldn't be a problem. His foolish general, an archer, sent his both units of yari to my army, while his archers stayed behind. I sent my 120 yari cav to the side, and later to his archers, they would easily win. I sent my daimyo to the flank of his yari's in case they did reach my archers, I could attack from behind with a strong unit. His yari's were too slow and totally shot with my archer tactik. One of the units withdrew to his archers when my yari's were charging in, but they were too late, the archers couldn't escape and were slaughtered. They yari assault took a while, and I was getting nervous. Cav are disastrous in retreating, so the yari's could crush me, but I found the solution: My Daimyo! I had takeda charging in at the back of his unit when he almost reached my yari's. Of course he turned around, but my cav. now was ready with the archers, I sent one unit of cav to the other side of his yari's. The yari's already had lost many men by my archers, but they could handle my heavy cav, I lost one and the Yari cav. had to be quick. Luckily, they were, and his yari's were totally destroyed. Meanwhile my 120 archers had shot his yari to an amount of 20 soldiers, so they fled, to be chased and killed all. No single sam of him survived.
I won: killed 239, lost 23, both my yari cav units gained +1 honour.
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The conquering of Totomi gave me even more money: I now had 1907 Koku, quite a bit.
I build a swordsmith building in Kai.
I train 60 more yari cav in Kai, to attack more weak Imagawa archers in Shinano.
I train 60 sam archers in totomi, with +1 honour, they'll help me defend if Imagawa wants totomi back.
I train 60 sam archers in Aki.
I set the taxes to 90%, the Nagano people weren't happy with my army.
Spring 1536
332 Koku (!)
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I destroy the archers dojo in totomi for more money, I need more sams.
I train 60 yari sam. in Kai.
I train 60 archers in Aki, R&R won't attack again, they don't have much left!
I set the taxes to 75%, Nagano still is under 100% loyalty.
viermaaldomi
05-06-2005, 18:56
I'm pretty sure a sword forging building is a swordsmith.I'm not completely sure though,smith looks too much like smid for me to be sure.Unfortunately,I can't play the game now to verify,but I would say swordsmith is the word.
Thanks AGAIN '4 X domi'
without you no one would understand my story! ~D
I have won all the battles (at Expert) easily against the AI, I need a way to make it harder! ~D
The hardest campaign I ever had was playing the Hojo vs. the mongols, maybe that one would be a real challenge at Expert. ~:cool:
Foreign Devil
05-06-2005, 20:18
Good read! I actually recently started another Shogun campaign too, and the game is still as awesome as ever. I've been away from these boards for a while too... good to be back ~:)
Hello foreign devil, I definitely agree on STW being a great game!
Never seen you around before, welcome back!
Summer 1536
32 Koku
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I was right, the Imagawa attacked Totomi from Shinano. The Imagawa brought a big army and his daimyo, so I could totally destoy the Imagawa clan in this battle, but he outnumbered me, and it was going to be hard.
*************Defence of totomi*************
My daimyo, Nobutora, leads the defence. He's 3***.
It's 229 of me vs. 371 of the Imagawa.
My army: 98 yari cav. h2, 60 archers h2 and 60 ashi's h1.
He attacked with light rain, which wasn't smart, he had lots of archers.
I position my army(actually only my archers) at a tiny hill in the middle of totomi. My ashi's are to the left of my archers, and can attack troops from behind if they go for my archers. 60 yari cav are to the right, and will try to attack from behind or attack his archers. My daimyo and 38 yari cav. will do the same on the left of my archers.
After a long wait, I see his army coming, lots of archers, and 60 yari sam. His ashi's are far behind. When he comes in range, I shoot at his yari's, who are coming right to my archers. I go to their flank with my ashi's, but they decide to leave the archers and go for my ashi's. Meanwhile, his daimyo is to my right flank, so I send my 38 yari cav to stop them. My 60 yari cav. charge in at his archers and kill many, no enemy yari's around, there stuck on the left side. With my daimyo, I attack the yari unit from behind, but too late, my ashi's flee and his yari's face my hamamoto now. Then I see the solution, I charge in from behind with my archers, who were still firing at his archers. At the right flank, there was a big chaos. My yari cav. was fighting against enemy archers and his hamamoto. It went pretty well, but his hamamoto was very strong and didn't lose many men. On the left, his yari's are fleeing(what's left of them is fleeing), and my ashi's are back too, but now his ashi's arrived too and attacked mine. Attacked by my hamamoto, my ashi's and my archers, they soon flee. At that moment all his archers flee too. His daimyo keeps fighting for a while, but then he flees too, he escapes.
I won: killed 322, lost 118, I've earned lots of honour with this battle.
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Imagawa is still alive, but has only Hida and shinano now, and his army isn't bigger than 240 in total. Imagawa is no threat anymore, and Oda's army in Mikawa isn't too big either. Hojo's army is big, but I'm his only ally, and he's in war with uesugi, so he won't attack me.
I've got a new heir this turn, in 16 years he'll be a general.
In the west I send Suo and Aki troops into Iwami, R&R will give up, he has only about 60 men. I send 60 archers from Aki to totomi, I have ports in both.
My emissary is in Shinano, I think I am going to attack that one too.
Autumn 1536
32 Koku, not enough
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I've got Iwami now too and can abandon Suo. That's good, because Shimazu are in Buzen and I might get in war with him. I don't know yet.
I send my Daimyo back to Kai.
Not much happened this turn . . .
Winter 1537
1087 Koku- it was a normal season
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Imagawa sent me an emissary, but I refuse his offer. I want to qonquer Shinano.
The swordsmith in Kai is finished, so my men are even better now.
I start building a famous archer dojo in Kai.
I train archer cav. in Kai, they did great in the attack on totomi, I want to use them against Shinano too.
I train 60 archers in Aki, for in Nagano, so Shimazu doesn't attack me.
I checked the alliances menu: Hojo and Takeda vs. Oda, Imagawa, Uesugi and Shimazu. Not so good, but there all to weak to hurt me.
I set my taxes to 90%, loyalty is going fine.
Spring 1537
12 Koku (!)
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I don't have money again, so I need a few more good regions. I decide to attack the small Oda army in Mikawa. I send my emissary there and start moving troops from Kai to totomi.
Shingen will come next turn I think, but I'm not training anything. . .
not much happened . . .
Hello folks,
Sorry I'm so late with the new reports, but here are 2 more years:
enjoy! ~:)
Summer 1537
12 koku
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My famous archers dojo is now ready in Kai, Kai is now a pretty good training region.
I am preparing the attack on Mikawa, I think I'll use especially cav. archers, because he only has Yari units there.
Shinghen in now 16 years old, but I didn't train a unit this turn, so he's not a general yet.
The west is pretty quiet, Shimazu isn't doing anything, and I and the rebels don't either, I won't train anything there unless they get stronger or I have too much money.
In the East Uesugi and Hojo are still training men. Their armies are now way bigger than mine in Kai, so I don't hope they attack me.
Spring 1537
12 Koku
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When I get more money again, I'll train men in Kai. This is because Imagawa is still there in Shinano and Oda might have large armies in Owari and Mino, so it will be hard defending the former Imagawa regions.
My planning is first to conquer Mikawa, then improve loyalty and increase my armies, and then attack Shinano.
The Hojo still haven't attacked Musashi, while Uesugi is only getting stronger this way, because he can expand to the east.
In the west there's still no danger, the R&R don't plan to attack me anymore, I think.
Winter 1538
947 Koku, we had a normal season
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I start building a tea house in Kai, so I can soon spy on the enemy clans without them noticing it and meanwhile reducing the loyalty there.
I will attack Mikawa next turn, I now moved my last attacking troops to Totomi.
I have money now, but I'll spend it only in the east, where my most important regions are.
I train 60 sam. archers in Kai, to defend Kai if necessary while my troops attack Mikawa.
Spring 1538
397 Koku(!)
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YEAH! I got shingen now, and so I got the best general of japan at this moment. He's an archer, and will stay in Kai to beat any foolish Uesugi army that dares attacking me. He already won 32 battles, but I'll try to improve that much more. (maybe to 64?)
I train 60 yari cav. in Kai, cav are doing well in this campaign, so I just train some more.
I set the taxes up to 100%, loyalty is improving in Totomi. (and Suruga)
My assault on the Oda clan in Mikawa:
My hamamoto, h4, 11 heavy cav, three star(***)
180 cav archers, h1
60 yari ashi's h1.
Oda just changed his army in Mikawa, I don't know what it's like now, so it'll be hard. I can see it are 206 men and the general is 1-star(*).
Sorry people, but I don't have the time to post more on the campaign today.
The next seasons include four battles(fun-to-read! ~:) :book: ~:) )and are going to take a lot of time. I think friday in the after noon I'll post that year, and I think I can play and post another year then too.
enjoy! ~:cheers:
EDIT: Toga, I do have time for some practice, C U at MSN! ~:)
hello people,
I have an awful lot of time today, so I expect to post another 2 years, maybe I'll include sreenies of the campaign map, too.
enjoy it!
Summer 1538
22 Koku :(
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The tea house is now ready in Kai, I can now train Shinobi's.
As you knew, I attacked the Oda in Mikawa:
**********Attack on Mikawa**************
It's 251 from me to 161 from the Oda, I attack with good weather, because I have so many archers.
I don't know if Mikawa is really going to increase my amount of Koku, but it's at least a start, plus: I can make the Oda less powerful by defeating him here.
Mikawa has a river, I'm afraid it is going to be hard. When the battle started, his troops were right behind the river, so I sent my cav. archers right away to shoot them before they would take a better position. I came to late to hit anyone, but I saw that his army existed from 60 ashi's and 101 yari sams. that included his general. Because he had no archers, it was going to be easy, you'll see later what tactiks I used.
I managed to get 120 cav. archers in position to fire at anyone of his soldiers who put one step further to the bridge. I put my ashi's right behind the river, so if they would cross, I would be able to stop them from attacking my cav. archers. Then I started sending my daimyo across the river, and his troops of course charged in. Then I quickly withdrew them behind the river, and shot at him with my archers. He didn't know what to do and going on like this I shot many of his men. I just kept doing this, and in a while, my archers had no ammunition left, but he had only 16 yari sams left. At the moment I noticed I had no ammunition left, I suddenly sent my cav. archers over the river. His yari's immediately fled and I killed all of them without losing a man.
I won: killed 152(9 ashi's had escaped by fleeing from the battlefield), lost 0.
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*************The defence of totomi***************
Imagawa attacked me in totomi, with all his troops he had left in shinano, 106 men. I have only 60 archers, and I don't think I wil win, because totomi is so hard to defend. At the time he attacked, I only had a port in totomi, and it doesn't pay off much with every season either. While he left shinano alone, it would certainly be taken over by the rebels, and Shinano has good cav. and a payoff every season lots higher than totomi, so I don't understand why he attacked me, but it's important to win this one. If I lose, I lose contact between Mikawa(my daimyo!) and Suruga, and my Daimyo could get killed by the Oda, if they attack.
I position my archers on one of the only 'hills' mikawa has, but I'm not quite confident I will win. His army existed out of very few yari sams, few ashi's, but a lot of archers. I fired at his ashi', and some later at his archers. I shot only about 5 of his men, and he outnumbered me in the final charge. His ashi's are faster, so hit-and-run isn't possible either. I decided just to rush down the hill when he started climbing it. It went well, but not good enough to kill so much men. In the end, his fast ashi's killed much of my routing troops.
I lost: killed 28, lost 43. A bad result, and a very bad moment in the campaign.
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I destroy everything in Mikawa to keep Oda from having it in case they conquer Mikawa back. I'll use the money to train more sams, Totomi has proven that I don't have enough.
I set the taxes to 75% again, I am going to attack Totomi from Mikawa, and I don't want the Oda to be reinforced by loyalistic rebels.
I train 60 yari ashi's in Kai, and I start buiding a famous tea house there.
Autumn 1538
97 Koku
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**************The second attack on totomi*************
I decided to attack totomi again, so my daimyo is safe again. I move all units, except the ashi's, from Mikawa, and the 17 archers I had left after the failed defence.
My army:
11 heavy cav. (my daimyo)888
180 cav. archers h1
The Imagawa decide to give up totomi, but meanwhile the R&R have conquered Shinano and Imagawa's troops are forced to kill themselves. The Imagawa still have some regions in the north, but they aren't powerful anymore now.
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What I was afraid for, happened, the Oda attacked Mikawa, so it's good I have totomi again, my daimyo is now safe.
****************The defence of Mikawa************
I have only 60 ashi's, so I'm afraid I don't stand a single chance against his quite large army. I position my men on a mountain at the border, so at least a few of them will survive if they flee. When I see his army coming, his daimyo is on the front, and I decide to attack him, killing him might be the only way to defeat them. My ashi's kill 10 of his heavy cav when they charge in at him down the hill, but Oda himself survives by withdrawing between his yari's. Against the hamamoto, I had already lost many men, and now my unit is being flanked and outnumbered at all sides. My ashi's flee, but only one survives.
I lost: killed 24, lost 59. A poor result, but the armies totally didn't match.
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I send my emissary to bribe the R&R general in Shinano, it will cost me only 55 Koku, and I would get 22 h1 ashi's with a two-star general**. My daimyo is now four-star and provides its army with +2honour, a quite nice bonus.
Winter 1539
1019 Koku, YES!
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The famous tea house in Kai is now ready, I now can train good spies, but I don't think time and money allow me to create them soon. :(
My emissary failed in Shinano, probably because he has only h0, I let him try again.
The west is still quite, luckily, because I need all the money in the east.
I train 60 cav. archers in Kai.
I start building a palacein Kai, costs a lot, but it has a great payoff, in my opinion.
Spring 1539
144 Koku(!)
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I attack Mikawa again, now things are more quiet in Suruga, Totomi and Shinano. Oda has retreated troops from Mikawa again, so it won't be hard defeating him once again.
***************The second attack on Mikawa*************
I took only my cav to Mikawa for the attack:
11 heavy cav. (my daimyo) ****
180 cav archers, h2.
This time, he has his army far away, on a mountain. When I come close, he marches to the border, probably because he saw my army and thought he couldn't win. I move my archers forward quickly and fire at his troops from the back, keeping my hamamoto near to flank if he turns around. He doesn't turn around, instead he routs, when he thinks he close enough to the border to escape safely. But he wasn't close enough, I charged in rapidly with my cav. archers, and I kill some more of his yari's.
I finally got all the former Imagawa regions.
I won: killed 38, lost 0. I gained +1 honour with one of my cav. archers.
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I train 60 yari ashi's in Kai again.
I think it'll be hard to hold Mikawa, Oda is very stong in Owari and Mino, but I'm determined to keep it.
Some ninja killed my emissary in Shinano before it could try bribing the R&R again, I suspect it was either the Oda or the Uesugi who sent it.
OK, fellaz,
To make the situation easier to understand for you, I'd like to post some campaign map screenies.
I'll try posting them about the beginning situation first, please look back at my first post.
Toga once explained me how too, lets hope it works.
~:)
Yeah! ~:cool:
My screenies are now working, thanks R'as al ghul!
Please check my first post, poeple!
I'll soon post the next year and 2 more recent screenies!
~:)
I'll post the next year soon and also two more recent screenies!
sorry for the long wait, but I've been quite busy with school stuff, so I think it'll be next wednesday I post that. :embarassed:
Wednesday was busy too, so it took me two more days, but better late then never. ~:)
Because of my very late response I kind of forgot about the battles. Luckily I wrote some notes, but still the reports won't be that great this year, SORRY!
Summer 1539
44 Koku (no money again :( )
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Uesugi and hojo have enormous armies, I hope they'll soon fight each other. I am going to check that with shinobi's soon, I think.
I'm in a bad position, Totomi has low loyalty, but I need my men to defend Mikawa from the Oda clan. So I don't know where to place them, I need more of them.
I think I will attack Buzen soon, because Shimazu's army isn't growing and I'd like to gain the Imagawa regions that lay behind Buzen. They'll provide me with more Koku. Before I do this, I need some more sam. in Aki, so I can defend against R&R adn attack Shimazu
Autumn 1539
44 Koku!
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I've got very small armies in Totomi, suruga and Izu now, because they can't be attacked by my enemies anyway.(hojo could attack Izu, but I trust him, hopefully he keeps loyal to me)
Suddenly, there are Rebels in Mikawa, while I had taxes at 75%. I don't like it, maybe there an enemy shinobi in there, but first I need to hold on to Mikawa. Losing it again would be very annoying, luckily I have a good army:
Daimyo ****
60 ashi's h3.
60 cav archer h1
120 cav archers h2
Mikawa is easy to defend, but I need to do something against the loyalty. Everytime I have money, I spend it on my armies, not on shinobi's.
Because I had to play my tourniment match today, I can't finish the year.
I made the screenies, I think I'll post them and the next two seasons tomorrow.
hope ya still like it. When I finish, I can finally actually play it again. ~:)
Winter 1540
Good season - 1257 Koku. YES!
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The palace has been finished in Kai, so my men have higher morale now. I think the next step will be a drill dojo.
*************The second defence of Mikawa**************
I have to defend Mikawa from the Rebels. The weather is good, and I have lots of cav archers. His army will probably be 50% ashigaru, so it's gonna be easy.
I position my archers at a small distance behind the bridge, and wait till they cross it. My archers kill very much of his low-armour ashigaru and they flee everytime they cross the bridge and I charge in with my ashi's.
They keep trying and loose very much men, and I don't loose any. I keep shooting until I'm out of ammo. Then I sent my cav over the bridge and chased his men that immediately fled when they saw me coming. I was much faster and killed almost all his men.
I win: 390 kills, 2 losses. In total I gained 3 honour. This battle gave me more then it took me.
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I knew Oda and the Rebels were constantly at war, but now R&R suddely invaded Mino with a large army. The Oda tried fighting, but they lost and got trapped in their own castle. This is great news, Mino is an important region and Oda will be much weaker now, because of this I can easily attack Owari soon.
I start building a drill dojo in Kai, so my men will become even better.
I train 60 cav archers in Kai, they're doing great in the campaign so far.
Spring 1540
382 Koku(!)
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The loyalty is pretty good now in all my regions, so I can start thinking about Shinano maybe? Shinano would be great to train cav. and it is a very strategic region. I can attack several regions from there and it is easy to defend.
Oda attacked R&R in Mino again, from Owari and from his sieged castle. He loses again!! Yes, oda's power has been broken now! I can concentrate on other clans again, like the Shimazu.
I train 60 sam archers in Kai. They would be good to position in Shinano for it's defence when I have conquered it.
2 Recent screenies:
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The situation after 10 years of play:
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http://img261.echo.cx/img261/8871/takeda10jaarwest7iq.jpg
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http://img261.echo.cx/img261/9992/takeda10jaaroost4ro.jpg
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I'm glad I finally finished this year. I can finally play on now. I will keep reporting. Enjoy! ~:)
p_nutter
05-29-2005, 09:45
Thanks for posting this campain thread Drisos.
That's a lot of troops in Musashi and Sagami! Uesugi in Musashi could be hard to deal with.
But you have Takeda Shingen now. Will we see him in action soon?
I want to see some fights! :charge: :duel:
Thanks for posting this campain thread Drisos.
Thank you for reading it and liking it! :bow:
That's a lot of troops in Musashi and Sagami! Uesugi in Musashi could be hard to deal with.
Yes, those are very big armies for in this year in the campaign. They are in war with each other luckily. And I hope they weaken eachother so Shingen can take those regions. That way, I'll be become the richest and strongest clan. ~:)
But you have Takeda Shingen now. Will we see him in action soon?
I want to see some fights!
Have you read the entire thread? THere have been various (small) battles before. But I hope too that Shingen will be in a big battle soon too.
I'm quite busy with school stuff. And most of my spare time I play MP, are at tge .org or practice for the tournament. So the reports aren't going very soon, but I'll keep them coming.
I got to playing another year this weekend, but I kind of messed up my notes. It could take some days before I post it.
amazon77
06-04-2005, 15:18
Grats drisos, very good story!
It's about 4 years since i last played Shogun :embarassed: but i think it can easily rival MTW and RTW, not to mention it made a much bigger impact when it was released than the 2 other titles. I do plan on getting back to it though, it's just my Ph.D taking so much of my free time.
I do remember however that the green guys island (shimazu)isn't too tough to take while the imagawa have 2 provinces quite rich there. It's also a "take and forget" area as u won't have any borders with anyone ~:) . You could also then invade the entirely ronin island which is just south of ur western lands.
A question: how come the red guys haven't attacked you yet?
My strat when playing the Takeda was to retreat all my armies from the west and use it along with the eastern army to take the east Imagava lands. I think it works better.
Anyway, keep posting, great stuff.
Grats drisos, very good story!
Thanks ~:)
A question: how come the red guys haven't attacked you yet?
I don't know if you're farmiliar with WE, but this was an 'start-in-1530' campaign. In that campaign, the Mori clan isn't there, the rebels have all those lands. Check the first post for screenies of the starting position.
Anyway, keep posting, great stuff.
OK, I will! ~:)
Holiday has finally started.
Two more years coming up today. ~:)
enjoy! :bow:
Summer 1540
82 Koku :(
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I have decided to invade shinano. There is no single rebel unit so there will be no fight. I send:
60 sam archers w1h2 with a three star gen.
120 ashi w1h1
plus lots of used units, with only a few soldiers left
I think I'll need to defend Shinano from the Uesugi, but I don't know how much he has in Kozuke, so I'm not sure. In case he has a small garrison, I think I'll knock out his training ability by defeating him in Kozuke. Any way, shinano will provide me of more money, which I need.
Because I sent my armies to Shinano, Totomi and Suruga are now empty, but that's no problem, as no one can attack me there and loyalty is good enough.
Takeda family:
Daimyo:
Takeda Nobutora = 47 years old 4-star gen.
Heirs:
Takeda Shingen = 19 years old 6-star gen.
Takeda Nobushige = 12 years old, not a gen yet
Takeda Nobukado = 4 years old, not a gen yet
Autumn 1540
still 82 Koku
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Shinano won't be hard to keep. The Rebel regions; Mino, Hida, Etchu and Echigo have small armies or not an army at all, so they won't dare attacking me.
Uesugi has a small army in Kozuke, and I think I'll attack him soon.
Uesugi finally did it: they invaded Sagami! My ally the Hojo clan luckily wo and killed pretty much. Unfortunately Uesugi still has a big army and Musashi won't be easy to invade. Plus, if I invade it and win, there will be nothing left for the Hojo then to attack me. I'd better concentrate on Kozuke first. I hope Uesugi weakens himself more by losing in Sagami more often.
Loyalty has been improving so I set the taxes back up to 90%.
Allies:
Hojo + Takeda
vs.
Oda + Shimazu + Imagawa + Uesugi
Winter 1541
1298 Koku :)
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I train 60 Yari sam in Aki. I might want to attack the Rebels there sometime.
Unfortunately, the Oda had much Koku and have trained an army again in Owari. It is quite big and I send some troops from Shinano to mikawa in order to defend it in case Oda wants the region back.
The drill dojo is now finished in Kai. I don't know what will be the next building to improve my power there.
I start building a castle in Shinano. I want to have a cav dojo there soon.
I train 60 yari sam in Kai, and send some more troops to Shinano, because I'm now quite sure I'll attack Kozuke soon. It will hopefully break the Uesugi clan.
Spring 1541
648 Koku (!) I'll spend it on more men
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Shimazu still has a very small army in Buzen, and I want to expand in the west. I move several units from Aki and Iwami to Nagato in order to attack him soon.
I train 60 cav archers in Kai, who will probably help attacking Kozuke soon.
I checked the map in the throneroom for the number of regions of each clan:
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Takeda Clan = 10 regions
Hojo Clan = 1 region
Takeda/Hojo alliance = 11 regions
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Shimazu Clan = 11 regions
Uesugi Clan = 5 regions
Oda Clan = 2 regions
Imagawa Clan = 1 region
Shimazu/Uesugi/Oda/Imagawa alliance = 19 regions
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The Mori Clan does not exist.
The R&R have 30 regions, Japan's great clans have 30 together too.
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I have conquered 8 regions since the beginning of my campaign, and am one the clans with the greatest territory. I should especially concentrate on defeating the Shimazu now, but also keep an eye on the Uesugi clan.
Summer 1541
273 Koku :(
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The castle in Shinano is now finished. When I get more Koku I will use it to build a big castle and a cav dojo.
I train 69 more Yari sam in Kai, in order to have troops to defend Kai and Shinano when I attack Kozuke. I also drop taxes to 75% again, because I'll nearly abandon Shinano because of the attack on Kozuke.
The Important assault from shinano to Uesugi-HQ Kozuke:
60 sam archers h2w1, a *** gen.
60 cav archers h0w1
60 yari sam h2w1
60 yari sam h2
60 yari cav h1
60 yari cav h1w1
39 yari cav h3
Next turn I'll invade Buzen from nagato.
Autumn 1541
73 Koku :( Luckily I get more soon
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When the R&R saw me moving to Nagato for the attack on buzen, they decided to attack Iwami. It's 180 of me and 409 of them, because I'm outnumbered, I give up.
I decide to wait a while with the attack on buzen and first to re-conquer Iwami.
I attack Iwami again:
120 Sam archers
180 Yari sam
120 Yari ashigaru
420 men in total, a *** gen.
I leave very few men in Aki, Suo and Nagato in order to wipe the R&R out of Iwami again.
************Attack on kozuke****************
It's good weather, I have 399 men and must face 313 men of the Uesugi clan.
I first form my army into a group. Archers at the front, inf behind them and cav to the flanks. I see Uesugi Tomooki has taken position in front of a small forest at the northeast corner of Kozuke, At the top of a small hill.
In order to avoid attacking a hill, I move my grouped army to the northwest, and am going to flank his entire army.
He does not respond to my movement until it's too late. I have taken position at the border behind him, on higher ground. Maybe his gen. is a bit sleepy today? he moves his inf line to a forest to my right flank, on even lower ground. He moves his Daimyo and archers to me. The archers are an easy prey for my yari cav and I kill almost all of them with my men. I start shooting his inf with my achers line and attack his hamamoto from all sides with my yari inf.
His Daimyo soon gets killed and I shoot many of his inf. The rest of his inf routs right away when I move in my inf line. I block the way to the border with my cav archers, shoot them with my sam archers, stop them in the woods with my inf, and attack from behind with my yari cav. In kill about all of them. Only 13 of them survive.
I win: Killed 300, lost 80. One of my units gained +1 honour.
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After this battle, I have a legendary swordsman. I can and will soon build a sword dojo. Then I finally have some proper shock troops.
I decide to Burn down everything in Kozuke, because I already have Aki, Kai and Shinano and can use some money. I have 1523 Koku after doing this, so I can improve Kai and train more men again.
In battle I killed Uesugi Tomooki. Uesugi Tomodasa took over, the clan remains alive. After the battle I see the other Uesugi regions, which only have weak armies. Only Musashi is a strong region, so when I and Hojo defeat that army, it's over for the Uesugi clan, since I destroyed his training ability.
With the new Koku, I build a Bhuddist temple. I train 60 yari cav in Kai, and train 60 yari sam in Aki, which will defend Aki during the attack on Iwami.
I retreat my troops in Kozuke to Shinano, out of fear for a big attack from Musashi. I cannot afford to loose Kai and there's no reason to stay in Kozuke. (I destroyed all buildings, there are only 13 soldiers trapped and I will reconquer it soon anyway).
Winter 1542
1796 Koku :) Had a good season.
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In order to be able to attack Buzen soon I have to wipe out the rebels of Iwami first.
*************Attack on Iwami****************
In case I want to attack the Shimazu soon, I should not loose this battle and especially not loose much men.
For some reason, 60 yari sams stayed behind in Aki, and I attacked with 360 in stead of 300. The enemy had 300 men, I attacked in good weather. My army:
120 yari sam h1 a *** gen
120 ashigaru h1
120 sam archers h1
I put my army in a skirmish formation, my archers in the front, my yari sams behind that and my ashi's to the sides in order to let them attack him in the flank when the melee starts. After a walk, I move to the side a bit and start firing at his yari sams. He does not move and I shot quite some of his men.
After he had a few dozens of men, he charges in. I move in my yari sams and stop him before he hits my archers. I flank with the ashi's and shoot his gen with my archers, because he had stayed behind. His yari sams quickly rout but I don't kill many either. I charge at his gen unit with all my melee men and keep firing. His gen dies in battle surprisingly fast and his last units rout. I kill only few when chasing with my ashi's, but the victory is there.
I win, 137 kills, 65 losses. Only one of my units get honour +1.
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The western part of my territory is now safe again. I killed the high-rank general of the R&R and defeated a part of his army. He shall not attack me soon and I will concentrate on the Shimazu again. I move my troops back to Nagato and will attack him next turn.
Ha! The Uesugi attack Takeda Shingen in Kai from Musashi. This is the most important battle in the campaign so far, because I cannot afford to loose Kai. If I win and destroy his army, Uesugi's won't have much left and his power will be broken. He has no region to train troops and if I beat him he'll have no army either. In case I do beat him very hard, I think I'll go for Musashi soon too.
**************Defence of Kai**********************
The Uesugi bring more troops then I have for the defence. It's 780 against 845, my ******-gen vs. his **-gen. He attacks with good weather, which is good, because I have a lot of archers.
I form three groups, one archer line, one inf line and my two units of cav archers. I put my army to the south-east of Kai, where there is a quite big hill. He needs to climb a mountain and walk a lot so he'll be tired when he attacks. I set my archer line at the rin of the hill, with the inf line little behind. My cav archers are more southwards, where I shall try to shoot some shock troops using hit-and-run tactiks.
When I see his army appearing at the top of the mountain he climbed, still out of shooting range of my main archer line, I move in my 120 cav archers and start shooting his inf. He sends all his melee inf after my cav archers and I shoot many of them with hit-and-run, while slowly moving towards my inf archers. I shoot 2 units of WM and one unit of ashigaru before my achers start firing. His archers are at much lower ground and I shoot much of them. After some time, I press forward with my inf line and start firing at his melee inf. He routs even before I charge in and only my cav archers can kill some men while chasing. It is a long road and the fast cav kill quite much, under which his gen.
I win, 639 kills, 109 losses. Four of my units gain +1 honour.
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Yes! I won with many kills! The Uesugi clan is now quite weak and will soon be wiped out. I gained much honour and last not many men, so it's not bad for me either.
Meanwhile, the R&R conquer Kozuke with a small army. I am happy with that, because they aren't very dangerous and the Uesugi don't get it back anymore.
I start building a great castle in shinano, so I can build a cav dojo there afterwards. I need a archer or spear dojo too, but that'll come later.
I train 60 yari sams in Kai, they will probably be in the attack on Musashi.
I train a great castle in Aki too, so I can start building some strong dojo's there too.
I train 60 archers in Aki, to defend me regions from the R&R while attacking Buzen.
Spring 1542
296 Koku (!) :(
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Uesugi reconquered Kozuke, but that's not a problem, because it has no dojo's at all. It only makes his army in Musashi even smaller.
I train 60 more yari sam in Aki. I will attack Buzen next turn. The R&R won't prevent me from it this time.
Hi readers,
That's it for now. Another update will come friday.
It were two exciting years to play. I hope you enjoy reading.
:bow:
Summer 1543
96 Koku :(
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My invasion from Nagato into Buzen is there. I attack with an army of 344 men, with a ***-gen. It's not a very important battle in the campaign, but Buzen will provide me of more Koku each year.
I only hope R&R don't attack me again this time.
The Oda clan's army has become very strong again in Owari, so I send men into Mikawa from Shinano.
I now have quite big and strong armies in Mikawa and Kai. Shinano and Izu are weak but luckily also not very important.
Autumn 1542
96 Koku :(
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Shimazu gives up the battle in Buzen, so I another region belongs to the Takeda Clan. I destroy the border watchtowers and gain 100 Koku, I now have 196 Koku. I keep the +20% fields there are in Buzen, I hoped for them, Buzen will give me quite a bit Koku every year now.
I train 60 ashigarus in Aki, they'll go to Buzen too, because the Shimazu have a rather large army in Chikuezen and I will probably attack Buzen next turn. I hope I can kill many of his men when he does that, and I hope to keep Buzen.
I get more Koku next turn luckily, I need more sam. in the Eastern part of the Takeda lands.
My armies in the east:
Mikawa = 551 ****
Kai = 540 ******
Shinano = 296 - *
Izu = 120 *
Winter 1543
1476 Koku :) I had a good season, yes!
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My big castle in Aki is ready. I don't think I soon have the money for more buildings there, but I will eventually.
My big castle in Shinano is ready. I think I'll start building there next season, if I have a reasonable amount of Koku by then.
My Buddist temple in Kai is ready! I can now train the powerfull Warrior Monks.
I train my first unit of 60 WM in Kai.
I start building a sword dojo in Kai. I already have WM but No-Dachi are cheaper and not much weaker.
An Oda emissary is in Kai. I think he might try to make peace between the Oda Clan and the Takeda Clan again. I would say yes at the moment. I'm busy with Shimazu in the West and with Uesugi in the east.
I am being quite defensive at the moment, especially because I don't have very big armies and don't know where to attack now yet. Defending might weaken other clans and give me a chance for further expansion.
Spring 1543
476 Koku (!)
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The Shimazu don't seem to be attacking me in Buzen. I guess the Imagawa Clan has a quite large army in it's last region, Hizen. So Shimazu is scared to be attacked in the back. Well, I don't want to be attacked by Imagawa too, so I think I'll go for Izumo and Bingo when I want to expand in the west again.
I have now 5 regions in the west:
Buzen = 464 ***
Iwami = 240 ***
Aki = 120 ***
I don't have armies in Nagato and Suo anymore, and loyalty is good. Aki is the most important region in the West, because it has training abilities.
I train 60 sam archers in Kai. My army is growing again.
I train 60 more yari ashigaru's in Aki, so my armies there are also becoming rather big.
That's it for today.
I've had more exciting years, but still. STW is always fun.
More coming up next week.
Enjoy ~:cheers:
This is an exciting campaign! ~D Thanks for telling the campaign story. I have to find my STW and reinstall it!!! :charge:
~:) Good to hear this got you intrested again. Enjoy playing! ~;)
People, I have recently become member of the 47Ronin and will also be working on the website project. I think I won't have time often for reporting because I also want to stay active in STW MP.
I will try to go on, though.
In two projects atm and don't have any time for my campaign sadly.
maybe at the end of the summer I will continue. the savegame is still there. ~:)
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I finished the project and an update of this will follow today. ~:)
edit: I played but... game got stuck! :dizzy2: two incredible victories but I didn't save the game and it got stuck... :furious3: :furious3: ~:eek: :dizzy2:
try again today.. ~:handball: If I loose those battles this time I'll freak out :freak:
Summer 1543
76 Koku :(
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***********Defence of Buzen***************
The Shimazu daimyo has decided to attack me in Buzen, and he brings a tough army:
My 466 men with a ***-Gen vs. his 691 men with his ***-Daimyo.
Losing Buzen isn't a disaster, but loosing much men is. If I loose Buzen and my army I''m afraid he might invade into Nagato and further too.
I position my 180 sam archers in a line at a hill in the right back of Buzen. My 180 YS are in a line close behind the archers. My two ashigaru units are at the flanks, and my cav archer unit is hidden in a forest between my position and his deploy area. He attack in light rain sadly, good weather would be better because of my archers and their position. If I want to win against his superior infantry, I should first shoot a part of it.
The first unit I see approaching is a Yari cavalry one. Close behind it are 60 yari ashigaru. I move my cav archers into range and start firing his ashigaru, hoping to rout the unit. They don't rout, but this way I manage to shoot a dozen or two before his main army gets close to mine. When it does, I target his yari samurai and wait patiently for them to come closer. When he comes close to my archers, I move down my yari samurai and ashigaru. I keep firing at his yari's during the battle. Despite the height advantage and my ranged fire the enemy is winning the melee battle. My cav archers run out of ammo and I charge his archers with it, it fight well and kills much but is outnumbered. Meanwhile I try to flank his infantry with the ashigaru units, but they rout before engagement, and then my yari samurai rout too. I try to rally them while I keep firing at his infantry, but they keep advancing and my archers rout too. Luckily they don't loose much men.
I loose here. Killed 190, Lost 186. Two of my units gain +1 honour, but I'd rather have won this battle.
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Having lost Buzen, Shimazu has a large army ready to attack Nagato... I don't have money to train more troops in the West, so I lower Aki and Iwami defences. With some extra units and Nagato as battlefield I should be able to keep the Shimazu off Kanto.
Bad news for our Lord, the Hojo have betrayed us. They are now in alliance with Uesugi and have abandoned our alliance. They'll launch a huge assault on Kai next turn I'm sure. To support Takeda Shingen in this important battle extra forces are sent from Shinano and Izu, which enlarge the Kai army to 960 men.
Takeda clan needs one or two new allies, I think. Facing the Rebels, the Shimazu clan, the Oda clan, the Uesugi clan and the Hojo clan at the same time would be hard.
Autumn 1543
76 Koku :(
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**************Second defence of Kai*****************
The Hojo are treacherous dogs! First they fight on our side against the Uesugi clan, but now they are allied with them and invading their former friends lands. They lauch a massive attack:
On the defending side, Takeda Shingen with 960 Takeda Samurai.
On the attacking side, Hojo Ujiyasu and an Uesugi general with a combined army existing from 1938 Men.
The enemy's have chose light rain for their attack. I have a load of archers so would've approved good weather, but this isn't that bad.
To avoid being attacked from two sides right away, I choose a hill at the right back of Kai, in stead of the bigger hill in the center of Kai. I form an archer line at the front of my army, existing from 7 units of archers, under which Takeda Shingen. Behind that I form a line of infantry, existing from 360 Yari Samurai and 60 Warrior Monks. My two units of cavalry archers are positioned at the hill to in the center of Kai, and I hope to shoot some Hojo units with them.
When the battle starts, I notice Uesugi is close to my main army, and Hojo is close to the range of my cav archers. The Uesugi keep lurking around and I manage to shoot quite some Hojo samurai. They send forward some archers, but I just move a bit back and keep firing. Hojo Ujiyasu seems confused and sends the half of his army round the hill, far away from me. The other half lurks down the hill and gets shot. Some time later, having shot dozens of those Hojo's, I send them back to my main army, because Uesugi is now entering my archer range. I wait till several units are in range and then start shooting them one by one. The first few units loose dozens of men and rout soon. Meanwhile I have my cav archers at his flank firing at him too. He looses numerous Samurai before his first archer units get in range to fire at Takeda Shingen. They shoot a few of his men, but more and more of his units are totally shot down and rout away. When my archers are running out of ammunition I charge the cavalry archers at his destoyed army. Some yari samurai have rallied and attack them, but they rout before engagement. I keep chasing with the cavalry archers, and few of his men escape. Meanwhile my archers and my infantry are still waiting for the bigger Hojo army to arrive. But they seem frightened when they see what happened to the Uesugi army, and after I shoot a few of them, they move back out of range. I didn't think he was really giving up so I didn't chase him. I did move my cavalry archers closer and kept firing, with some success. They kept moving back and they routed when close to the border, by that time my cavalry archers didn't have ammo left and I sadly had them positioned too far away to kill any.
I won. 650 Head taken. 15 Men lost. Four of my units gain +1 Honour.
An incredible result! The Uesugi army is totally destoyed and the Hojo didn't have any positive result either. Takeda Shingen is invincable.
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I raise taxes to 90%. Shinano loyalty is fine now, and money isn't. I also receive a sad message, the Oda clan has the highest loyalty in Japan. Mine is fine too though.
Shinano indeed launched an attack on Nagato right away. Luckily my reserves from Iwami scared them, they gave up.
I send back very small armies to Shinano and Izu. The danger in the East is away now.
If I loose those battles this time I'll freak out.
Ha! it went even better this time.~:)
next update wedenesday probably.
Winter 1544
1081 Koku. :) this season was +25%.
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The Sword Dojo is ready in Kai. Though I don't intend to use No-Dachi very much, I'm happy with that. I don't have the money for it now, but the next building in Kai will be a bigger castle.
The rebels attacked me again in Iwami after I moved some troops to nagato. I am heavily outnumbered so give up the battle. I decide to leave Nagato and Suo and move my troops to the east, where they're more useful. I will defend Aki because the port and mine deliver me so much money. In the east with some more troops I can conquer sagami, musashi and kozuke, which will be the first step in total victory, because they'll give me so much money. I hope to get in an alliance with Shimazu too.
***************Third defence of Kai*****************
Meanwhile Kai is attacked again in the east. Hojo brings a ****-Gen and together with the Uesugi they bring 1202 men, this could be a hard battle.
Takeda Shingen has 840 Samurais on his side in this battle. He must win again, or the Takeda clan will probably be destroyed.
I position my main army exactly at the same place as the last time they attacked Kai, at the hill in the right back of Kai. I form an archer line and a infantry line, and position my Cavalry archers closer to the Hojo deploy area.
I fire dozens of Hojo samurai down, keeping my cavalry out of his archers range. When they get up the hill me cavalry archers are on, I move them back to my main army. Meanwhile the Uesugi have decided not to wait for the Hojo army and move into my archers range. But they are just lurking around, and many are shot. However I try to hold some ammunition for the strong Hojo army which is arriving. The Uesugi army already half-shot half-routing when I started firing at the Hojo's. They lost many but still had a big army moving to me rapidly. When they got close I moved down my infantry line, and started the melee battle. Meanwhile a few yari units of the Uesugi came close to my archers and I was forced to melee with them. Luckily they won and I used the archers with no ammo left to chase them, just to keep them routing. I had height advantage and slowly destroyed the Hojo army. After a long battle they started routing and I blocked the way to the border. Almost all of them got killed and my cavalry archers also got some in the chase.
I win. 1002 Heads taken. 183 men lost. 4 of my units gain +1 honour.
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The same time Hojo and Uesugi invaded Kai again, Hojo sent an army into Izu. I am heavily outnumbered and retreat. I position a small army in Suruga and get ready for an attack on the Hojo. I now have money for it, first lets train some units:
In Kai: 120 Yari Samurai, 60 Samurai Archers and 60 Yari Cavalry.
I also drop tax to 75% in the hope rebellion will occur in Izu.
To the west of my territory, the Oda are getting more and more strong. They just reqoncuered Mino.
Spring 1544
881 Koku
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***************Fourth defence of Kai*****************
With those two huge victories in the near past, the Uesugi clan and the Hojo clan are nearly destroyed. But they don't give it up, they attack me once again in Kai. Again it's an important battle, but not very hard.
Takeda Shingen with 720 Samurais against the Hojo and the Uesugi with 828 men.
They attack in good weather, and I hope that I don't need to use as much infantry as last time. I want them to survive so I can reconquer Izu and maybe conquer Sagami soon. I use the same position and formation as the last two battles in Kai.
This time the Uesugi general acts stupid and attacks my unit of Cavalry archers. That's stupid because my unit is lots stronger and I loose 13 men only in the battle. He lost his gen and a unit. The battle ends not very exciting, Hojo and Uesugi move in and out my archers range until the time limit is reached. I shoot a few, but not much.
I win. 93 men shot down - 13 lost. one unit gains honour +1.
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In the west I only have Aki left and soon my men will go aboard a ship to the east.
I'm afraid Hojo will attack again next turn, because he didn't loose many men in this battle. Because of that I'll wait with attacking myself.
I wish I was a better STW player..
I wish I was a better STW player..
Well feel free to ask anything on stw gameplay in this forum ~:)
reporting another year today... but after that some 47Ronin business... maybe I'll continue next week
Summer 1544
506 Koku :)
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Good news on the diplomatic side: The Shimazu lord sent an emissary and I have a new ally. The western regions are more secure again now.
Takeda Nobushige is now 16 years old and appears to have a Yari Cavalry unit. He stays in Kai, with some troops which I move in from Suruga and Shinano.
I send Shingen to attack Sagami, with 240 Samurai Archers and 240 Yari Samurai on his side, an important battle.
Meanwhile I send some men from Aki to Totomi, to reinforce my eastern lands.
Autumn 1544
206 Koku - I'll get more soon.
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****************Fifth Defence of Kai****************
The Hojo and Uesugi forces form a new army, for one last attempt to break the Takeda Clan's power. Nobushige defends Kai with 474 Men, and he has to defeat 642 Men.
I don't have a very big army this time, and it'll be hard. I group two units of Cavalry Archers and position them on the mountain in the center of Kai. The rest of my ranged I put in line at a hill in the right back of the region. I have two units of Yari Samurai, which I position behind those.
Once again, in the beginning of the battle I start shooting the Hojo. They move too slow and don't use their archers, I shoot dozens of them. When they get up the hill they start firing and I move back to the rest of my army.
This time, the enemy's timing is good. The two armies approach me at the same time and I am outnumbered. I do destroy and rout some of the enemy units, but when I charge down my Yari Samurai, I am still outnumbered. To my luck, the Uesugi general starts routing at the very same moment. Then the entire Uesugi army routs, and I start firing the Hojo. The Hojo rout soon too, and with a fast move of my Yari Samurai I block the way. Not many of them survive and I chase them with my Cavalry archers, and Nobushige. The Hojo Clan is totally destroyed, and the Uesugi didn't achieve much either.
I win. Killed 573. Lost 131. Four units gain Honour +1. One unit gains +2 Honour. An important and luckily great victory.
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***************Attack on Sagami*****************
Meanwhile, Shingen leads the attack on Sagami, with 480 Men on his side against 455. An important battle, as Sagami is a rich region.
I put my archers in line, and my Yari Samurai in a line behind them. Though Shingen is one of the archers, I'm going to skirmish.
When the battle starts I see the Hojo spread their army over the back of Sagami, and I start moving towards it. I outnumber his units one by one, while totally destroying them with Archer fire. The rest of his units sees it's hopeless, and starts routing. I keep firing but the major part of his army survives.
I win, Killed 142, Lost 5. An Important victory, as the Posession of Sagami is good for my economy.
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With the conquering of Sagami, I gain some money. When I also destroy the buildings, I have a total of 1531 Koku now.
I start building a bigger castle in Kai.
I start building an Archer Dojo in Shinano.
I train 60 No-Dachi Samurai in Kai. I'll run out of Koku right away, but it's already Autumn so that's no problem.
Winter 1545
1041 Koku :)
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I train 60 Samurai Archers in Kai. I also train 60 Yari Samurai in Aki, which will go to the east too.
The Hojo clan is defeated. In Izu their army is very tiny, and his last men in the Sagami castle will soon have no food left and die too.
Meanwhile, the Oda is fighting with the rebels again, and he's not very strong anymore. That's only good news.
After the Defeat of the Hojo clan, I'll start invading the Uesugi lands, and become the strongest clan there is. The Shogunate will be a Takeda one...
Spring 1545
741 Koku :)
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The Archers Dojo in Shinano is ready. Good, now I start building a Yari Dojo there.
A loyalistic revolt appears in Izu. Samurai and Ashigaru who support the Takeda Clan, has risen against their new master, the Hojo lord. I am very greatful to the Rebels, and help them by sending more units from Sagami and Kai.
I put tax up to 90%.
I train 60 Yari Samurai in Kai. My army is now bigger then Uesugi's.
NodachiSam
10-01-2005, 02:16
I'm impressed by your generalship :charge: There is a reason I always would lose to you in mp, ~:cheers:
Thanks for the reply fellow-taisho Nodachisam :bow:
I'm impressed by your generalship. There is a reason I always would lose to you in mp
Thanks... But I doubt I'm much better then you... Multiplayer and Singleplayer and rather different. In Multiplayer I'm not one of the best, but in Singleplayer I defeat the AI at expert rather easily.
Well if this thread isn't really helpful please ask me things about generalship... I don't mind passing on what others have learned me... I you ever decide to play MP I'd like to help you improve.. I'm sure you wouldn't lose always after the first battles. ~:)
:bow:
47Ronin Drisos
ps: I tried to write the last year or two more like a story... do you like it? I hope I find some time to continue next week
NodachiSam
10-03-2005, 05:18
I like the narrative style, it reminds me of Olaf the Brave's russian camp in MTW mainhall. Pictures would be great too. You can make tag files into jpeg with irfanview and put them online with photobucket. They are a great host.~:cheers: Only if you have the time and endurance though, hehe.~:cheers:
Yeah I shall try to do some battle pics sometime too~:) I have done that before.. but mostly during a campaign I forget to.. too busy winning against the enemy ~;)
thanks for the battles saturday m8!! was fun~:) hope to see you in mp sometime soon again:bow:
No more compaign updates?
Sorry NeonGod...
Lately I've not found much free time in which I was not playing stw mp... so I got few chance to play sp. I did, but as you know I created that other thread instead on continuing here. Thanks for asking for it.. now I know there's some people who read this and like it I'll try harder to update soon ~:)
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It's all good. You don't need to play SP if you'd rather not. It was kind of enlightening, though - I picked up a few ideas that I never used and I guess that's why I still struggle with STW's campaign.
Good to hear ~:cool: Any questions on campaigns or whatever else in shogun just ask me... I'm not an expert but I might be able to help with some things ~;)
Summer 1545
341 Koku
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*****************Second attack on Izu********************
Our samurais are on their way to the defeat of the Hojo clan. Their Daimyo has only the protection of 10 heavy armoured mounted samurai. The local people who are revolting have got reinforcements which were sent by Takeda Shingen. The 11 enemies are skilled and heavily armoured so our great general must try to keep losses to a minimum.
At the start of the battle, Shingen and the other Yumi samurai march at the front, towards the Hojo leader. After a while they can target him and 5 of his guards get shot. Then he moves away to the southeast corner of Izu, to be chased by the takeda Yari units. After a long period of running after the enemy, the Takeda Yari block all ways out of the southeast corner and Hojo can't avoid engagement. Then he engages with one of the units, but he has no chance to win. He quickly gets attacked from the back and loses all his leftover guards. The Daimyo himself keep up the fight quite long and kills several samurai, but he can't escape and is eliminated.
We got back our loyal region Izu, and permanently defeated the Hojo clan. We killed all 11 but we lost 18 men.
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While their leader gets killed quite a distance to the west of them, Hojo's fatigued army in the Sagami Castle is defeated. The traitors got what they deserved! Now there's 4 enemies left for us; Shimazu, Imagawa, Oda and Uesugi.
With the reconquering of Izu our funds are increased to 466 Koku. Nobutora sets the taxes to 100%, as our people seem to be loyal enough.
60 Men of yari cavalry are trained in Kai, because Shingen wants some cavalry for the soon-to-come attack on the Musashi region. Musashi is weakly defended and will increase our income greatly.
Troops from Aki arrive in the eastern part of the Takeda lands meanwhile.
Autumn 1545
91 Koku :(
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The Daimyo's son Shingen is launching a big attack on Musashi. He bring an army of 655 Samurais. Three units of Yumi Samurai, 4 units of Yari Samurai, 60 No-Dachi Samurai, 120 Yari Ashigaru and 55 Yari Cavalrists. The enemy army is quite smaller, and has a two-star general.
Though our defences are good, we fear an attack by the Oda Lord. Their armies are big and they don't seem to do anything with them.
It's still Takeda versus four other clans, we hope that they attack eachother sometime so we get a bit rest.
Winter 1546
1572 Koku :D Money is rolling in
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******************The big attack on Musashi********************
Takeda Shingen leads this attack on the rich lands of Musashi, he brings an army of 655 Men, exsiting from 240 Yari Samurai, 180 Yumi Samurai, 120 Yari Ashigaru, 60 No-dachi Samurai and 55 Yari Cavalry. The enemy is an Uesugi army, which has 439 Warriors and is led by a 2-star general. It's coming out as victor on a river attack but we count on our superior melee infantry.
At the start of battle, Shingen moves two units of Yumi Samurai to the coastline of the river, on at each side of the bridge. He places his own unit right behind the bridge but at certain distance, and his melee is close to him, waiting cross the bridge. First go the 120 Yari Ashigaru and 60 Yari Samurai, all with honour 3. But they get totally shot down and only the Samurai engage with incoming enemy Yari's, while Shingen's bows are making many victims. Ranged fire kills many enemies but even after our Lord sent more units past the bridge all of them flee away. Luckily they rally and team up with the other melee units for a second attack, instead of going home and losing their honour. Unfortunately, the second attack doesn't have much better results then the first. Only few units engage, to rout shortly after it. After this engagment the Uesugi think they can finish it and target our Yumi Samurai after a short move forward, but fortunately our firepower is superior and we kill much. After a short period of this, Shingen starts to run out of arrows and sends the Yumi Samurai and the rallied cavalry to cross the bridge in one last attempt. This time his men don't rout, and the Yari Cavalry engage with the enemy general. After a short period his general's unit is almost destroyed, and the enemies run away suddenly. After that our Yari Cavalry makes the result a little less bad, by killing many in the chase.
I win, but the results aren't good. We bring with us 384 enemy heads, but the blood of 439 fallen Takeda warriors has turned the Musashi river red. This is a big loss, but at least we now have Musashi.
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With the conquering of Musashi and the destroying of the buildings I gain much Koku, which makes the total to 2547 Koku! Meanwhile the third degree of a castle is reached in Kai, and I start building a famous Swordsmith there. With the money gained in Shinano, I build a Yari Dojo in Shinano, a famous Yari Dojo in Aki and I train 60 Buddist Warrior Monks. In Musashi I have a harbor and 40% improved farmlands, and I'm building the same in Sagami, to increase my income even more. The Uesugi have some men left in the Edo castle of Musashi and we guess they have about 480 Samurai in Kozuke and Shimosa, so they're still kind of strong and we must be prepared for a contra-attack maybe.
Spring 1546
597 Koku :s
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I still have some Koku left, so I train 60 more Yari cavalry in Kai. They will be useful in the war with the Uesugi Yumi Samurai.
With Aki, Mikawa, Shinano, Sagami and big armies in those I have very strong defenline now. But to become Shogun I'll need to attack so I'll need to abandon those later on.
The Takeda Family:
Nobutora**** 53 years old
Shingen****** 25 years old
Nobushige** 18 years old
Nobukado - 10 years old
Katsuyori - 0 years old
Hooray, more updates. That bridge battle sounded intense. Is there really no good way to cross a bridge?
It was quite intense indeed... in fact I pretty much messed it up. Normally I get better results because I use my hamamoto to cross the bridge and get their inf in my archers range. I repeat that till I shoot about all his inf and then rout them all with melee cavalry.:charge: ~:)
~:cheers:
Something tells me I'd botch that up badly if I tried it. What about naginata troops?
Togakure
10-27-2005, 23:04
Winning a bridge battle against the AI can be accomplished very easily if you use this tactic. Take 6-8 archers, 2 ashigaru, and the rest Yari samurai (at least 6). If you choose to take 6 archers instead of 8, take 2 melee cav (yari or nag; heavy are too slow). Line archers up along the bank, each unit 2 rows deep (if you don't have room, arrange them as you can, as close to the edge as possible). Shape your spear units in such a way that they can march across the bridge easily (3-4 columns wide). Keep your cav back until the end of the battle, and shape them in coulmns 2-3 wide to move across the bridge (reshape once you cross).
Then, use your ashigaru first, marching them across the bridge until the enemy archers/gunners start firing. Then run them forward. When the enemy infantry moves forward to attack them, time it just right and pull them back across the bridge to your side, leading the attacking infantry (and cavalry, if any) into your archers' fire. Do not let your archers fire at will; manually choose your firing times to maximize enemy casualties. Once your ashi get back across (you will lose a lot at first, but they are ashi soo ...), let that unit rest and use the next one and repeat. Then use your Yaris, one at a time, and repeat. If the enemy cav charge, do the same thing, but if they come across the bridge, turn your spearmen around and bottle them up in the middle of it, and slaughter them.
When it is obvious that their infantry and cav are decimated, lead your entire remaining army over the bridge. If you opted to take cav, you can race them across (avoiding spears of course) and move them to either flank of the enemy. When the rest of your army infantry comes screaming over the bridge (melee first, then archers), time it right and send the cav after the archers/gunners on the flanks, from both sides at once. As long as you've decimated the enemy infantry and cav with your ranged units using the bait tactic, you will likely route the enemy easily. Then just stay on their butts and chase them off the field.
You will lose a lot of spearmen, so be sure to have some in reserve as replacements in a neighboring province, to move into and hold the province you've just taken on the next turn. If you manage things right, you shouldn't lose many archers or cav in the battle.
A classic small-scale battle like this takes place in Shimosa if you are Uesugi attacking Hojo very early in the game (turn 3, Sengoku Jidai--Macrogoal: eliminate Hojo; microgoal: eliminate Hojo capital, main troop production).
I think No Dachi and monks are a liability in a bridge battle, for obvious reasons. My advice is, don't use them. Naginata Infantry work ok but are slow and expensive and tire fast because of their heavy armor. They also have low base morale. Ninja work great at protecting your side of the bridge from any chasers that might make it across. Same with Kensai. But I avoid using them--particularly kensai, to cross over until the end, cuz they tend to get shot, particularly if the enemy has guns.
I always fight bridge battles myself (never autoresolve in SP), and win them 98% of the time. If I lose, it's usually because the enemy had a huge defending army and I wasn't able to attrition the cav and infantry enough with my ranged units before crossing the bridge.
In small bridge battles you can do great things with all cav, if you are fast and get across the bridge before taking too many casualties from ranged fire. Use yari, nag and cav archers to bracket the enemy position from either side, then use push/pull/push/pull until they route, then ride them down. I do this in the very beginning of the Takeda campaign, attacking the Hojo in Musashi on the first turn. It's delicate, but fun.
Thanks Toga for the details advice on this kind of battle ~:)
I'm quite sure your method will work all the time... but both have small armies I think I'll hold on to using my daimyo as bait ~:) He simply never dies in archer fire. This way he runs out of ammo and you can shoot his infantry.~:)
I lost (too) much men in that battle... but at least I have Musashi now >> +1000 Koku bonus and about 1000 a year too~:)
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Togakure
10-28-2005, 19:35
Thanks Toga for the details advice on this kind of battle ~:)
I'm quite sure your method will work all the time... but both have small armies I think I'll hold on to using my daimyo as bait ~:) He simply never dies in archer fire. This way he runs out of ammo and you can shoot his infantry.~:)
I lost (too) much men in that battle... but at least I have Musashi now >> +1000 Koku bonus and about 1000 a year too~:)
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Yep, I do this too, particularly with the Takeda during the first few years of a campaign, before I have amassed a large nuymber of troops.
Whatever works, I just thought I'd share this (relatively well known) tactic as someone further up the thread was asking about how to successfully approach a bridge battle.
Sasaki Kojiro
10-28-2005, 20:09
Yep, I do this too, particularly with the Takeda during the first few years of a campaign, before I have amassed a large nuymber of troops.
Whatever works, I just thought I'd share this (relatively well known) tactic as someone further up the thread was asking about how to successfully approach a bridge battle.
Armies of 16 archers are deadly in bridge assaults...you'll have enough arrows to kill the entire enemy army. For small scale battles all cav works really well. Those are my personal preferences anyway.
Togakure
10-29-2005, 00:45
How do you target the defending archers with an attacking army of all archers? Usually the AI archers stay out of range, even if you move to the edge of the river. Do you bait with archers instead of yari sams?
I use the yari sams because they're cheaper, 200 koku vs. 300 for an archer, and because they have better armor, so they attrition a bit slower when under fire. Their base morale is better too if I remember correctly. In a campaign I have to be koku-conscious until I get my economy roaring, and even then, I tend to be frugal.
After playing MP for a while I developed better cav skills, and then I really enjoyed taking all cav to smaller bridge battles. I'd string out a unit in a long line, run them over the bridge, and then turn to one side immediately and run out of range. Usually a unit or two of infantry would pursue them, and then I'd repeat the process with another cav unit, except I'd run them to the opposite flank once they crossed the bridge. Once all my cav were on the defender's side of the bridge, I'd surround and skirmish with cav archers, bait, flank, and do hit and runs until the enemy fled. Then I'd mow them down.
If the defending enemy has cav, then things are a bit more complicated.
Sasaki Kojiro
10-29-2005, 03:13
How do you target the defending archers with an attacking army of all archers? Usually the AI archers stay out of range, even if you move to the edge of the river. Do you bait with archers instead of yari sams?
Yeah you send a unit of archers across...the units sent at it will be annihilated very quickly, after a few have routed the rest are more likely to.
After playing MP for a while I developed better cav skills, and then I really enjoyed taking all cav to smaller bridge battles. I'd string out a unit in a long line, run them over the bridge, and then turn to one side immediately and run out of range. Usually a unit or two of infantry would pursue them, and then I'd repeat the process with another cav unit, except I'd run them to the opposite flank once they crossed the bridge. Once all my cav were on the defender's side of the bridge, I'd surround and skirmish with cav archers, bait, flank, and do hit and runs until the enemy fled. Then I'd mow them down.
If the defending enemy has cav, then things are a bit more complicated.
Almost this tactik I have used before, I think. I remember crossing the bridge with my daimyo and quickly running to a side. Then mostly AI lost his concentration on the bridge and I won quite much easier then to just send infantry. I don't use this (or only rarely) anymore... probably because I got my daimyo killed once ~:joker:
It's been a while... but my savegame is still there! Continuing today! ~:)
Summer 1546
222 Koku
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The Yari Samurai Training place was finished in Shinano. Hopefully I can afford a Horse-riding Dojo soon, and start making some strong cavalry.
The famous Dojo for Yari training in Aki is finished.
The loyalty in my lands, even in Musashi and Sagami, is good. I hope to conquer another eastern region by the next spring or summer. But I've not yet decided where to strike this time. Uesugi Castle in Musashi is surrouded and is losing men.
Bad news - The Uesugi Daimyo has another mature heir, and I'm afraid that it's Kenshin. His skills as a Taisho are as good as Shingen's, and can make things more complicated in the war against the Uesugi.
In aki, 60 Yari Samurai are trained, in the new Dojo.
Herfst 1546
22 Koku :(
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The number of stars on the flag of a Uesugi general indicated that our fears became true. Kenshin is now under control of an Uesugi army.
Good thinking needs to be done before we can decide which region to attack next... Which will be of economic importance, which will be of strategic importace, which can we take and which can't we take, what is diplomatic correct?
Most likely Shingen will attack Shimosa or Kozuke. Just wait one more season.
A portugese ship was spotted in the Oda harbour in Owari. Soon they will pass by Totomi, Sagami and Musashi, and we'll have to make a choice.
Winter 1547
2416 Koku :D
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We are happy to see the famous Swordsmith in Kai finished, and orders are given to build a legendary Yumi Dojo.
While we had a normal harvest, still we gained quite some Koku this year, and things look good with such economy by the side of this clan.
In Shinano, the Cavalry Dojo is started... Finally!
Some military action this turn:
60 Yumi Samurai trained in Aki.
120 Samurai are shipped from Aki to Musashi.
60 No-Dachi Samurai trained in Kai.
60 Yari Samurai trained in Shinano.
Takeda Shingen launches an attack on Kozuke:
520 Attacking Samurai, led by the 6-star general.
of which, 180 Yumi Samurai, 240 Yari Samurai.
60 Yari Cavalry, and 60 Warrior Monks.
Spring 1547
816 Koku :s
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Suddenly, in the west, Rebels attacked Aki. But appearantly that extra 60 Yumi Samurai scared them away. They gave up.
In the east, Uesugi gave up as well, but I don't like that. It's easier to defeat Uesugi's army in Kozuke then to defeat it in Shimosa. One positive thing is that my Koku increased to 1666. :D Now let's get spending it.
The fields in Sagami have been improved. Now the 60% upgrade in Musashi is started.
In Aki, 120 Samurai are trained in the arts of firing a bow.
In Kai, 60 Yari Cavalrists are trained.
The Castle in Musashi has been conquered permanently now. But now a small Uesugi army is surrounded in the castle in Kozuke.
We hope that Kenshin attacks Kozuke from Mutsu, so we can eliminate him in a defence.
On the diplomatic side, things still look back. The four allied clans; Uesugi, Oda, Shimazu and Imagawa are at war with Takeda, or at least have hostile plans towards us.
Luckily, only the Oda and the Shimazu form a real threat. The Uesugi have only Mutsu and Shimosa left and should be defeated soon.
Summer 1547
541 Koku
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In Kai, the legendary Yumi Dojo is finished. Unfortunately, I have to wait until autumn so I can build a new Dojo. But I do train 60 Yari Samurai, which will be used for attacking another Uesugi region.
Some good news, Oda is constantly at war with Rebels and Ronin and seem to become weaker by the day. I don't have to send more troops to Mikawa and Shinano, but I can concentrate on destroying the Uesugi.
I am not yet sure, but I'm considering attacking Shimosa. Uesugi Tomooki is holding that region, and it has a castle with a few Dojo's. Attacking will deliver me some Koku right away, but also on long-term.
Autumn 1547
41 Koku :(
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The Cavalry Dojo is finished in Shinano. Hopefully I can get enough Koku to use it soon.
This season the R&R launched a big attack on the Oda Clan in Owari. But they did not manage to establish a victory on the bridge crossing. The Oda did loose a part of their army though, and it is good to see that they are kept busy, while we conquer the East.
I got the message that my Clan is the richest of entire Japan. :D When I manage to conquer rich regions like Mutsu, Hitachi, Shimosa, Dewa and Echigo as well, my economy will be so much stronger then that of the other Clans that we will most likely be able to deliver the next shogun's of Japan.
Takeda Shingen is attacking Shimosa! It will be a very tough battle, because it's a bridge crossing. But Shingen's army counts 660 men and Tomooki's only 594, and his is better-trained.
The taxes are set to 90%, because this attack makes it impossible to maintain large armies in Kozuke and Musashi.
Winter 1548
2912 Koku :)
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**********The attack on the region of Musashi*********
On the banks of the river in Shimosa two armies are preparing for battle. Uesugi Tomooki has brought his Yumi and Yari Samurai to defend the bridge against the legendary strategist Takeda Shingen. Shingen has brought 180 Samurai Archers, 240 Yari Samurai, 60 No-Dachi Samurai, 120 Yari Cavalry and
60 Warrior Monks. The Uesugi's army is cut loose from the rest of their clan's armies and if they loose here they will all die, including the Daimyo. The Takeda army attacks on a Sunny day, and moves their archers to the river bank next to both sides of the bridge. The first men to cross the bridge are two groups of Yari Samurai. They lay under heavy fire of Uesugi arrows, and their army does not prevent them from loosing many men. When they reach the other side of the river Uesugi infantry quickly moves in and the melee battle starts. Right then, Shingen sends in the rest of the Yari
Samurai. From both sides of the river arrows are shot at the fighting men at the bridge, and soon there are only very few men fighting left. On both sides a few men flee away and both parties send in the last infantry they have. Tomooki only has some archers left behind, and Shingen is only accompanied by the Yari Cavalry. Together with them, he crossed the bridge
as the last infantry breaks and flees. Their spears give them advantage against the enemy Yumi Samurai and their Daimyo's Hamamoto, and the battle is soon ends. The remained Uesugi Samurai are chased down, or manage to flee
to their castle.
Victory! :) Killed 344, Lost 354. :(
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With this victory the Clan's Koku is increased to 3362. :D
Low loyalty in Shimosa makes it necessesary to drop taxes to 75%. Also, troops are moved from Shinano to Musashi, and from Musashi to Shimosa.
Tomooki has been killed in the battle, so Kenshin takes over control of the clan. He only controls the region of Mutsu, and Uesugi armies in Kozuke and Shimosa castle's are surrounden by us.
In Kai a the construction of a Golden Palace is started, and 60 Yumi Samurai are trained.
In Sagami the 60% field upgrade is started.
In Shinano a Palace is built and 60 Yari Cavalry are trained.
The Portuese landed in Izu, but I immediately rejected their offer.
Spring 1548
737 Koku
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The Japanese emperor claims to be supporting the Oda Clan, after they conquered Yamamoto. Nobutora suspects the Ashigaru dogs to just threaten to kill him if he didn't support them. But it will not help, we will keep at war with the Oda.
The Oda became Christian. We hope that they keep it to themselves, and even better, that the Buddist people will revolt there and conquer their lands.
In Shinano 60 (High-Honour) Yari Cavalrists are trained, and in Kai 60 Yumi Samurai.
The loyalty is getting better again, due to quick action against it. :)
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