is there a better game

[clayton ballentine]

is there a better game other than rome total war explain your answer

[clayton ballentine]

i think no because total war games are AWSOME!!!!!!!!!

[mfberg]

I play in a large scale game every day, its not better, but it pays the bills. Wait thats reality, not a game, well time to rethink reality.

mfberg

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yes....Medieval: Total War, Viking INvasion, and Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, as some examples.

[tibilicus]

I voted yes because there must be one game out there better than RTW.

[Mikeus Caesar]

I vote yes, but before i explain why, can i ask you to stop spamming the forums!! It's incredibly annoying!! Anyway, i find that a good game is MTW. Much better than RTW, as it is like playing chess, only on a larger scale.

[Craterus]

Yes, there is a better game. It's called FIREBALL! I prefer playing basketball to RTW too. I wouldn't say MTW OR STW is as good as RTW, but that's my opinion. The general consensus here at the Guild is that MTW is better than RTW.

[tibilicus]

Actually only a few gsames are better. But some games are more chalenging.

[Mongoose]

Yeah, the constant spamming is too much, please stop.


If you don't, the mongooses will be unleashed :charge:

and yes, there are better games ~:)

[xemitg]

I voted no... What game is better right now?

[Lord Dazed & Confused]

Cause I just can't stop playing TW no matter what new games I get after a few days I get board with them and its back to TW and I'm talking since STW came out.

[Colovion]

yes:

MTW

[[seminoles]shadow]

let me think... nope

[Romeus Petrus]

My vote goes to Warcraft III, and all its XPs. A lot more balanced than TW.

[Colovion]

My vote goes to Warcraft III, and all its XPs. A lot more balanced than TW.

thing is, this poll should only really be made once RTW is "finished" as in with all XPs as well as any patches afterwards

at the moment MTW looks much better than RTW - unfortunately it seems as if this genre does not look kindly on having features not totally tested or flushed out as there are hidden ramnifications for every mistake and oversight. Once these are ironed out and we have the EB mod, I think that RTW will by far outstrip MTW in some aspects. However, in other aspects MTW has a kind of allure which is difficult to explain. Something about the many historical events (such as the incredibly impacting Mongol invasion), the many eras you 'evolve' through and a decent balance between the factions and vast differences in play styles between each faction - not just each region; something about marrying off daughters to other nations (how I would love to have the ability to have a Family Tree with othier Royal Families branching in and out of it through the centuries)... the added religious themes with the Crusades and Jihads was a nice touch as well as being able to ransom off troops captured after the rout + ransoming off the Generals or Kings you capture... or killing them all!

RTW has some great visuals - have some things which have a good amount of new work (the Campaign map) but in some ways I don't think it'll ever play in quite an in depth and personal way which MTW has.

[Azi Tohak]

In my opinion that is a silly question. Of course there are better games. From my point of view. Better non-idiot RTS like RTW? Sure, RTR ~;) springs to mind, but also I have always loved STW too.

I think the question needs to be phrased better myself.

Other games I would put as 'better', Fire Emblem (the GBA one here in the states), FF VI, VII, Chrono Trigger (can you see the RPG bent?), M1 Tank Platoon....

But as far as RTS go, the Total War series is the 'best' I can think of.

Azi

[Quietus]

I voted no... What game is better right now?
Same, I voted no. There is not a single game better out there or else people will be playing that instead of this. ~:)

[Productivity]

Yes. As evidenced by the fact that I haven't played R:TW for about three months now.

[hoof]

My vote goes to Warcraft III, and all its XPs. A lot more balanced than TW.

The last thing I want is for the game to be balanced. Real life isn't balanced, and neither were the historical factions that RTW is based on. I'm interested in a reasonable facsimile of the Roman times, at least on the battlefield, and that means having the various unit types reflecting their historical counterparts.

If the romans have the best infantry, so be it. If the Parthian Horse Archers are virtually unstoppable vs non-cavalry armies, then so be it. If the Carthaginian infantry blew chunks compared to Roman infantry historically, then I want them to in this game.

The fun for me is learning the units strengths and weaknesses and figuring out how to win with what I have in a particular situation. Balance makes me ask "what's the point?". When two sides are balanced by design, I no longer have the question of which side has an advantage, because neither side does.

There's a saying I heard once: When you're body is in complete balance, that means you have died and are now a corpse.

[Shambles]

Id say Every game iv ever played is better than rome,
I hate the thing and uninstalled it.

[Shambles]

The fun for me is learning the units strengths and weaknesses and figuring out how to win with what I have in a particular situation. Balance makes me ask "what's the point?". When two sides are balanced by design, I no longer have the question of which side has an advantage, because neither side does.




When it come to rome total war,
All u haft to do is have a lot of cav archers,
and some infantry
And watch the ai Constantly march up to your army geting pelted with arrows
Then turn back and get shot in the back by arrow fire
then watch them do the same again,
March up to u decide not to then turn back untill there almost all dead,
Then send in the infantry.

Thats without mentioning that the AI dosent even relize when it has a height advantage, Or a great possition.

the Game sux

Better games...

Pong
pack man
frogger
Any text based RPG
Final fantasy sereise that includes the 1st ones
Super mario brothers All of them Even SMB 2
Punchout
Super punchout
gun smoke
rygar
doom 1 2 and 3
hexen 1
Blood
half life.
delta force serize
Morrowind
Gothic
Mafia
Grand theft auto serize
STW
MTW
Axes and alies
Age of empires
Empire earth
the sims
Sim golf.
splinter cell,
max payne.

Even free games like
Aces high
or
carom 3d
Even though carom 3d is Full of bugs and glitches With scoring system totaly messed up, And the physics engine being slightly out,
It still Easily out classes rome tw

I could just go on and on.
ShambleS
:bow:

[Shadow]

I voted yes cause I feel that all the total war series were great and I can stop playing it. ~D

[drone]

Shambles, I think you forgot Tetris....

[SpencerH]

I was gonna say too many to list but that wouldnt be true. RTR is not in my personal top 10 though.

1)CIV
2)STW

1 and 2 are not necessarily the best games now of course but in a historical perspective they are seminal games.

3)SMAC-SMACX
4)MTW
5)AoE2
6)CIV2
7)WC3
8)CIV3
9)SM Gettysburg
10)EU2

6-10 are fairly similar in score for me

[Dyonisius]

You Guys are really funny!!!

Saying Warcraft3, AoE2 and all those crappy games are a better, wc3/AoE2 may be more balanced but they have not the complexity of RTW or its graphics-engine or a strategic map. Not mentioning the historical part it took to research.

If it was not for the loadgame "feature"/failure than RTW would be the best nowadays IMO.
And I have played a lot of games.

~:cheers:

[Viking]

No. Otherwise I wouldn`t be hanging around at these forums.

[Big_John]

yes, there are many hundreds of games better than the dreadful rtw, imo.

[Dyonisius]

Several games better than RTW that I can name:

MTW
Imperial Glory
Romance of the Three Kindgoms IX
Neverwinter Nights
Axis & Allies

Now, if you want better than Medieval: Total War it's probably a (much) smaller list:

Imperial Glory (a matter of taste.. I think this game's the best thing since sliced bread and porn)
Axis & Allies


Imperial Glory looks decent, but it seems like it is heavily inspired on MTW & RTW, also it seems to have less units capacity. There are only 50 maps and 5 nations, RtW has more.

And since it is only recently in store who knows if it doesn't has a nasty bug like the save/load thing.

Axis & Allies I dont know, I found the Close Combat serries pretty good as for a WW2 game, but that are just obsolete games.

As for porn it depends HOW and IF you are paying for it ~:cool:

~:cheers:

[Navaros]

kind of an odd question...it's difficult to compare games of all stripes to one specific game (ie: R: TW)

what is better when comparing games across all genres is destined to be highly subjective

that said, i would say yes there are many better games than the TW game. but the question is so abstract that it's hard to qualify that statement with concrete tangibles

[doc_bean]

Not mentioning the historical part it took to research.


This made me laugh ~D

[Drisos]

yes, STW. ~:)

If you'd ask 'better games then TW' I'd say no. But within TW, S is the best ~D

[Dyonisius]

This made me laugh ~D

Alright I understand,

RTW isn't that accurate, but still for the average person it can be a big task if you aren't that historical oriented, in comparison to fantasy games.

e.g. I myself didn't know that factions called Pontus and Selucia existed.

~:cheers:

[avatar]

Strategy game = no.

But when I am not a general = yes Halo 2 sometimes it is nice to be the soldier.

[Kagemusha]

yes, STW. ~:)

If you'd ask 'better games then TW' I'd say no. But within TW, S is the best ~D


I agree what Drisos says ~:cheers:

[KRALLODHRIB]

I fancy that this question will be answered defferently by the same person depending on mood, etc. Still, overall there is no real equivalent to RTW. Warcraft and Doom III (however attractive) are jokes as far as replayability IMO. Warcraft in particular is insanely primitive, comparatively speaking.

Neverwinter is perhaps somwhere near as fun as RTW (though a different genre).

BTW, clayton ballentine, I found your signature more interesting than your query/poll.

What exactly does this mean?

"i am almost an historian"

Just curious.

[the tokai]

Knights and merchants. I just digged that one up from under a huge pile of manuals and installed it again and even though the game is very old it still rules. For it's time it was simply amazing and even now the game is still pretty good an lot's of fun.